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Post by mc98 on Feb 19, 2019 3:00:30 GMT 10
I wasn't aware of Snapchat at least until 2015, and still it was only refered as "sending pics that would only last for 24h". The filters that became a cultural sensation were only on my radar starting in 2016. Yeah, the puppy and rainbow barf filters was the peak of Snapchat. I was aware of Snapchat in 2013/2014, but I thought it looked generic.
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Post by al on Feb 19, 2019 6:55:24 GMT 10
Yeah, the puppy and rainbow barf filters was the peak of Snapchat. I was aware of Snapchat in 2013/2014, but I thought it looked generic. Indeed it was a very different beast before 2014 or so, but fairly common in my area nonetheless. Similar to how the vibe of Facebook changed significantly. Snapchat, right along with Instagram, were popular iPhone4 downloads in 2012 and 2013 but took their own respective time to compete with Facebook in legitimacy. It was initially known as the "dick pic" app, almost as a response to not being to post more scandalous things on Facebook anymore. Some of the popular kids notoriously posted pics of them doing drugs at my hs graduation, so that kind of put it on the map for anyone who wasn't already familiar. I mostly remember people taking random selfies for Snapchat (though they didn't even call them "selfies" yet) and then among some of my friends, it began replacing texting as a messager. (It got hard to get my texts answered at all by the 2013/2014 schoolyear.) However it was really still a novelty at this point, like the now faded Words with Friends was, until the filters blew up and it became a news and information source. I also have to wonder if Snapchat and Vine played off of each other.
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 19, 2019 11:50:07 GMT 10
I find it interesting you guys didn't experience Snapchat until the mid 10's because it was pretty big in 2012 at my school. Perhaps it's like Twitter and had its waves. I feel like Twitter boomed when Facebook initially did in 2009 and then was stagnant until around 2012\2013, when Facebook started getting lame and teens/twenty-somethings sought better platforms. There was such a change in teen culture between when I started and finished high school. But back on topic, I agree that emo was dead in 2010 in exchange for "scene". Whatever exactly that was, and people only really identified as scene until 2012/13. Elements of the style didn't really die as I said before, as much as blend with mainstream. I probably see more people with vibrant hair colors or unusual styles than ever, long hair is getting more accepted on males, tattoos and piercings have been normalized, skinny jeans are just jeans, etc. Sure the styles quite literally referencing emo have gotten more rare, but what hasn't evolved in a decade. Oh wow. I didn't really start notice people use snapchat at least till around 2013. 2012 it was still mostly Facebook and Twitter with Instagram on the rise. Kik was another social media app that was big during my high school years. Nobody seems to mentioned that. I guess geography plays a role in trends as well. I remember @x2m telling me he didn't know about Twitter till 2012 when I knew about it since early 2009, by 2012 everyone I knew under 30 had one or was aware of it's existence.
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 19, 2019 11:50:47 GMT 10
I find it interesting you guys didn't experience Snapchat until the mid 10's because it was pretty big in 2012 at my school. Perhaps it's like Twitter and had its waves. I feel like Twitter boomed when Facebook initially did in 2009 and then was stagnant until around 2012\2013, when Facebook started getting lame and teens/twenty-somethings sought better platforms. There was such a change in teen culture between when I started and finished high school. But back on topic, I agree that emo was dead in 2010 in exchange for "scene". Whatever exactly that was, and people only really identified as scene until 2012/13. Elements of the style didn't really die as I said before, as much as blend with mainstream. I probably see more people with vibrant hair colors or unusual styles than ever, long hair is getting more accepted on males, tattoos and piercings have been normalized, skinny jeans are just jeans, etc. Sure the styles quite literally referencing emo have gotten more rare, but what hasn't evolved in a decade. Oh wow. I didn't really start notice people use snapchat at least till around 2013. 2012 for me it was still mostly Facebook and Twitter with Instagram on the rise. Kik was another social media app that was big during my high school years. Nobody seems to mentioned that. I guess geography plays a role in trends as well. I remember @x2m telling me he didn't know about Twitter till 2012 when I knew about it since early 2009, by 2012 everyone I knew under 30 had one or was aware of it's existence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 13:16:38 GMT 10
I can as well actually. I think it's also because My Chemical Romance weren't so pretentious about their success as what the other "big" Emo bands were. I mean, you had Fall Out Boy release "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race", which is really just over-glorifying their newfound fame and the greatness of their style of music. Behind all the dark clothing and eyeliner, My Chemical Romance were just an outright pop-punk band in lieu with bands such as Green Day, Sum 41, Simple Plan etc. I feel like MCR genuinely didn't try too hard to be cool or hardcore like a lot of bands did at the time, which ultimately made them trendsetters. I think they were pretty self-aware in what they were doing, more theatrical and bizarre, while still able to sit comfortably in an existing genre. Ironically MCR gets cited as just about the poster child of emo today, though what it inspired and what it actually was may be two different things. Ha I know I could never stand his voice! But I think I'm like trolling myself for finding it entertaining at this point. I heard some people sing "Welcome to My Life" at karaoke sometime last year and that's what made me start to find some value in it. It's just amusing. I feel like their attitude, along with other pop punk bands, did supply a lot to emo, and even though they themselves didn't particularly look it, they're almost like its older sibling. When you're a 11 year old who has "the worst life ever!!" and "nobody understands me!!" then Simple Plan songs are really relatable. And yes they're fun to sing along to! I was about to say whenever it comes on in the car, me and my brother start singing along.
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Post by al on Feb 19, 2019 13:49:56 GMT 10
Oh wow. I didn't really start notice people use snapchat at least till around 2013. 2012 it was still mostly Facebook and Twitter with Instagram on the rise. Kik was another social media app that was big during my high school years. Nobody seems to mentioned that. I guess geography plays a role in trends as well. I remember @x2m telling me he didn't know about Twitter till 2012 when I knew about it since early 2009, by 2012 everyone I knew under 30 had one or was aware of it's existence. Yeah it really can be luck of the draw. Tumblr was also adopted quite early at my school. Meanwhile I remember seeing kik mentioned online often but I hardly knew anyone who used it. Twitter definitely had a boom in 2012 but it was doing quite decently in 2009. {Spoiler}Back when I made Club Penguin troll accounts.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 19, 2019 20:53:59 GMT 10
But back on topic, I agree that emo was dead in 2010 in exchange for "scene". Whatever exactly that was, and people only really identified as scene until 2012/13. Elements of the style didn't really die as I said before, as much as blend with mainstream. I probably see more people with vibrant hair colors or unusual styles than ever, long hair is getting more accepted on males, tattoos and piercings have been normalized, skinny jeans are just jeans, etc. Sure the styles quite literally referencing emo have gotten more rare, but what hasn't evolved in a decade. I feel as though "scene" was more of a natural progression of Emo rather than a separate fashion trend in it's own right, to be honest. Even though there were a few notable differences between the two movements, "scene" borrowed an awful lot from Emo and I'd argue that there isn't enough differences to really distinguish the two as separate cultural trends.
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Post by Telso on Feb 19, 2019 21:25:07 GMT 10
Scene borrows a lot from Emo, that's true. But the Scene fashion, if you google it, you can immediately see that it is very over-the-top, bright and colorful in contrast to the darker and gritty styles of Emo. As for the music, I'm pretty sure that I already explained somewhere else that Emo sticks mostly to the Rock side of things (mostly Pop Punk and Alt Rock-influences), while Scene grabs onto Electropop with Hip Hop and Electroclash influences (the Millionaires, Blood on the Dancefloor, Brokencyde and similar groups). Totally different music scenes.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 19, 2019 22:06:27 GMT 10
Scene borrows a lot from Emo, that's true. But the Scene fashion, if you google it, you can immediately see that it is very over-the-top, bright and colorful in contrast to the darker and gritty styles of Emo. As for the music, I'm pretty sure that I already explained somewhere else that Emo sticks mostly to the Rock side of things (mostly Pop Punk and Alt Rock-influences), while Scene grabs onto Electropop with Hip Hop and Electroclash influences (the Millionaires, Blood on the Dancefloor, Brokencyde and similar groups). Totally different music scenes. I just don't see it. I understand that there are differences between the two, but to me, "scene" and Emo both fall under the one collective category and they should be regarded as such, IMO. It's like they're two "sides" of the one cultural movement. Emo and scene have similar fashion aesthetics and core values; there are a lot of crossover points between the two.
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Post by Telso on Feb 19, 2019 23:11:44 GMT 10
I just don't see it. I understand that there are differences between the two, but to me, "scene" and Emo both fall under the one collective category and they should be regarded as such, IMO. It's like they're two "sides" of the one cultural movement. Emo and scene have similar fashion aesthetics and core values; there are a lot of crossover points between the two. That's alright, lots of people mix the two because of the very similar aesthetics which is understandable because there's definitely tons of crossover between the two. In many ways, Scene is just the more festive, cheery version of the angsty Emo which I would guess would be the easiest way to differentiate. But musically, you just can't deny the two are incredibly far off the spectrum from eachother Versus Basically it's Avril Lavigne vs. Ke$ha
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Post by mc98 on Feb 20, 2019 0:31:06 GMT 10
I just don't see it. I understand that there are differences between the two, but to me, "scene" and Emo both fall under the one collective category and they should be regarded as such, IMO. It's like they're two "sides" of the one cultural movement. Emo and scene have similar fashion aesthetics and core values; there are a lot of crossover points between the two. That's alright, lots of people mix the two because of the very similar aesthetics which is understandable because there's definitely tons of crossover between the two. In many ways, Scene is just the more festive, cheery version of the angsty Emo which I would guess would be the easiest way to differentiate. But musically, you just can't deny the two are incredibly far off the spectrum from eachother Versus Basically it's Avril Lavigne vs. Ke$ha In terms of quality, Emo sounds much better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 6:08:53 GMT 10
I had no idea scene was a music scene but then again, I never heard of scene until I joined inthe00s.
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Post by al on Feb 20, 2019 6:52:27 GMT 10
Emo and scene are basically under the same umbrella culture and have a lot of similarities but indeed the vibe is different. Scene is more the early 10's version that was mixing with electropop and featured a lot less black. Many would have still considered it emo and while that wouldn't be entirely untrue, it was more like its "little sibling".
I look at it like Goth=>Emo=>Scene
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Post by kev2000sfan on Aug 14, 2019 2:47:53 GMT 10
It influenced the f outta me and I had yet to even know about it. In 2006-2007, its the classic me. Haha I just really miss the 2000s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 16, 2019 18:03:52 GMT 10
Here's some videos which you all may get a laugh out of. Back in 2007, the Australian Government funded an "anti-emo" ad-campaign and for a brief time, this was the ad that was broadcast on free-to-air networks across the country. Funnily enough, I can actually remember seeing this air on TV, lol. Also from 2007, a Today Tonight report about the emo scene and how it was impacting kids lives. In retrospect, it's interesting how there were people out there (mostly parents and people 'out of the loop') who genuinely feared the emo scene. Good 'ol rock 'n roll ethics.
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