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Post by slashpop on Nov 7, 2020 3:14:00 GMT 10
9/11 did have an effect on movies and TV shows. Note how many movies and shows during the 2000s dealt with topics such as terrorism, war, politics, and other topics related to current events. I don't think shows like 24 would have been as big if not for 9/11. As for music, there was already a shift towards a more urban sound to pop music in 1999 and 2000 and that accelerated in 2001 and 2002. Just listen to *NSync's albums in order to hear what I'm talking about. Bubblegum eras typically only last a few years when they happen and by 2001, the Y2K bubblegum sound had pretty much run it's course. I also don't think post-grunge defines the 2000s, though it was definitely a significant part of the musical palette during that decade. Overall though, I'd say the decade in music was defined by the mainstreaming of hip-hop led by Eminem during the first half of the decade and then ringtone/snap rap during the second half. Def about Teen pop, by Spring 2001 I remember being in 7th grade in my bad girls school and there was an air of fatigue from the music, in general as Teen pop was starting to seem as very uncool. Teen pop was at its oversaturation point by 2001. Christina was already going mature with Lady Marmalade in early 2001 and then you had Nsync's final album which had HEAVY Neptunes influence. Then a full week before 9/11 happened you had SLAVE 4 U which sounded like a mature step from the pop princess. So like I have said before there was a "shift" way before 9/11 even happened, we were heading in that direction no matter what. 2001's first half of pop culture was BLAND and Sterile until Q3 Q4 when people like Michelle Branch, Sum 41, Jimmy Eat World, Shakira and the new sounds of Nsync and Britney started tearing things up. Music Q1 of 2001 was like eating a cold pizza and Q4 of 2001 was like having a 4 course meal, me and slashpop have talked about here how bland early 2001 was for music. It really was that bad and a change needed to happen. when this music video came out in Fall 2001 it was quickly yanked off the air due to how out of place it was, The movie this music video promoted BOMBED as well. I was on the MTV 2 forums and this video got so much hate it was retired from the morning music video lineup lmao Meanwhile videos that kept up with the times made it on the morning charts & TRL every day Yeah for sure. Music actually got better around 9/11 and a bit before, ironically, and I think its more of rugged and edgy style which is better direction for that kind of music compared to 2000-2001. I don't see it as a dark style which I associate more with anger and sadness, I wouldn't think if 9/11 was actually responsible for the change, but there was a shift for the better regardless.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 7, 2020 4:03:04 GMT 10
Def about Teen pop, by Spring 2001 I remember being in 7th grade in my bad girls school and there was an air of fatigue from the music, in general as Teen pop was starting to seem as very uncool. Teen pop was at its oversaturation point by 2001. Christina was already going mature with Lady Marmalade in early 2001 and then you had Nsync's final album which had HEAVY Neptunes influence. Then a full week before 9/11 happened you had SLAVE 4 U which sounded like a mature step from the pop princess. So like I have said before there was a "shift" way before 9/11 even happened, we were heading in that direction no matter what. 2001's first half of pop culture was BLAND and Sterile until Q3 Q4 when people like Michelle Branch, Sum 41, Jimmy Eat World, Shakira and the new sounds of Nsync and Britney started tearing things up. Music Q1 of 2001 was like eating a cold pizza and Q4 of 2001 was like having a 4 course meal, me and slashpop have talked about here how bland early 2001 was for music. It really was that bad and a change needed to happen. when this music video came out in Fall 2001 it was quickly yanked off the air due to how out of place it was, The movie this music video promoted BOMBED as well. I was on the MTV 2 forums and this video got so much hate it was retired from the morning music video lineup lmao Meanwhile videos that kept up with the times made it on the morning charts & TRL every day Yeah for sure. Music actually got better around 9/11 and a bit before, ironically, and I think its more of rugged and edgy style which is better direction for that kind of music compared to 2000-2001. I don't see it as a dark style which I associate more with anger and sadness, I wouldn't think if 9/11 was actually responsible for the change, but there was a shift for the better regardless. Edgy thats the word, was 100% TOTAL fit for the early 2000s. It just seemed right and set the tone of the day going to school watching these videos in the morning.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 7, 2020 19:27:14 GMT 10
9/11 did have an effect on movies and TV shows. Note how many movies and shows during the 2000s dealt with topics such as terrorism, war, politics, and other topics related to current events. I don't think shows like 24 would have been as big if not for 9/11. The point I was trying to make was that 9/11 didn't result in a sudden change in the TV landscape, shows such as "Law & Order", "Friends", "Malcolm in the Middle" etc. were always going to remain successful going forward regardless of whether 9/11 and the War on Terror had occurred or not. I do agree that the September 11 Attacks did have something of a noteworthy influence on the popularity/production of certain shows and movies, but as a whole, I wouldn't say the effects were anything particularly drastic.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 8, 2020 5:13:07 GMT 10
9/11 did have an effect on movies and TV shows. Note how many movies and shows during the 2000s dealt with topics such as terrorism, war, politics, and other topics related to current events. I don't think shows like 24 would have been as big if not for 9/11. The point I was trying to make was that 9/11 didn't result in a sudden change in the TV landscape, shows such as "Law & Order", "Friends", "Malcolm in the Middle" etc. were always going to remain successful going forward regardless of whether 9/11 and the War on Terror had occurred or not. I do agree that the September 11 Attacks did have something of a noteworthy influence on the popularity/production of certain shows and movies, but as a whole, I wouldn't say the effects were anything particularly drastic. Seemed it was back as usual come December 2001, like yeah we had anthrax scares and the thought in the back of our mind that a terroist attack could happen but for the most part society was back to normal, I went to the mall like 3 weeks after 9/11 to pre order GTA III and it was packed. I went into Sam Goody and there was like 70 people in the store. TV and society went back to normal minus some censoring issues in shows and the amount of mini flags taped the walls of school along with " we are in this together " commercials on tv.
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Post by y2kbaby on Nov 19, 2020 11:45:42 GMT 10
I think the 2000-2009 as a whole was most definitely upbeat. More upbeat than most of the 1990s and most of the 2010s.
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