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Post by Attorney General ReignMan on Jun 16, 2018 9:44:07 GMT 10
Sort of, to be honest I don't really know....just like how im unsure of whether im religious or not. Well, that means you're agnostic.
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Post by longaotian on Jun 16, 2018 9:55:38 GMT 10
Sort of, to be honest I don't really know....just like how im unsure of whether im religious or not. Well, that means you're agnostic. I guess, I haven't really given it too much thought. But I agree with the Urban Dictionary's definition of Agnosticism - "A person who is sensible enough to admit that they have no fucking clue what is going on in the universe." I mean I was brought up in a Catholic household and I've done all the processes and stuff, but my family hasn't gone to church since 2007. We kind of just stopped being religious like everyone else.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 26, 2018 9:29:47 GMT 10
November 1, 1755. It was All Saints Day, in the city of Lisbon, Portugal, which at the time was perhaps the holiest city on the planet. Nearly everyone in the city was of devout Catholic faith, they followed their Bibles, they attended their churches, they built their entire lives around the Catholic faith. So on this holy day, nearly everyone in the entire city was heading to their churches, to continue their holy traditions. On that day, 9:40 am, when the city was at worship, a massive earthquake came in, and destroyed the city, all these churches, statues, other Catholic architectural structures, destroyed. All these people, who have devoted their entire lives to the faith, dead. A tsunami followed the earthquake, increasing the death toll, it's said up to 100,000 people died from that disaster, making it one of the deadliest earthquakes in history. Their entire lives, they devoted to God, and this is how he repaid them. The main question that should be asked about religion is not "is God real", but "is God good?". Keep in mind, there are thousands of religions out there, that all believe they are righteous, and those that don't follow somehow deserve punishment after death in some way, shape, or form. Regardless of which religion is right though, at least 5 billion people are wrong. But why do these 5-7 billion people deserve to be punished? Like, let's say Christianity is the right religion. So does a Buddhist person, who has lived a humble and honorable life, gave to the poor when he didn't have much to begin with, rejected aggression even when attacked, or even set himself on FIRE (many of them did that during the Vietnam War), that person spent his life to the end suffering to be a better person, perhaps even suffering worse than Jesus did, why does he deserve to go to Hell just for not believing in the religion that somehow got it "right"? How many Christians do you honestly see going the length of suffering like that? Not only that, but why is it someone else's fault they didn't know their religion was wrong? We're all born agnostic, not knowing anything about religion at all, these people likely chose one religion because they grew up where that religion was the status quo. Oh, and what about those that live in harsh theocratic areas where believing in another religion is punished? How were they supposed to know better when their religion was forced upon them? Why does a Westboro Baptist Church Member who holds "God Hates Fags" signs and beats up homosexuals deserve salvation moreso than a Buddhist monk? Also, no one asked to exist, we were forced here without consent. Why should we be punished for being imperfect in a world we didn't ask to live in? Also, is the reward of heaven really worth it? Keep in mind, heaven is eternal afterlife. That means it goes on forever. "Forever" doesn't mean like 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years or something, it means NO end. Yes, indeed I believe that life here on Earth is way too short, and I certainly wish it were longer, like 1000 years going at the pace it's going now. But "forever"? Not only that but most religions believe that there is no pain and suffering in heaven either. But without pain and suffering, there is no thrill of risk, or thrill of strategy, nothing matters since there is no consequence. I know many people feel that life is useless without an afterlife, but I feel an afterlife is useless without an afterafterlife, or if there were 10 realms you live and die in before you cease to exist. Yet I don't know of any religion that believes in that sort of thing, and if they exist, they're probably more of a cult than a religion. I agree. That's the hypocrisy of religion; religions are based on preaching love and kindness, yet those who follow a religion different to the majority are often shunned and discriminated. Honestly, I have my doubts over the genuinity of religion. It's just a product of socialisation.
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Post by #Infinity on Aug 27, 2018 16:52:50 GMT 10
I believe unflinchingly in God. However, I don't imagine Him as simply a white, bearded sage in the clouds, as that image is an obvious human construct. God is more of a universal presence that motivates the laws of nature, unseen but felt everywhere.
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Post by skullmaiden on Sept 3, 2018 14:58:50 GMT 10
I was just talking about this with my mom yesterday when I got a new hamster because the other one escaped in my vent. She said “Maybe that was God’s way of saying you weren’t meant to be the owner of Lily” (Lily was the other pets name) I told her that I don’t really believe in God. She said “You better believe in him or else you’ll get bad karma”. And then I said “I respect your beliefs, but I just don’t believe in him.” She said “All my children will believe in God.” And I asked her “Where is the proof that God exists?” then she said “The bible.” Then she said “If there wasn’t a God, there would be no earth or Adam and Eve. There wouldn’t be life.” In all honesty, I’m not going to follow my moms beliefs. I still don’t really believe in God. I mean, the idea of there being a man in the sky that knows absolutely everything about billions of lives is just crazy and unbelievable to me. The only person who is in control of what I do is me. I don’t believe in God, but my life is still pretty good. I just don’t like how my mom can’t accept the fact that I don’t believe in God. I really don’t care how mad she gets, to be honest. I won’t apologize for it and I won’t regret saying that I don’t believe in God. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter that much. My beliefs are complicated at best. I am open to there being a higher power, and forces in nature we can't really understand, but I don't believe anything would micromanage all that happens in this world. I get annoyed when people say everything happens for a reason. Humans have a mind of their own, and so do animals like your pet that decided to go awol. Your mom might mean well, but trying to control what someone believes is a losing battle and not her decision to make.
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Post by skullmaiden on Sept 3, 2018 15:07:50 GMT 10
November 1, 1755. It was All Saints Day, in the city of Lisbon, Portugal, which at the time was perhaps the holiest city on the planet. Nearly everyone in the city was of devout Catholic faith, they followed their Bibles, they attended their churches, they built their entire lives around the Catholic faith. So on this holy day, nearly everyone in the entire city was heading to their churches, to continue their holy traditions. On that day, 9:40 am, when the city was at worship, a massive earthquake came in, and destroyed the city, all these churches, statues, other Catholic architectural structures, destroyed. All these people, who have devoted their entire lives to the faith, dead. A tsunami followed the earthquake, increasing the death toll, it's said up to 100,000 people died from that disaster, making it one of the deadliest earthquakes in history. Their entire lives, they devoted to God, and this is how he repaid them. The main question that should be asked about religion is not "is God real", but "is God good?". Keep in mind, there are thousands of religions out there, that all believe they are righteous, and those that don't follow somehow deserve punishment after death in some way, shape, or form. Regardless of which religion is right though, at least 5 billion people are wrong. But why do these 5-7 billion people deserve to be punished? Like, let's say Christianity is the right religion. So does a Buddhist person, who has lived a humble and honorable life, gave to the poor when he didn't have much to begin with, rejected aggression even when attacked, or even set himself on FIRE (many of them did that during the Vietnam War), that person spent his life to the end suffering to be a better person, perhaps even suffering worse than Jesus did, why does he deserve to go to Hell just for not believing in the religion that somehow got it "right"? How many Christians do you honestly see going the length of suffering like that? Not only that, but why is it someone else's fault they didn't know their religion was wrong? We're all born agnostic, not knowing anything about religion at all, these people likely chose one religion because they grew up where that religion was the status quo. Oh, and what about those that live in harsh theocratic areas where believing in another religion is punished? How were they supposed to know better when their religion was forced upon them? Why does a Westboro Baptist Church Member who holds "God Hates Fags" signs and beats up homosexuals deserve salvation moreso than a Buddhist monk? Also, no one asked to exist, we were forced here without consent. Why should we be punished for being imperfect in a world we didn't ask to live in? Also, is the reward of heaven really worth it? Keep in mind, heaven is eternal afterlife. That means it goes on forever. "Forever" doesn't mean like 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years or something, it means NO end. Yes, indeed I believe that life here on Earth is way too short, and I certainly wish it were longer, like 1000 years going at the pace it's going now. But "forever"? Not only that but most religions believe that there is no pain and suffering in heaven either. But without pain and suffering, there is no thrill of risk, or thrill of strategy, nothing matters since there is no consequence. I know many people feel that life is useless without an afterlife, but I feel an afterlife is useless without an afterafterlife, or if there were 10 realms you live and die in before you cease to exist. Yet I don't know of any religion that believes in that sort of thing, and if they exist, they're probably more of a cult than a religion. I agree. That's the hypocrisy of religion; religions are based on preaching love and kindness, yet those who follow a religion different to the majority are often shunned and discriminated. Honestly, I have my doubts over the genuinity of religion. It's just a product of socialisation. That's just one of the many ways tribalism manifests. Just more us vs them crap.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 3, 2018 20:21:49 GMT 10
My beliefs are complicated at best. I am open to there being a higher power, and forces in nature we can't really understand, but I don't believe anything would micromanage all that happens in this world. I get annoyed when people say everything happens for a reason. Humans have a mind of their own, and so do animals like your pet that decided to go awol. Your mom might mean well, but trying to control what someone believes is a losing battle and not her decision to make. I respect your opinion, but to be honest, I do believe there is a reason behind everything that happens in life. I'm not saying that God or a higher power is responsible for it, but some things are honestly unexplainable and are completely out of our own control. I actually watched a documentary last night which is a great example of this notion. Back in 2003, a 24-year-old LA man was wrongly convicted of allegedly murdering two people. He was placed behind bars pending trial and had he of been found guilty, he would have been placed on death row. His alibi was that he was attending a game at Dodgers Stadium on the night of the murders, but the lawyer was unable to retrieve any evidence proving his whereabouts and ultimately, his innocence. Coincidentally, an episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" was filmed at Dodgers Stadium and the man was actually filmed during a scene of the episode. The brief footage of him proved his innocence and saved his life. What are the chances of that happening? There were thousands of people at that stadium and he just happened to be filmed out of all those people. Humans may have a mind of their own, but that situation was a complete fluke and out of everyone's control. You can't plan something like that. Edit: I have found an article about the incident. www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/sep/29/larry-david-long-shot-how-curb-your-enthusiasm-saved-a-man-from-death-row
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Post by dount2005 on Sept 16, 2018 7:14:29 GMT 10
Of course I do. I believe God made this world through evolution.
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Post by phoenix on Nov 3, 2018 8:37:25 GMT 10
Nah. I've had religion forced on me and then I had a time where I was finally able to do my own research and make my own decisions about issues and I simply don't believe in God. The thing is that I'm bisexual so the toxicity against the LGBT community within religion leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't care about religion as much as most people seem to and it doesn't exactly affect my life. I'm not one of those people strongly against the idea of a God though and it could be a possibility, there's so much of the universe we don't know.
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Post by CupidTheStupid on Nov 3, 2018 8:52:45 GMT 10
Yes. When I was little I prayed to God for guidance & advice. I loved the concept of Gods & I know God has many open doors for me in my future!
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Post by dount2005 on Nov 3, 2018 8:56:40 GMT 10
Yes. When I was little I prayed to God for guidance & advice. I loved the concept of Gods & I know God has many open doors for me in my future! God bless.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 3, 2018 23:28:23 GMT 10
The thing is that I'm bisexual so the toxicity against the LGBT community within religion leaves a bad taste in my mouth. That's one of the reasons why I personally refuse to follow a religion. It's full of double standards. Personally, i'm straight, but the cases I hear of minority groups being excluded from church/religious practices only adds to me wanting to further distance myself from the idea of "God" and religion. Two of the founding principals of religion is preaching love and forgiveness, so why are members of the LGBT community made to feel excluded? It's completely hypocritical.
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Post by Khal on Nov 4, 2018 4:36:04 GMT 10
Yes, but im more spiritual
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Post by Cassie on Nov 5, 2018 5:24:33 GMT 10
I only believe because my mom is Christian. Even when I feel like God will make my life at least a tad better, it just gets worse as life goes on. My problems (puberty, depression, etc) seem to get worse every year.
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Post by grace on Dec 8, 2018 8:32:25 GMT 10
No. I do not believe because there is no evidence
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