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Post by SharksFan99 on May 22, 2018 22:00:08 GMT 10
Yeah, I agree Could it possibly just be a phase thing? Could the years you mentioned just want to get with the times, considering the going into high school/early high school, and then want to hold onto their childhood and listen to older music as their age progresses? I'm not really too sure. For instance, when I was 13, I wasn't exclusively listening to songs such as "Gangnam Style" or "Call Me Maybe". I can only speak from my own experience, but people in my year group were listening to the likes of the Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, even back when we were in Year 7.
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Post by AussieTV on May 22, 2018 22:07:06 GMT 10
Yeah, I agree Could it possibly just be a phase thing? Could the years you mentioned just want to get with the times, considering the going into high school/early high school, and then want to hold onto their childhood and listen to older music as their age progresses? I'm not really too sure. For instance, when I was 13, I wasn't exclusively listening to songs such as "Gangnam Style" or "Call Me Maybe". I can only speak from my own experience, but people in my year group were listening to the likes of the Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, even back when we were in Year 7. Yeah, agreed. I don't know what can explain that the fact some of the younger kids mostly only listened to (really) modern music at your school, which isn't really the case at mine
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Post by al on May 25, 2018 1:50:05 GMT 10
Emo was still fairly big when I was in middle school, but honestly I dressed pretty plainly/conservatively and listened to music from like the Disney Channel then lol. It wasn't dead by the time I was in high school, but I'd say it wasn't considered "cool" anymore, especially after my freshman year. It was then relegated to the anime and band geeks, which I would actually say still holds true. By 2011 it was definitely back to being a niche thing. I too view it more as a style than I do a music genre, as I feel what could be defined that way became too disjointed in the later years. For example, both Green Day and BotDF get called emo without necessarily being similar. What visually appears as emo however is much easier to discern. I do not see the style as having gone away but rather having morphed, and as with most in the 2010's, there is a lot more gray area than there was last decade. Alt/grunge/goth in both their dark and pastel forms remain very popular in a dilluted quasi-mainstream way, while the more extreme versions are visible without much searching. I actually think that the emo stigma has faded, skinny jeans and multi-colored hair and discussing one's mental health have just become a normal part of life this decade, so I think the appearance of it having completely faded is a tad misleading.
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Post by SharksFan99 on May 26, 2018 23:46:38 GMT 10
Emo was still fairly big when I was in middle school, but honestly I dressed pretty plainly/conservatively and listened to music from like the Disney Channel then lol. It wasn't dead by the time I was in high school, but I'd say it wasn't considered "cool" anymore, especially after my freshman year. It was then relegated to the anime and band geeks, which I would actually say still holds true. By 2011 it was definitely back to being a niche thing. I too view it more as a style than I do a music genre, as I feel what could be defined that way became too disjointed in the later years. For example, both Green Day and BotDF get called emo without necessarily being similar. What visually appears as emo however is much easier to discern. I do not see the style as having gone away but rather having morphed, and as with most in the 2010's, there is a lot more gray area than there was last decade. Alt/grunge/goth in both their dark and pastel forms remain very popular in a dilluted quasi-mainstream way, while the more extreme versions are visible without much searching. I actually think that the emo stigma has faded, skinny jeans and multi-colored hair and discussing one's mental health have just become a normal part of life this decade, so I think the appearance of it having completely faded is a tad misleading. I agree. I think the stigma associated with the Emo scene was mostly confined to the Mid-Late 2000s, the era in which Emo was at the peak of it's popularity. From my perspective, I honestly don't remember it being stigmatized in any way by the time we entered the 2010s. In a general sense, the Emo music scene of the Mid-Late 2000s can really best be categorized as simply a phase (or a continuation) of the pop-punk movement.
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Post by skullmaiden on Aug 13, 2018 20:29:52 GMT 10
Most of what people called goth were actually emo, but none of them called themselves emo at the time. I had some of the fashion accessories like jelly bracelets, a studded wrist cuff, studded belt, and even a black fishnet shirt I wore under black t-shirts. I did not however own Tripp pants and didn't wear the side swept layered hairstyle. I didn't care much for pop punk either.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 13, 2018 21:51:29 GMT 10
I think it's interesting how many people around my age (at least where I live) are interested in the Late 2000s Emo/Pop-Punk scene. I seem to come across more people who like at least one Emo band (e.g Fall Out Boy) than I do people who dislike it completely (such as myself  ). Just a week ago, I was in the front passenger seat of my friend's car and as we were driving along, Panic at the Disco's new song was played on the Top-40 station we were listening to. He started to sing along with it and then I jokingly made a comment that went along the lines of, "how can you like a horrible Emo band". He then told me to "shut up and get out of the car" (in a joking manner, of course) for not liking Emo music.  I wasn't aware that he liked Emo and I've been friends with him for 11 years. 
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Post by skullmaiden on Aug 13, 2018 22:01:03 GMT 10
I think it's interesting how many people around my age (at least where I live) are interested in the Late 2000s Emo/Pop-Punk scene. I seem to come across more people who like at least one Emo band (e.g Fall Out Boy) than I do people who dislike it completely (such as myself ). Just a week ago, I was in the front passenger seat of my friend's car and as we were driving along, Panic at the Disco's new song was played on the Top-40 station we were listening to. He started to sing along with it and then I jokingly made a comment that went along the lines of, "how can you like a horrible Emo band". He then told me to "shut up and get out of the car" (in a joking manner, of course) for not liking Emo music.  I wasn't aware that he liked Emo and I've been friends with him for 11 years. I would consider Fall out Boy and Panic to lean more pop punk. AFI and MCR were more emo like. Maybe HIM also falls under that category as a good share of their fanbase seemed to be emo or scene.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 8, 2019 9:34:51 GMT 10
It pains me to say this (since I've never been a fan of the genre), but to be honest, I can start to appreciate elements of the Emo scene now. I've been listening to a few Emo songs over the past couple of days and listening to them has made me realise that they really weren't as bad as what I had thought of them for all these years. It must be the nostalgic factor.  If I were to rank the Top-4 songs that I can appreciate/tolerate the most, it would look like this: 1. "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race" - Fall Out Boy 2. "Welcome to the Black Parade" - My Chemical Romance 3. "Teenagers" - My Chemical Romance 4. "Check Yes Juliet" - We The Kings I still don't like any of Panic at the Disco's songs. To me, they're the worst of the worst. "I Write Sins, Not Tragedies" would have to be one of the most overrated songs of the Mid 2000s.
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 9, 2019 13:33:03 GMT 10
Well, emo is sorta making a mini come back in my area but it's not as controversial as it was 10-15 years ago.
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Post by al on Feb 9, 2019 14:49:36 GMT 10
Kind of a random anecdote, but I do some excel work for my dad that basically amounts to hours of monotonous logging. Sometimes I listen to those "Top 100 _insert theme_Songs" type videos that compile a bunch of songs and play them for less than ten seconds because miraculously it keeps me focused better than anything. Anyway ngl I have been finding myself enjoying the emo ones. I know. What's happening. Why is it like, fun now? Watch emo replace hair metal and bubble gum pop as the ultimate fun nostalgia genre.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 9, 2019 21:23:45 GMT 10
Well, emo is sorta making a mini come back in my area but it's not as controversial as it was 10-15 years ago. In what way, just out of curiosity? Are people starting to wear more dark clothing? Kind of a random anecdote, but I do some excel work for my dad that basically amounts to hours of monotonous logging. Sometimes I listen to those "Top 100 _insert theme_Songs" type videos that compile a bunch of songs and play them for less than ten seconds because miraculously it keeps me focused better than anything. Anyway ngl I have been finding myself enjoying the emo ones. I know. What's happening. Why is it like, fun now? Watch emo replace hair metal and bubble gum pop as the ultimate fun nostalgia genre. Haha. What emo songs have you heard so far? In that case, it's pretty sad that we're both now starting to enjoy a genre that is renowned for being extremely cringeworthy and having really whiny vocals! You know, it actually wouldn't surprise me if Emo does become the ultimate fun nostalgic genre in a few years time! You'll get all the '90s and Early 2000s borns who grew up with the genre as kids/teens starting to express a fondness for it and it will likely experience some sort of revival in the mainstream.
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Post by aja675 on Feb 9, 2019 21:32:27 GMT 10
As a 12 year old, I had a teacher fresh out of college who was only nine years older than me and loved emo and demanded all our quiz notebooks in her subject had to be covered in black paper. However, she also had a perky personality and was an IRL version of this: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PerkyGoth
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 11, 2019 3:40:27 GMT 10
Well, emo is sorta making a mini come back in my area but it's not as controversial as it was 10-15 years ago. In what way, just out of curiosity? Are people starting to wear more dark clothing? Kind of a random anecdote, but I do some excel work for my dad that basically amounts to hours of monotonous logging. Sometimes I listen to those "Top 100 _insert theme_Songs" type videos that compile a bunch of songs and play them for less than ten seconds because miraculously it keeps me focused better than anything. Anyway ngl I have been finding myself enjoying the emo ones. I know. What's happening. Why is it like, fun now? Watch emo replace hair metal and bubble gum pop as the ultimate fun nostalgia genre. Haha. What emo songs have you heard so far? In that case, it's pretty sad that we're both now starting to enjoy a genre that is renowned for being extremely cringeworthy and having really whiny vocals! You know, it actually wouldn't surprise me if Emo does become the ultimate fun nostalgic genre in a few years time! You'll get all the '90s and Early 2000s borns who grew up with the genre as kids/teens starting to express a fondness for it and it will likely experience some sort of revival in the mainstream. Yea there are teens in my area who wear dark clothing and dye their hair, but most of them wouldn't classify themselves as emo.
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 11, 2019 3:45:24 GMT 10
Emo was still fairly big when I was in middle school, but honestly I dressed pretty plainly/conservatively and listened to music from like the Disney Channel then lol. It wasn't dead by the time I was in high school, but I'd say it wasn't considered "cool" anymore, especially after my freshman year. It was then relegated to the anime and band geeks, which I would actually say still holds true. By 2011 it was definitely back to being a niche thing. I too view it more as a style than I do a music genre, as I feel what could be defined that way became too disjointed in the later years. For example, both Green Day and BotDF get called emo without necessarily being similar. What visually appears as emo however is much easier to discern. I do not see the style as having gone away but rather having morphed, and as with most in the 2010's, there is a lot more gray area than there was last decade. Alt/grunge/goth in both their dark and pastel forms remain very popular in a dilluted quasi-mainstream way, while the more extreme versions are visible without much searching. I actually think that the emo stigma has faded, skinny jeans and multi-colored hair and discussing one's mental health have just become a normal part of life this decade, so I think the appearance of it having completely faded is a tad misleading. Agreed, emo was still popular at my middle school in the late 00s but by the time I entered high school it wasn't talked about anymore. Even tho I'm 2 years younger. Disney channel did had some good music back then. Corbin Bleu, Zac Efferon, Jonas brothers, even Miley Cyurs had her moments. Even as a guy I enjoy some the kids music at the time.
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Post by al on Feb 15, 2019 12:31:08 GMT 10
Haha. What emo songs have you heard so far? In that case, it's pretty sad that we're both now starting to enjoy a genre that is renowned for being extremely cringeworthy and having really whiny vocals!  You know, it actually wouldn't surprise me if Emo does become the ultimate fun nostalgic genre in a few years time! You'll get all the '90s and Early 2000s borns who grew up with the genre as kids/teens starting to express a fondness for it and it will likely experience some sort of revival in the mainstream. Hahaha I know right?! I'm owning it though. ("Check Yes Juliet" IS a bop.) There's something about the whininess now that feels so current even if stylistically it isn't at all. As I said above, the idea of discussing mental health issues is mainstream now. Depression and anxiety are seeming virally contagious and suicide is getting frighteningly commonplace. Even in the 00's, this was still something people largely kept to themselves, so a lot of these lyrics felt bizarre and uncomfortable. Since then we've open up to a degree, like hey maybe there is something wrong here, maybe it is different growing up in this century. Yet at the same time, the attention on this topic nowadays can get almost exhausting. It's just gotten so serious. And that's where emo comes in. It's so over-the-top in its angst and expression that it almost feels like a clairvoyant spoof, without dismissing the reality out of the content. Songs like "I'm Not Okay" by MCR are kind of amazing in 2019. In one realm, it's hilarious, because the whining is so in your face and practically kitschy. Yet the willingness to sound vulnerable also feels relevant. Agreed, emo was still popular at my middle school in the late 00s but by the time I entered high school it wasn't talked about anymore. Even tho I'm 2 years younger. Disney channel did had some good music back then. Corbin Bleu, Zac Efferon, Jonas brothers, even Miley Cyurs had her moments. Even as a guy I enjoy some the kids music at the time. Yeah I've always felt like c/o 12-14 had it similar culturally. HSM was pretty huge around this time and even though I wouldn't say I was a superfan, I did enjoy it. There were some bands that were big around 2009 that were kind of emo-lite, like Metro Station and maybe even All Time Low, that I feel like served my age group a little more.
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I wasn't aware that he liked Emo and I've been friends with him for 11 years. 
I wasn't aware that he liked Emo and I've been friends with him for 11 years. 
