|
Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Apr 17, 2018 9:10:13 GMT 10
Inspired by a thread from inthe00s;
One of the most defining music genres of the 00s is pop-punk, which derives from a skater counter culture. It first became popular in the mid-late '90s as part of the alt rock movement, with groups such as Green Day, Weezer, The Offspring, and Blink 182 at the forefront, and it was especially becoming popular in the Y2K Era with the success of the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games.
Emo started out in the mid '80s with hardcore punks in the Washington DC area wanting to expand the emotional range of their sound, and it had underground popularity in the '90s thanks large in part to Sunny Day Real Estate, but the emo sound didn't become mainstream until the summer of 2002, when Jimmy Eat World's "Bleed American" went platinum. But even then, that album was also a pop-punk album, and the sound of that album felt more skater than emo. In 2002-2004, pop-punk blew up in popularity after "Bleed American" went platinum, with bands such as Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Fountains of Wayne, Yellowcard, and Bowling For Soup, but even these bands all still felt more "skater" than "emo.
By around late 2004 or 2005 though is when the pop-punk sound really started to sound more goth, with bands such as Hawthorne Heights, My Chemical Romance, and Fall Out Boy becoming popular, and 2006 was easily the most goth year of the 00s for music, not only for emo, but also for alt rock acts like 30 Seconds to Mars, Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, and Evanescence.
What's your input on this?
SharksFan99 likes this
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
|
0 |
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 10:02:57 GMT 10
My Happy Ending by Avril Lavigne is more goth style.Same with Chuck by Sum 41, American Idiot by Green Day, Still Not Getting Any by Simple Plan, or Palm Trees and Power Lines by Sugar Cult etc. All these released in 2004
I'd say it started in 2003 with Blink-182 self-titled. It was a lot more sombre compared to Take Off Your Pants and Jacket from 2001. There were obviously goth/dark style rock in the early 2000s too, but 2004 is when I remember it taking off as an all-encompassing trend. Almost EVERY rocker dressed black in 2004.
astropoug likes this
|
|
|
Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 17, 2018 10:03:52 GMT 10
I know a lot of people pinpoint 2002 as being the year the Emo scene emerged into the mainstream, but speaking from my own perspective, I don't remember it becoming a movement until at least Early/Mid 2005. Jimmy Eat World's Bleed American only peaked at #54 on the ARIA album chart and the lead-single from the album, "The Middle", peaked at just #49 and stayed on the chart for one week.
|
|
|
Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Apr 17, 2018 10:22:15 GMT 10
My Happy Ending by Avril Lavigne is more goth style.Same with Chuck by Sum 41, American Idiot by Green Day, Still Not Getting Any by Simple Plan, or Palm Trees and Power Lines by Sugar Cult etc. All these released in 2004 I'd say it started in 2003 with Blink-182 self-titled. It was a lot more sombre compared to Take Off Your Pants and Jacket from 2001. There were obviously goth/dark style rock in the early 2000s too, but 2004 is when I remember it taking off as an all-encompassing trend. Almost EVERY rocker dressed black in 2004. Thanks for your input! Yeah, I could definitely see Blink 182's self-titled album as a good starting point, particularly though for the song "I Miss You" alone, the first verse in that song sung by Mark Hoppus especially gives off a gothic vibe right from the opening line, "Hello there, angel from my nightmare". I'd say 2004, the year the albums you aforementioned came out, and when "I Miss You" was released as a single, is a good starting point, but it still felt pretty transitional since you still had bands such as Yellowcard and Bowling For Soup, which still had a vibe to them that could pass for 2002. But by late 2004 though, it was definitely coming in full swing.
|
|
|
Post by longaotian on Apr 17, 2018 21:21:51 GMT 10
2004.
|
|
|
Post by al on Apr 18, 2018 14:46:21 GMT 10
I can't tell you exactly when it all converged, but I can say from my memory that 2004 and 2005 is when the Hot Topic gothic punk thing was at its most mainstream. I relate that with the release and popularity of Green Day's American Idiot album. Not to descredit the other popular bands, but these were the songs that brought people into that whole scene who otherwise would not have been. Prior to that, I remember skateboarding being quite popular in the early 00's, particularly beginning with the tekdek toys and Tony Hawk Pro Skater for PS1 and Nintendo 64 around 2000. I speculate that the similar clothing and hairstyles allowed for the meshing with goth/punk. By about 2007, when the mall goth look turned to emo/scene and clothing and music styles grew softer, more electronic, perhaps a bit Japanese inspired, I no longer remember skate culture in any way having an association. By the time I was in high school in 2009, skaters, rockers and emos had essentially all returned to their own respective groups.
Not to keep straying from the topic, but random note: Tony Hawk is turning 50. Aka Gen X is officially entering their 50's. This will be interesting.
RockyMountainExtreme likes this
|
|