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Post by xamo on Oct 7, 2019 6:44:29 GMT 10
Sex & gender are different. There’s only 2 biological sexes, however, gender is more fluid. No, there is way more sexes than just two. There are species of sea sponges that are known to have more than 20,000 biological sexes. In humans there is a lot of variance too, but since the binary is systematically forced on people, many intersex people force themselves into one or another sex. Many doctors force their parents into giving intersex children useless operations on their genitalia for the sake of fitting in. And people have the audacity to say "transgenderism" is hurting children. It's hilarious to see people in this forum dismiss a cultural/biological reality because it discomforts them.
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Post by rainbow on Oct 8, 2019 1:37:09 GMT 10
The 'more than 2 genders" debate is just conservatives trying to make liberals look foolish for their own good. Did you even read the responses lol. Some people on here actually believe there’s many genders.
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Post by xamo on Oct 8, 2019 3:12:52 GMT 10
Some people are really uneducated so they use their 3rd grade knowledge of biology to push a bs narrative down everyone’s throats. You could cite hundreds of sources and these people would still think their opinion matters lol
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Post by smartboi on Oct 8, 2019 16:09:03 GMT 10
Sex & gender are different. There’s only 2 biological sexes, however, gender is more fluid. This is pretty much what I came here to say. All normal humans are biologically either male or female. Gender is dependent entirely on how the brain perceives things and functions. I personally think it would really weird to assume that we humans only have two personality types/behaviors. The entire argument of this thread is kinda pointless. Most people already agree that we're biologically male or female. I'm not surprised about the confusion though, growing up I was always told by teachers and books that sex and gender are the same thing. They were usually used interchangeably. I don't know if gender being used to describe one's personality is a recent thing or what, but as of right now the definition of gender is based on male and female roles in society. I do feel though that 2 billion weirdly specific pronouns are ridiculous though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 4:24:44 GMT 10
Wows my 26 year old brother came out as non-binary/transgender and showed me his jewlerry and make up. Well that is enough tea for today!
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Post by aja675 on Dec 3, 2020 11:04:38 GMT 10
Wows my 26 year old brother came out as non-binary/transgender and showed me his jewlerry and make up. Well that is enough tea for today! I just kinda left this post alone for days because I didn't know how to react, but wow, that is so out-of-character.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 13:22:12 GMT 10
Wows my 26 year old brother came out as non-binary/transgender and showed me his jewlerry and make up. Well that is enough tea for today! I just kinda left this post alone for days because I didn't know how to react, but wow, that is so out-of-character. I haven't brought it up again since we talked about it, instead sticking to more mundane topics. I still haven't really absorbed it. You think you know a person, eh... Apparently my sister knew for two years already. No wonder she is so progressive. Apparently when she was 11 or 12 she had a crush on another girl, but he ended being a trans-man. Now she's pretty sure she's straight and was attracted to his "male-ness". Gender and sexuality is so weird, bruh.
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Post by Telso on Dec 17, 2020 6:16:04 GMT 10
2 genders, male & female, simple. Even nature doesn't agree. Why accepting this social construct?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 6:59:55 GMT 10
A lot of people don't understand how science works. They think it's a collection of facts, it's not. The scientific method is when you come up with a theory, and if that theory is good at making accurate predictions and is easy to test, then it's accepted as science. If a theory cannot make accurate predictions or is easily proven false, then either something about the theory is missing, or it's false and unscientific.
People used to think disease spread by bad air, called miasma. This was 100% accepted by the scientific establishment, and it seemed to work: people cleaned up city streets, built more open spaces, compartmentalized the bathroom and garbage disposal away from living spaces, and disease spread dropped dramatically. This was completely scientific: someone posited that bad air caused disease, bad air was removed, and disease went away. This theory was very good at making predictions, and you were considered a SJW buffoon if you didn't believe in it. But there were things science could not explain, and that is why were people falling ill from waterborne diseases such as cholera and why did disease like plague seemingly spread geographically. Why is quarantine effective at reducing disease spread, isn't contagion just pseudoscience? Someone posited that instead diseases came from germs. This went on to explain the world much better than miasma and is now what we use today. And just like that "science" was science no longer.
The theory of "chromosomes is the ultimate determiner of your gender" appears to work. It's perhaps true for nearly 100% of people. But it cannot explain why transgender people have existed for thousands of years in known human history, across different cultures, isolated geographies, and even present-day hunter gatherer societies. People think they're being scientific when they say "no, the universe is wrong and I'm right!", they're not. You cannot change the universe to conform to your scientific theory, it's your scientific theory that should be explaining the universe. If it can't do that then it's not scientific, something about it is missing or wrong. We don't even know what makes someone gay. We have millions of gays as a sample size and yet the genes or environment for gayness cannot be determined. And we have people who are acting like they know everything there is to know about gender. That's not science, that can only be called naivety.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Feb 1, 2022 7:23:15 GMT 10
i have so many thoughts on this but i don’t feel like typing it out
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Post by nightmarefarm on Feb 1, 2022 9:43:53 GMT 10
There's 56 genders. My favourite gender is attack helicopter.
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Post by 10slover on Feb 2, 2022 5:57:10 GMT 10
There's 56 genders. My favourite gender is attack helicopter. 2016 called, they want their regurgitated joke back
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Post by 10slover on Feb 2, 2022 6:02:22 GMT 10
One thing i really don't like it's thid xenogender thing
Argh, wtf are these people on with "emoji pronouns" they make non-cisgender people look like absolute clowns
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Feb 5, 2022 11:56:43 GMT 10
Ok so I’m finally getting around to doing this, I’m going to use this thread to explain my thoughts on gender, sex, whatever. So I don’t believe that there’s a male brain and female brain. There can be slightly masculinized and slightly feminized brains but the “male brain” and “female brain” is a myth. Studies have shown that homosexual males have slightly feminized brains and homosexual females have slightly masculinized brains. Most trans people are heterosexual though (transwomen who are into women and transmen who are into men) so the idea that all trans people have brains of the opposite sex is nonsense. The people who identify as “transbians” or “gay transmen” are usually fetishists and do not have the same motivations for transitioning as homosexual trans people (transwomen who are into men and transmen who are into women). So do I believe that there’s more than two genders? Idk, define gender. Let me know if you want to hear my personal experiences with gender because that’s a long story lmao
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Post by al on Feb 5, 2022 12:20:50 GMT 10
I haven't really changed my opinion in three and a half years as much as I've added on to it. The more I've been learning about this movement and the more I've just learned about life in general, the less I believe in gender at all, instead with a focus on the biological sexes. Intersex people of course exist but from everything I've seen, most do not enjoy being brought into this discussion as some kind of validation for genders beyond male and female. I do not believe there is a woman feeling nor a man feeling. I believe gender dysphoria is a mental health condition that causes pain to those afflicted, and if adults wish to use medical intervention in attempt to lessen it, then that is their choice to make. I also believe there are many people in general who feel uncomfortable with their given bodies, often related to secondary sex characteristics, and that some of those people are being coerced into believing it is related to their gender. I believe there are situations in which sex is relevant and can be belittled by notions of perceived gender. While I do believe many items of clothing and other aspects of appearance were designed to flatter and be appropriate for the wearer's sex, I do not believe we today have reason to limit what a person chooses to adorn themselves with in relation to their sex. I have come to better recognize that we have bodies, and being ignorant of them is not true progress. However, recognizing what is just "stuff" continues to feel like the way.
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