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Post by al on Oct 22, 2018 7:58:01 GMT 10
I've been thinking about when fashion trends make their comeback, they are typically welcomed by different groups, or not as stigmatized as they were at first. I have to assume that this is because the public has gotten used to the look, and that the original hesitation was partially due to it being unfamiliar. As a society we are seeming to become increasingly less stringent regarding appearance as time goes on. You also have different generations in different age brackets as time progresses, who may take their past preferences and not adhere to old norms. I also think the coolness factor is something that's always changing. Once something is far out enough, it's in. It may seem daring and edgy to sport at first, but that typically equals followers soon enough.
Some examples:
Motorcycle jackets 50s-80s: Bikers, greasers, punks, tough or edgy crowd 10s: New staple, hipsters, toddlers, baby boomers
White trainers: 80s-90s: Athletic shoe, very casual 00s: Dads 10s: Trendy, high fashion, city cool, expensive
Chokers Y2k: Kids, teens, cheap jewelry, risque 10s: Legitimate accessory, trendy, adults
Unnatural hair color 80s-00s: Punks, goths, anti-establishment, shocking 10s: Cute, quirky, kids, moms, seniors
Ripped jeans 70s-90s: Rebellious, dirty, careless, unintentional 00s-10s: Trendy, designer, expensive, intentional
Sheer/mesh/fishnet clothing 80s-00s: Skanky, procative, cheap 10s: Fashion, all ages, legitimate clothing
Overalls 90s: Trendy 00s: Uncool and childish 10s: Trendy
More?
I think the same concept could also be applied to music as well. The Beatles might be one of the most obvious and wholesome (still) popular bands to listen to now, though we know that wasn't the case in the early 60's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 10:21:49 GMT 10
Some corrections I made:
Chokers 90's and Y2k: Rebellious, edgy, goth 10s: Trendy
Unnatural Hair color 80s-00s: Punks, goths, anti-establishment, shocking 10s: SJWs
Overalls 90's: Trendy 2000's: Uncool and childish 2010's: Dumb
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 10:25:50 GMT 10
Aviator eyeglasses 80's-c. 1995: Trendy, old people also wore it c. 1995-2017: Old people glasses 2017-present: Dumb trend
Polaroids 80's-early 00's: Standard camera Early 00's-2017: Outdated camera 2017-present: Dumb trend
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 22, 2018 11:33:54 GMT 10
Flannelette Shirts:
1990s - Early 2000s: Edgy, cool, alternative 2010s: Indie, sleek, stylish
I think flannelette shirts may be somewhat of an exception to this pattern, because even though people tend to primarily associate them with the '90s Grunge scene, they have actually been popular since at least the Early '70s. My Dad wore flannelette shirts when he was a kid during the Early-Mid '70s and a lot of other people wore them at the time as well.
However, on the same taken, there have been periods of time where flannelette shirts have gone out of fashion. I've got photos of me wearing flannel shirts in 2000/2001 and that would be because flannel shirts at the time were a residual effect of the '90s Grunge scene. However, I can't say that I have ever seen kids/toddlers wearing flannelette shirts in the time since then and you certainly wouldn't expect a toddler to wear one now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 13:30:54 GMT 10
Flannelette Shirts: 1990s - Early 2000s: Edgy, cool, alternative 2010s: Indie, sleek, stylish I think flannelette shirts may be somewhat of an exception to this pattern, because even though people tend to primarily associate them with the '90s Grunge scene, they have actually been popular since at least the Early '70s. My Dad wore flannelette shirts when he was a kid during the Early-Mid '70s and a lot of other people wore them at the time as well. However, on the same taken, there have been periods of time where flannelette shirts have gone out of fashion. I've got photos of me wearing flannel shirts in 2000/2001 and that would be because flannel shirts at the time were a residual effect of the '90s Grunge scene. However, I can't say that I have ever seen kids/toddlers wearing flannelette shirts in the time since then and you certainly wouldn't expect a toddler to wear one now. Do you think that Australia is behind the US when it comes to fashion trends? I always had this idea that grunge fashion died sometime in the 1997-1998 school year.
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Post by al on Oct 22, 2018 14:47:42 GMT 10
^Lol chokers for me are something I bought at the school store for a quarter in kindergarten.
As far as the flannels go, I think they've always been around in cold climates like mine, but just weren't trendy from the late 90's until the late 00's again. I really don't remember grunge being popular at all here, maybe a little in 97.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 22, 2018 15:13:23 GMT 10
Do you think that Australia is behind the US when it comes to fashion trends? I always had this idea that grunge fashion died sometime in the 1997-1998 school year. In most cases, no. There may be a very slight difference in terms of the longevity of a fashion trend (for instance, a fashion trend may last a few months longer here than in the US), but that's only natural, because fashion trends naturally differ from country to country. Our trends generally coincide with the trends in the United States. Grunge fashion didn't die out completely until as late as 2002, but that's because alternative-rock had a longer lifespan in Australia. In the United States, Grunge's time in the mainstream can pretty much be defined as 1991-1997, however here in Australia, the '90s alternative-rock scene emerged as early as Early 1991 (when Ratcat's smash-hit, "That Ain't Bad" was released) and remained in the mainstream until as late as 2002 (when Garbage and Silverchair had both Top-10 hits with "Cherry Lips" and "The Greatest View"). If you want an idea on what fashion trends were like here back in 1999, check out 1:59, 4:57 and 14:40 in the video below. It was basically a mixture of Y2K-Era fashion trends, as well as residual Grunge fashion from earlier in the decade. This is an open question to anyone, but does anyone else think that "Purina One" ad at 1:59 was actually produced in the US? Because the voices seem to be over-dubbed and the kids have baseball gear on; baseball isn't even popular here.
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Post by al on Oct 23, 2018 4:17:35 GMT 10
I can't find a US version but it's highly possible. It's weird for me hearing those ads
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 23, 2018 10:07:10 GMT 10
I can't find a US version but it's highly possible. It's weird for me hearing those ads Yep. Even though there isn't an American version of that ad online, i've just got a feeling that it may have originally been an American commercial which aired sometime in 1998 or Early 1999. The over-dubbing of the voice (which doesn't seem to be completely in-sync with the father's mouth movements) and the "baseball" scene suggests to me that it wasn't actually produced here. It's hard to say though. I'm not surprised, lol. It's not often you hear Australian accents on American TV, so I can completely understand why it would be strange to watch those ads.
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