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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 6, 2018 20:21:08 GMT 10
I was watching this interview from 2008 earlier this evening and it got me thinking about what can change over five years. I can remember thinking back in 2013 that 2008 still felt recent, but there were more differences between the two years than there were similarities. Yet, I don't have the same mindset when thinking about 2013 from a 2018 perspective. Even though we are less than two months away from the start of 2019, i'll be honest, it still hasn't really occurred to me that 2013 is almost six years ago. Six years ago! Seriously, where has that time gone? I mean, when you think about it, 2013 isn't really all that different from the present time. I think that's why it still feels so recent. There are differences between the two years, of course, but if someone from 2018 were to be teleported back to the world of 2013, it wouldn't be all that much of a shock to them. Selfies and hashtags were around, EDM had overtaken Electro-pop as the dominant genre in the mainstream, Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead were some of the biggest shows on air, Instagram had become popular and streaming services were commonplace. When you perceive it from the bigger picture and ignore the relatively miniscule differences between the two years, they both belong to the one era. If you were to travel from 2013 to 2008, on the other hand, it would almost seem like another world: * Emo and "post" post-grunge were some of the most popular genres in music. Guitar-driven rock music was absent from the mainstream in 2013. * iPads and tablets weren't around yet. * It was still essentially a pre-smartphone world. Even though iPhones and Blackberries were around at the time, the majority of people did not own a smartphone device. * Clothing was baggier. * Many people still consumed entertainment through physical means (e.g renting a DVD, listening to a CD). All it does is emphasise the cultural and technological stagnation of the 2010s. It makes me wonder if the world of 2023 will really be all that different from the present time. As the world becomes more and more fragmented, it seems like the magnitude of changes is becoming less significant. Changes to pop culture and technology were much more influential in the past, because everyone was more unified and monoculture greater defined the mainstream. I can only see the significant differences between years decreasing as time progresses, especially once virtual reality develops in such a way that it allows people to escape from reality and live in their own worlds. Anyway, does 2013 still feel recent to you or do you think the year does feel as though it was almost six years ago?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 20:52:00 GMT 10
2013 feels recent to me. 2008 feels recent to me! Make time stop, like it has in my head
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Post by username on Nov 7, 2018 2:06:34 GMT 10
Yeah, I call anything 2013+ "recent memory" You were quite right with saying how 2008-2013 saw considerably more development than 2013-2018, and that is particularly why 2013 feels so recent and 2008 so long ago (though 2008 feels so long ago probably due to how young I am ) It's quite funny to think how 2007-2013 had so much development compared to times since, and (to some capacity) times before
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Post by Cassie on Nov 7, 2018 4:09:20 GMT 10
2013+ to me feels recent. While 2007-2012 to me feels dated. It has certainly been a long time since 2010 and a pretty good amount of time since 2012.
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Post by Cassie on Nov 7, 2018 4:15:08 GMT 10
I find 2013 to have little in common at all with even 2012, let alone 2010/2011. Yes, there were some early 10s influences, but culturally i've always thought 2013 as a whole to be mid-2010s. I looked at a video called "Remember 2013" and it shows the events of the year and the pop culture too. I always found 2013 to be different from 2012 in many ways.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 7, 2018 4:31:06 GMT 10
2013 felt like a while ago. A lot of stuff from 2013 can be considered dated.
The EDM from 2013 sounds different from now. Most of 2013 didn't have the IOS 7 look until September. Pop was the dominant genre. It was an Obama year. Trump was irrelevant. It was politically moderate. The last hurrah for Electropop/Dubstep. Top Text Bottom Text memes were very popular while dank memes didn't exist. First Person Shooters and Minecraft were the top games. Fashion was more neon. Traditional Hip Hop still dominated over Trap. It was the last year where early 2010s dominated over mid 2010s.
If you ignore these differences, you can consider 2009-2018 to be one big era.
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Post by #Infinity on Nov 7, 2018 10:17:45 GMT 10
2013 feels quite old to me, frankly. Even 2014 seems like awhile ago. Maybe it's because I was still in college, or perhaps it was due to the alt-right not being a known thing yet, or because the pop charts were dominated by flashy dance pop rather than Man of Steel pop and trap, but whatever the case, 2013 feels quite removed from the present and closer to 2008 than to today.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 7, 2018 11:39:33 GMT 10
Yeah, I call anything 2013+ "recent memory" You were quite right with saying how 2008-2013 saw considerably more development than 2013-2018, and that is particularly why 2013 feels so recent and 2008 so long ago (though 2008 feels so long ago probably due to how young I am ) It's quite funny to think how 2007-2013 had so much development compared to times since, and (to some capacity) times before I agree with you, 2008 does feel pretty far removed from the present time. The way in which people go about their day to day lives has changed quite significantly since then. Back in 2008, most people still carried physical cash with them; nowadays, people primarily make purchases through Paywave and credit/debit cards. We have essentially become a cashless society. Also, mobile phones were nowhere near as prolific back then as they are now. The majority of people carried mobiles with them, sure, but they didn't spend most of their time staring at their mobile phones and going on social media. If you ignore these differences, you can consider 2009-2018 to be one big era. I'm not sure if I would group 2009 with the current era, to be honest. Not only was 2009 a 2000s cultural year, but smartphones were not even commonplace at the time and I think that's a pretty big distinction. 2013 feels quite old to me, frankly. Even 2014 seems like awhile ago. Maybe it's because I was still in college, or perhaps it was due to the alt-right not being a known thing yet, or because the pop charts were dominated by flashy dance pop rather than Man of Steel pop and trap, but whatever the case, 2013 feels quite removed from the present and closer to 2008 than to today. That's interesting to hear about. I'm not sure if I would personally agree that 2013 has more in common with 2008 than it does with the present time, but I can see your point of view.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 7, 2018 12:17:45 GMT 10
2013 feels quite old to me, frankly. Even 2014 seems like awhile ago. Maybe it's because I was still in college, or perhaps it was due to the alt-right not being a known thing yet, or because the pop charts were dominated by flashy dance pop rather than Man of Steel pop and trap, but whatever the case, 2013 feels quite removed from the present and closer to 2008 than to today. I agree with this. I remember in the first half of 2013, less than half of the people in my school used slide phones and Blackberry phones. I remember seeing some scene kids at my school. Even trap music in 2013 sounds way different from today's trap since it was more bombastic and less minimalist.
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Post by Telso on Nov 7, 2018 21:21:51 GMT 10
2013 is doing a good job at being "5 years ago", very recognizable yet things certainly have changed since.
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Post by Telso on Nov 9, 2018 3:25:12 GMT 10
You were quite right with saying how 2008-2013 saw considerably more development than 2013-2018 Makes sense since there was a change of decade between 2008 and 2013, while there wasn't in the period 2013-2018
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Post by mwalker96 on Nov 9, 2018 6:43:05 GMT 10
You were quite right with saying how 2008-2013 saw considerably more development than 2013-2018 Makes sense since there was a change of decade between 2008 and 2013, while there wasn't in the period 2013-2018 Funny how you mention 2008, I remember back in 2013 reading a thread on inthe00s abouy2008 and how it's starting to feel dated. 2013 has felt dated to me since about 2015 since it was my last full year of high school, 7th gen gaming was still considered current most of the year (despite the Wii u already being out), smartphones were much smaller and Obama was just entering his 2nd term.
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Post by mwalker96 on Nov 9, 2018 6:43:30 GMT 10
Makes sense since there was a change of decade between 2008 and 2013, while there wasn't in the period 2013-2018 Funny how you mention 2008, I remember back in 2013 reading a thread on inthe00s about 2008 and how it's starting to feel dated. 2013 has felt dated to me since about 2015 since it was my last full year of high school, 7th gen gaming was still considered current most of the year (despite the Wii u already being out), smartphones were much smaller and Obama was just entering his 2nd term.
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Post by dount2005 on Nov 9, 2018 11:04:58 GMT 10
Were you into pop culture at all then and now? If that's a yes, the differences are easier to notice.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 9, 2018 11:19:11 GMT 10
Were you into pop culture at all then and now? If that's a yes, the differences are easier to notice. I've got to be honest, I only followed pop culture loosely back in 2013, however I still know/remember what the most popular trends were at the time. I am generally more in-tune with pop culture now, but that's mostly because of me posting on/visiting Popedia and checking the Top-40 music charts once a week.
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