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Post by al on Sept 10, 2018 5:44:00 GMT 10
This was probably one of the most polarizing trends of the late 00's: Ed Hardy. The initial concept was quite genius really, transforming this iconic tattoo design into clothing and various other goods. Starting out, it was different and sold very well. Ed Hardy was everywhere. It seemed to hit just past the popularity of mid 00's hardcore and post punk however that it got quickly got associated with divorced dad wannabes, bratty kids, and eventually Jersey Shore. The cool factor was short lived.    Ten years later, remnants are surprisingly still around. How bad do you think this trend was?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 10, 2018 10:32:05 GMT 10
I actually don't remember that being a trend, to be honest. Maybe it was only popular in the US? As for my thoughts on the trend, I don't think it looks too bad, although I would never wear anything like that. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 11:07:21 GMT 10
I think that this trend peaked in around 2008-2009 and declined sharply afterward.
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Post by al on Sept 10, 2018 13:28:54 GMT 10
I actually don't remember that being a trend, to be honest. Maybe it was only popular in the US? As for my thoughts on the trend, I don't think it looks too bad, although I would never wear anything like that. Really?? Yeah these prints were slapped on everything for a couple years, from sneakers to hats to baby onesies to cologne. I actually found them interesting until it got so oversaturated. Plus the "ed hardy douche" as they became known couldn't wear just one item at a time, that was perhaps the most comical part.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 10, 2018 13:37:05 GMT 10
Really?? Yeah these prints were slapped on everything for a couple years, from sneakers to hats to baby onesies to cologne. I actually found them interesting until it got so oversaturated. Plus the "ed hardy douche" as they became known couldn't wear just one item at a time, that was perhaps the most comical part. That's really interesting to hear, because I just can't remember ever coming across any Ed Hardy clothing or merchandise at the time. I guess there may have been a few people who wore Ed Hardy t-shirts and I simply didn't see them out in public, but I definitely don't remember it being a trend.
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Post by al on Sept 10, 2018 13:47:58 GMT 10
It's also possible it was relegated more to the club scene. I don't remember any of my peers wearing it but I would see it on Gen X perhaps most frequently. A very "Vegas" look. Back when Facebook used to be all about "fan" and then "like" pages circa 2009, "Wearing Ed Hardy makes you a douche" was one of the more popular ones. That and "Miley Cyrus, how do you move your hips like 'yeah?'" lol but that is a different topic.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 10, 2018 14:05:13 GMT 10
It's also possible it was relegated more to the club scene. I don't remember any of my peers wearing it but I would see it on Gen X perhaps most frequently. A very "Vegas" look. Back when Facebook used to be all about "fan" and then "like" pages circa 2009, "Wearing Ed Hardy makes you a douche" was one of the more popular ones. That and "Miley Cyrus, how do you move your hips like 'yeah?'" lol but that is a different topic. Yeah, that's true. It is a style of clothing that most likely would have been very popular in the club scene at the time. Lol. I missed out on that era of Facebook, because I didn't join the site until July 2011. By the time I joined, "fan" and "like" pages weren't as popular as they were just a few years earlier.
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Post by al on Sept 10, 2018 14:34:51 GMT 10
It's also possible it was relegated more to the club scene. I don't remember any of my peers wearing it but I would see it on Gen X perhaps most frequently. A very "Vegas" look. Back when Facebook used to be all about "fan" and then "like" pages circa 2009, "Wearing Ed Hardy makes you a douche" was one of the more popular ones. That and "Miley Cyrus, how do you move your hips like 'yeah?'" lol but that is a different topic. Yeah, that's true. It is a style of clothing that most likely would have been very popular in the club scene at the time. Lol. I missed out on that era of Facebook, because I didn't join the site until July 2011. By the time I joined, "fan" and "like" pages weren't as popular as they were just a few years earlier. That's just about when they started to get annoying. They basically all became spam pages that would fill your feed with useless crap, leading to their gradual removal from everyone's profile. Then once they switched over to timeline, I want to say over early 2012 though some may have even gotten it in late 2011, the site just went downhill in general imo. They started with the ticker and the feed went out of order, and you could see what everyone was doing all the time. This censored everybody and the website hasn't been nearly as raucous since.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 10, 2018 17:42:08 GMT 10
That's just about when they started to get annoying. They basically all became spam pages that would fill your feed with useless crap, leading to their gradual removal from everyone's profile. Then once they switched over to timeline, I want to say over early 2012 though some may have even gotten it in late 2011, the site just went downhill in general imo. They started with the ticker and the feed went out of order, and you could see what everyone was doing all the time. This censored everybody and the website hasn't been nearly as raucous since. Yeah, I agree. I remember a lot of people were opposed to timeline being introduced to Facebook and if i'm not mistaken, it even made it onto the news. It didn't really interest me too much either. Speaking of Facebook declining, it's funny that you should mention that, because at work this afternoon, I actually overheard a group of 9-10 year old kids who were talking about trying to find someone (presumably one of their friends) on Facebook. I wouldn't have thought that Facebook would still be popular among kids, so I was really surprised when I overheard that! It definitely isn't as popular as it used to be though. Snapchat is the most popular social media site among High School kids nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 1:10:39 GMT 10
It's also possible it was relegated more to the club scene. I don't remember any of my peers wearing it but I would see it on Gen X perhaps most frequently. A very "Vegas" look. Back when Facebook used to be all about "fan" and then "like" pages circa 2009, "Wearing Ed Hardy makes you a douche" was one of the more popular ones. That and "Miley Cyrus, how do you move your hips like 'yeah?'" lol but that is a different topic. I really only saw it on late Gen Xers (think of those born from around 1975 to 1980).
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Post by al on Sept 11, 2018 10:51:03 GMT 10
Yeah, I agree. I remember a lot of people were opposed to timeline being introduced to Facebook and if i'm not mistaken, it even made it onto the news. It didn't really interest me too much either. Speaking of Facebook declining, it's funny that you should mention that, because at work this afternoon, I actually overheard a group of 9-10 year old kids who were talking about trying to find someone (presumably one of their friends) on Facebook. I wouldn't have thought that Facebook would still be popular among kids, so I was really surprised when I overheard that! It definitely isn't as popular as it used to be though. Snapchat is the most popular social media site among High School kids nowadays. That surprises me as well that kids that young would be Facebook. Maybe the parents allow it since they're on there too? For some reason it surprises me to still see new accounts, like my cousin who just graduated only made one this spring. I see a lot of very young kids on insta. I decided to have a personal vendetta against snapchat my senior year and I honestly can't even remember why anymore. It's one of those things I see being fun when you're in school but I don't even know what I would post now. I think timeline is one of those things where you wouldn't know the difference if you weren't extremely used to the old style. Though I do think its legacy on the site has been the transformation into a more family friendly platform that acts more like an address book than a place for much candor.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 11, 2018 19:53:39 GMT 10
That surprises me as well that kids that young would be Facebook. Maybe the parents allow it since they're on there too? For some reason it surprises me to still see new accounts, like my cousin who just graduated only made one this spring. I see a lot of very young kids on insta. I decided to have a personal vendetta against snapchat my senior year and I honestly can't even remember why anymore. It's one of those things I see being fun when you're in school but I don't even know what I would post now. I think timeline is one of those things where you wouldn't know the difference if you weren't extremely used to the old style. Though I do think its legacy on the site has been the transformation into a more family friendly platform that acts more like an address book than a place for much candor. Possibly. Even though, I still wouldn't have thought that Facebook would even be all that appealing to kids, especially in light of the privacy breaches and the fact that it's thought of as being more of a Millennial site. I've even heard a few people refer to Facebook as an "old peoples website". On that next point, that's something i'm surprised to hear about as well. Everyone I personally know has had a Facebook account for 5-10 years and you'd think that the vast majority of people (who are interested in Facebook) would have already joined the site by now. Is there even really much of an incentive now for people to create an account on Facebook? I know a lot of people would do it just to stay in contact with family and friends, but sites such as Twitter and Instagram would likely be more enticing, IMO. That's interesting to hear! I've never actually used Snapchat (or Instagram) before, so i'm not really too familiar with it. I do agree though that it's one of those sites which would mainly be appealing to kids/teens. When people graduate from High School, they generally lose contact with most (or all) of the people they were friends with, so Snapchat is pretty much made redundant as a result. It's not as if someone would just randomly send a photo to an ex-school friend. Absolutely. Not only that, but most people likely wouldn't even have an issue with the Timeline design. The transition to the Timeline layout didn't really concern me too much, because I only joined a few months before it was introduced and I wasn't too accustomed to the old format. I could see though how it wouldn't have went down too well for people who had an account on Facebook for several years prior to it's introduction.
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Post by al on Sept 12, 2018 12:08:04 GMT 10
On that next point, that's something i'm surprised to hear about as well. Everyone I personally know has had a Facebook account for 5-10 years and you'd think that the vast majority of people (who are interested in Facebook) would have already joined the site by now. Is there even really much of an incentive now for people to create an account on Facebook? I know a lot of people would do it just to stay in contact with family and friends, but sites such as Twitter and Instagram would likely be more enticing, IMO. That's interesting to hear! I've never actually used Snapchat (or Instagram) before, so i'm not really too familiar with it. I do agree though that it's one of those sites which would mainly be appealing to kids/teens. When people graduate from High School, they generally lose contact with most (or all) of the people they were friends with, so Snapchat is pretty much made redundant as a result. It's not as if someone would just randomly send a photo to an ex-school friend. I would assume this is why he joined, and basically why a lot of younger people who spend more time on other platforms keep their profiles. I can verify that when I deactivated (and refused to make a snapchat), I pretty much lost contact with about everybody, even those with my number. What I like about instagram is the ability to just browse, more like a regular site. Though I'm not a huge fan of features like live and stories that disappear, because it's part of what I dislike about snapchat (and the facebook feed that's not in real time), and that's the sense of urgency. It used to make me very stressed out feeling like I had to always be on, otherwise risk missing something. It does seem like snapchat has become more about messaging anyway, but for my personal use it doesn't really provide enough additional to join. I mean, we've all been using messengers for how many years now? I don't get what sets it apart.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 12, 2018 19:13:32 GMT 10
I would assume this is why he joined, and basically why a lot of younger people who spend more time on other platforms keep their profiles. I can verify that when I deactivated (and refused to make a snapchat), I pretty much lost contact with about everybody, even those with my number. What I like about instagram is the ability to just browse, more like a regular site. Though I'm not a huge fan of features like live and stories that disappear, because it's part of what I dislike about snapchat (and the facebook feed that's not in real time), and that's the sense of urgency. It used to make me very stressed out feeling like I had to always be on, otherwise risk missing something. It does seem like snapchat has become more about messaging anyway, but for my personal use it doesn't really provide enough additional to join. I mean, we've all been using messengers for how many years now? I don't get what sets it apart. I agree. It's interesting to hear that you deactivated your Facebook account. Deciding to de-active your account must have been a bit of a hard decision? I very rarely go on Facebook myself (social media just doesn't interest me, to be honest), but the exact same thing would happen to me if I were to ever deactivate my Facebook account. It's my primary method of communication between my friends and I. In essence, it just emphasizes how reliant people have become on social media. People shouldn't have to deal with the dilemma of having to maintain a presence on social media just to sustain some level of communication with others. If people want to leave social media, they should be able to without necessarily having to take that into consideration. That's understandable. It's a shame that most social media sites revolve around that style of format. Even Twitter pretty much requires you to check in regularly in order to stay up to date with any new tweets/posts. I'm not really sure, but if I were to guess, I think what sets Snapchat apart is the ability and conveniency to directly send photos/videos as messages. A couple of my friends have Snapchat accounts and I know they quite often use it to take pictures of whatever they're doing and send it to other people with a caption on the photo. In contrast, on Messenger, you need to actually upload the photo into your message and then the text is included separately. That might not be the reason for it, but I've noticed that a lot of people use the site basically just for that purpose.
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Post by al on Sept 14, 2018 14:20:28 GMT 10
I agree. It's interesting to hear that you deactivated your Facebook account. Deciding to de-active your account must have been a bit of a hard decision? I very rarely go on Facebook myself (social media just doesn't interest me, to be honest), but the exact same thing would happen to me if I were to ever deactivate my Facebook account. It's my primary method of communication between my friends and I. In essence, it just emphasizes how reliant people have become on social media. People shouldn't have to deal with the dilemma of having to maintain a presence on social media just to sustain some level of communication with others. If people want to leave social media, they should be able to without necessarily having to take that into consideration. That's understandable. It's a shame that most social media sites revolve around that style of format. Even Twitter pretty much requires you to check in regularly in order to stay up to date with any new tweets/posts. I'm not really sure, but if I were to guess, I think what sets Snapchat apart is the ability and conveniency to directly send photos/videos as messages. A couple of my friends have Snapchat accounts and I know they quite often use it to take pictures of whatever they're doing and send it to other people with a caption on the photo. In contrast, on Messenger, you need to actually upload the photo into your message and then the text is included separately. That might not be the reason for it, but I've noticed that a lot of people use the site basically just for that purpose. I drastically decreased my facebook usage towards the end of 2013. Beyond my. G general irritation with the site as described, it was becoming a huge distraction from my school work. Yes my grades drastically improved lol I began getting all A's instead of C's. By then, a number of people were already leaving and it was getting a bit depressing seeing people's lives go down hill post high school. It was hard though, I would get really nosy and ask other people to show me things. Since I left it up, just didn't sign, I figured that someone could still message if they needed me and I would see it, or they had my number. It felt like a nice crutch. Well, I'm afraid my lack of activity made my existence easier to forget, even if I still remained at the bottom of everyone's friend list. They would "forget" to invite me to events, send me photos. One by one, they all dropped. I officially deactivated September 2016. Embarrassing as it is to admit, it was pretty emotional. Here I was now cutting off pretty much all contact for good. But I did it because I wasn't talking to anybody anyway. Now that I feel the responsibility of up keeping it is gone, I do ultimately prefer not using it anymore. But yeah I generally find social media to be quite stressful, when that's the antithesis of what it should be. It shouldn't be taken that seriously, and it's not fair how it traps people. I find that I much prefer using it in more the context of a forum, like this one; just to talk and whatnot, not having real life tabs kept on me.
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