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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 22, 2018 13:44:20 GMT 10
I remember briefly talking about this in another thread and I thought it would be an interesting idea for a topic. In retrospect, it's surprising that 2000s pop culture generally wasn't more flamboyant and upbeat than it actually was. The Y2K-Era was a very optimistic time for pop culture and considering the fact that the 2000s were the first decade of the 21st Century, it's strange that those social attitudes and pop culture characteristics didn't carry over to the rest of the decade. You would have thought that the 2000s would have been a backlash against the cynical, individualistic 1990s.
It just doesn't make much sense. Bands such as Creed and Nickelback were receiving a lot of criticism around the turn of the century and well into the decade, so why did post-grunge continue as a mainstream movement until as recently as 2010? Given the amount of criticism "post"-post grunge bands received, it's strange that the genre ultimately went on to define the 2000s, when it wouldn't have been unreasonable for it to have fallen out of favour sometime during the Early 2000s.
Another example is the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Some people may pinpoint 9/11 as being responsible for the overall dark and gloomy nature of 2000s pop culture, but I personally don't think 9/11 had too much of an influence on the trajectory of pop culture. It may have changed people's attitudes towards life, but it didn't have an immerse effect on music, movies or TV shows.
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Post by rainbow on Apr 22, 2018 15:35:47 GMT 10
I don't know. I personally thought the electropop music in the very late 2000's was upbeat, but then again I live in the United States so there were most likely different songs charting back then.
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Post by Telso on Apr 22, 2018 21:38:16 GMT 10
It wasn't? Music-wise, from the Crunk club songs a la Yeah, to the sugary pop anthems like Crazy in Love, Umbrella, Poker Face and the light and fluffy R&B songs like Try Again and We Belong Together and some very popular hard-hitting euro-extasy Trance acts popular during the whole decade like Cascade, 2000s music was fairly upbeat.
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Post by John Titor on Aug 26, 2018 5:28:58 GMT 10
Early 2000s culture was upbeat, even after 9/11 the alt rock, rap songs and pop was still upbeat
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Post by mikeyraven99 on Sept 12, 2018 2:46:57 GMT 10
Generally, the 2000s weren't that cynical to me, in terms of pop culture. Especially after the 9/11 attacks. Sure, it brought in a drastic change in terms of people's views, but it didn't change a lot in terms of movies, music, and TV shows. There were some albums that did mention 9/11 either literally or metaphorically such as Disturbed's Believe, Soulfly's 3, and Evanescence's Fallen. But it didn't affect a lot of people's lives. Overall, the decade was just in-between in terms of being upbeat.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 28, 2018 2:33:18 GMT 10
The early 2000s were very upbeat even after 9/11
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Post by Telso on Oct 9, 2018 8:09:46 GMT 10
The early 2000s were very upbeat even after 9/11 Why post the exact same thing you did earlier
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Post by John Titor on Oct 10, 2018 6:15:03 GMT 10
The early 2000s were very upbeat even after 9/11 Why post the exact same thing you did earlier 
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Post by John Titor on Nov 6, 2020 3:08:44 GMT 10
Maybe cuz of the Iraq War & emo beginning in 2003 2000 - Summer 2001 was upbeat and to an extent 2008 was (minus the recesison) There was upbeat music in the mid 2000s tho but it was few and far between
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Post by slashpop on Nov 6, 2020 3:13:08 GMT 10
Maybe cuz of the Iraq War & emo beginning in 2003 2000 - Summer 2001 was upbeat and to an extent 2008 was (minus the recesison) There was upbeat music in the mid 2000s tho but it was few and far between Looking back I think 2000-2001 was kinda manufactured or corny upbeat imo.. I felt like 2002 was a bit upbeat no? 2009 a bit maybe, even late 07 a bit actually...
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Post by slashpop on Nov 6, 2020 6:52:00 GMT 10
Actually the more I think about it, the 2000s pop culture as whole comes across as having an upbeat attitude regardless of events when compared to most of the 90s. There is was a lot more optimistic energy than the 90s for sure.
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Post by ItsMichael on Nov 6, 2020 10:02:20 GMT 10
I think we can all agree that 9/11 didn't change the 2000s culture entirely. I see the early 2000s and the late 2000s being upbeat in terms of pop culture and music wise especially with electropop getting into it's core around 2008. The mid 2000s though... It was a little bit dark because of the Iraq War and the War of terror starting to get its background, but those are just two things. As far as pop culture with the emo fad coming out that year, I personally do not find that appealing looking back during that time. Still I have nothing against the mid 2000s, but it would be my least favorite era of the 2000s compared to the other two.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 6, 2020 10:09:01 GMT 10
I think we can all agree that 9/11 didn't change the 2000s culture entirely. I see the early 2000s and the late 2000s being upbeat in terms of pop culture and music wise especially with electropop getting into it's core around 2008. The mid 2000s though... It was a little bit dark because of the Iraq War and the War of terror starting to get its background, but those are just two things. As far as pop culture with the emo fad coming out that year, I personally do not find that appealing looking back during that time. Still I have nothing against the mid 2000s, but it would be my least favorite era of the 2000s compared to the other two. Teen pop was dying out from Spring 2001 onward that is true it was going to change n o matter what happened
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 10:17:15 GMT 10
I remember briefly talking about this in another thread and I thought it would be an interesting idea for a topic. In retrospect, it's surprising that 2000s pop culture generally wasn't more flamboyant and upbeat than it actually was. The Y2K-Era was a very optimistic time for pop culture and considering the fact that the 2000s were the first decade of the 21st Century, it's strange that those social attitudes and pop culture characteristics didn't carry over to the rest of the decade. You would have thought that the 2000s would have been a backlash against the cynical, individualistic 1990s. It just doesn't make much sense. Bands such as Creed and Nickelback were receiving a lot of criticism around the turn of the century and well into the decade, so why did post-grunge continue as a mainstream movement until as recently as 2010? Given the amount of criticism "post"-post grunge bands received, it's strange that the genre ultimately went on to define the 2000s, when it wouldn't have been unreasonable for it to have fallen out of favour sometime during the Early 2000s. Another example is the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Some people may pinpoint 9/11 as being responsible for the overall dark and gloomy nature of 2000s pop culture, but I personally don't think 9/11 had too much of an influence on the trajectory of pop culture. It may have changed people's attitudes towards life, but it didn't have an immerse effect on music, movies or TV shows. 9/11 did have an effect on movies and TV shows. Note how many movies and shows during the 2000s dealt with topics such as terrorism, war, politics, and other topics related to current events. I don't think shows like 24 would have been as big if not for 9/11. As for music, there was already a shift towards a more urban sound to pop music in 1999 and 2000 and that accelerated in 2001 and 2002. Just listen to *NSync's albums in order to hear what I'm talking about. Bubblegum eras typically only last a few years when they happen and by 2001, the Y2K bubblegum sound had pretty much run it's course. I also don't think post-grunge defines the 2000s, though it was definitely a significant part of the musical palette during that decade. Overall though, I'd say the decade in music was defined by the mainstreaming of hip-hop led by Eminem during the first half of the decade and then ringtone/snap rap during the second half.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 6, 2020 11:27:42 GMT 10
I remember briefly talking about this in another thread and I thought it would be an interesting idea for a topic. In retrospect, it's surprising that 2000s pop culture generally wasn't more flamboyant and upbeat than it actually was. The Y2K-Era was a very optimistic time for pop culture and considering the fact that the 2000s were the first decade of the 21st Century, it's strange that those social attitudes and pop culture characteristics didn't carry over to the rest of the decade. You would have thought that the 2000s would have been a backlash against the cynical, individualistic 1990s. It just doesn't make much sense. Bands such as Creed and Nickelback were receiving a lot of criticism around the turn of the century and well into the decade, so why did post-grunge continue as a mainstream movement until as recently as 2010? Given the amount of criticism "post"-post grunge bands received, it's strange that the genre ultimately went on to define the 2000s, when it wouldn't have been unreasonable for it to have fallen out of favour sometime during the Early 2000s. Another example is the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Some people may pinpoint 9/11 as being responsible for the overall dark and gloomy nature of 2000s pop culture, but I personally don't think 9/11 had too much of an influence on the trajectory of pop culture. It may have changed people's attitudes towards life, but it didn't have an immerse effect on music, movies or TV shows. 9/11 did have an effect on movies and TV shows. Note how many movies and shows during the 2000s dealt with topics such as terrorism, war, politics, and other topics related to current events. I don't think shows like 24 would have been as big if not for 9/11. As for music, there was already a shift towards a more urban sound to pop music in 1999 and 2000 and that accelerated in 2001 and 2002. Just listen to *NSync's albums in order to hear what I'm talking about. Bubblegum eras typically only last a few years when they happen and by 2001, the Y2K bubblegum sound had pretty much run it's course. I also don't think post-grunge defines the 2000s, though it was definitely a significant part of the musical palette during that decade. Overall though, I'd say the decade in music was defined by the mainstreaming of hip-hop led by Eminem during the first half of the decade and then ringtone/snap rap during the second half. Def about Teen pop, by Spring 2001 I remember being in 7th grade in my bad girls school and there was an air of fatigue from the music, in general as Teen pop was starting to seem as very uncool. Teen pop was at its oversaturation point by 2001. Christina was already going mature with Lady Marmalade in early 2001 and then you had Nsync's final album which had HEAVY Neptunes influence. Then a full week before 9/11 happened you had SLAVE 4 U which sounded like a mature step from the pop princess. So like I have said before there was a "shift" way before 9/11 even happened, we were heading in that direction no matter what. 2001's first half of pop culture was BLAND and Sterile until Q3 Q4 when people like Michelle Branch, Sum 41, Jimmy Eat World, Shakira and the new sounds of Nsync and Britney started tearing things up. Music Q1 of 2001 was like eating a cold pizza and Q4 of 2001 was like having a 4 course meal, me and slashpop have talked about here how bland early 2001 was for music. It really was that bad and a change needed to happen. when this music video came out in Fall 2001 it was quickly yanked off the air due to how out of place it was, The movie this music video promoted BOMBED as well. I was on the MTV 2 forums and this video got so much hate it was retired from the morning music video lineup lmao Meanwhile videos that kept up with the times made it on the morning charts & TRL every day
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