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Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Mar 27, 2018 12:53:34 GMT 10
Inspired by a thread from inthe00s.
Musically, the 90s overall was more sophisticated and way less cheesy than the 80s, and perhaps the 00s as well. As a matter of fact, out of all 7 of the modern decades (50s-10s), musically, the 90s would be the 2nd least cheesy decade, with the 70s being the very least cheesy.
That being said though, there's still no denying that the bordering years of the 90s, 1990 and 1999, are extremely cheesy. In 1990, hair metal was still popular, and you had a ton of dance hits such as "U Can't Touch This", "Ice Ice Baby", and "Humpty Dance" released in that year. 1999 on the other hand was the apex of the Y2K teen pop movement, you had Britney, Christina, and Backstreet Boys, even outside of that you had cheesy stuff from Sugar Ray, TLC, and Smash Mouth.
The sophistication and serious tone of 90s music comes from the central years of the 90s, 1994 and 1995. Those are the years that gave us stuff like this;
So, overall, when it comes to the 90s, the cheesiest years are the border years (1990 and 1999), while the most sophisticated ones are the central years (1994 and 1995) I'm not sure if this would be an in-and-out transition, as 1991-1993 and 1996-1998 may not follow the transition accordingly; you could make the case for 1993 being cheesier than 1992, or 1997 being cheesier than 1998, but nonetheless, the border years are the cheesiest, while the central years are the most sophisticated.
Why do you think this is so? One probable reason could be due for need of good times when things are down or uncertain. In 1990, you had a recession, and in 1999, you had the Y2K fears, so perhaps fun poppy songs were needed to keep spirits high, whereas in 1994 and 1995 when things were mostly okay, it wasn't needed. What do you guys think of this?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 27, 2018 16:03:24 GMT 10
There are a number of factors which contributed to the '90s panning out the way they did. Generally speaking, the '90s were a backlash against the materialistic, flashy 1980s. People (and most notably, Generation X) were wanting something more authentic and down to earth. Grunge/Alternative-rock and Gangsta-Rap filled that void, which is why they were so influential and significant during the decade's zeitgeist.
While I agree that Y2K did play a role in the fun, upbeat nature of songs from the Late '90s, i'm not sure if it was to do with Y2K fears, to be honest. Rather, I think people's excitement and anticipation for the new millennium was the main reason as to why pop culture became cheesier during the Late '90s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 11, 2018 23:38:01 GMT 10
I've thought about this in the past, but in a way, it's strange that the 2000s weren't a backlash against the "down to earth", authentic '90s. Considering how culturally influential Grunge and Gangsta-Rap were, it's somewhat surprising that the 2000s generally weren't more upbeat and bubbly than they actually were.
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Post by longaotian on Apr 12, 2018 17:43:12 GMT 10
I've thought about this in the past, but in a way, it's strange that the 2000s weren't a backlash against the "down to earth", authentic '90s. Considering how culturally influential Grunge and Gangsta-Rap were, it's somewhat surprising that the 2000s generally weren't more upbeat and bubbly than they actually were. Yeah, especially considering it was also the peak of '80s nostalgia aswell, it is surprising that the 2000s weren't more upbeat...whereas the 2010s are. In fact, this is why I've come to think that the 90s & 2000s are the most similar decades in recent times. Obviously they weren't the same, but they share a lot more similarities than the decades before and after. For examples, the 80s received a big backlash in the 90s, but the same didn't occur during the 2000s. Also, the thread about how '90 & '99 were more upbeat and cheesy than the rest of the decade also applies to the 2000s, the cheesy teen pop of 2000 and Electropop of 2009 were quite different to the mid 2000s. Imo, music was also much more diverse in the 90s/00s than the 80s/10s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 12, 2018 17:57:18 GMT 10
Yeah, especially considering it was also the peak of '80s nostalgia aswell, it is surprising that the 2000s weren't more upbeat...whereas the 2010s are. In fact, this is why I've come to think that the 90s & 2000s are the most similar decades in recent times. Obviously they weren't the same, but they share a lot more similarities than the decades before and after. For examples, the 80s received a big backlash in the 90s, but the same didn't occur during the 2000s. Also, the thread about how '90 & '99 were more upbeat and cheesy than the rest of the decade also applies to the 2000s, the cheesy teen pop of 2000 and Electropop of 2009 were quite different to the mid 2000s. Imo, music was also much more diverse in the 90s/00s than the 80s/10s. Yep, I completely agree with you. I think the similarities between the '90s and the 2000s are partly the reason why some people believe the 2000s had "no identity", even though that wasn't the case. I know this is a really generalised comment, but when you think about it, the 2000s were essentially just a glossier and more commercialised extension of the Late '90s. I actually think the 2000s have more in common with the '90s than they do with the 2010s.
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