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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 4, 2019 20:35:52 GMT 10
There seems to be a general consensus that 2009 is still largely connected to the present day. Many people point to the fact that smartphones and social media were around at the time to support their theory. However, I personally think that 2009 is noticeably outdated in quite a number of ways and I certainly wouldn't say that it's largely connected to the present day. Pop culture and society have changed a lot over the past ten years.
Anyway, the purpose of this thread is to debunk the idea that 2009 is still "modern". Feel free to post anything which emphasises how outdated 2009 really is.
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In many parts of the world, this was one of the Top-10 best selling singles of 2009. Not only was this music video shot in 4:3 standard definition, but the lyrics even contain the words "'I'm so 3008, you're so 2000 and late". Everything about it is outdated. Also, to put into perspective, The Black-Eyed Peas's haven't had a worldwide hit in over eight years.
Here's a TV commercial from Late 2009 which promotes the WWE as now being in widescreen. Also, this was recorded onto VHS.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 21:36:40 GMT 10
I could have sworn Boom Boom Pow was a 2008 song. I thought lyrics were "I'm so 2008, you're so 2000 and late". (they probably originally were since the song was recorded that year) 
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Post by Cassie on Jan 5, 2019 6:05:23 GMT 10
I was seven and the only difference I really noticed between 2008 and 2009 is the kids programming. Oh and Obama
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 8:01:04 GMT 10
I could have sworn Boom Boom Pow was a 2008 song. I thought lyrics were "I'm so 2008, you're so 2000 and late". (they probably originally were since the song was recorded that year) I remember downloading a version of the song off Limewire in 2008 that actually did say "I'm so 2008 you're so 2000 and late." The version later released a single changed it to 3008.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 8:06:20 GMT 10
There seems to be a general consensus that 2009 is still largely connected to the present day. Many people point to the fact that smartphones and social media were around at the time to support their theory. However, I personally think that 2009 is noticeably outdated in quite a number of ways and I certainly wouldn't say that it's largely connected to the present day. Pop culture and society have changed a lot over the past ten years. Anyway, the purpose of this thread is to debunk the idea that 2009 is still "modern". Feel free to post anything which emphasises how outdated 2009 really is. I agree with you completely. I personally felt that 2009's influence could be felt up until about the middle of 2017. However, the Trump era has really changed society substantially and the past two years have moved us significantly away from the zeitgeist/culture of the Obama era. 2019 feels like a very different world from 2009. A much more angry, hateful, and downright ignorant world than we had in 2009. In terms of music, 2009 was all about electropop and that declined in 2013. If you really want a wake-up call to how dated 2009 is, watch the first season of Glee.
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Post by Telso on Jan 5, 2019 8:21:01 GMT 10
I could have sworn Boom Boom Pow was a 2008 song. I thought lyrics were "I'm so 2008, you're so 2000 and late". (they probably originally were since the song was recorded that year) How is this even possible  The incessant Boom Boom Pow/I Gotta Feeling onslaught is so 2009 it hurts.
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Jan 5, 2019 12:02:04 GMT 10
2009 feels like a lifetime ago... I can't believe Obama's inauguration is almost 10! 
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2019 13:35:30 GMT 10
I agree with you completely. I personally felt that 2009's influence could be felt up until about the middle of 2017. However, the Trump era has really changed society substantially and the past two years have moved us significantly away from the zeitgeist/culture of the Obama era. 2019 feels like a very different world from 2009. A much more angry, hateful, and downright ignorant world than we had in 2009. In terms of music, 2009 was all about electropop and that declined in 2013. If you really want a wake-up call to how dated 2009 is, watch the first season of Glee. I see what you are saying and I do generally agree with you, but i'm interested to know what influences you think were still around up until the middle of 2017? I'm not sure if I would even consider 2013-2016 as having had strong 2009 influences, to be honest, even though Barrack Obama was the US President during those years. I mean, I agree that Trump's inauguration was an "end of an era" so to speak, but 2009 had already felt like a very different world for quite sometime before then. That's true. Also, the Emo scene (and rock music in general) was still around in 2009 as well. "Gives You Hell" by the All American Rejects was one of the biggest hits that year.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2019 13:41:18 GMT 10
I could have sworn Boom Boom Pow was a 2008 song. I thought lyrics were "I'm so 2008, you're so 2000 and late". (they probably originally were since the song was recorded that year) How is this even possible The incessant Boom Boom Pow/I Gotta Feeling onslaught is so 2009 it hurts. Oh, you're not wrong! By October of 2009, I was so sick of hearing "I Gotta Feeling" on the radio and on TV that I never wanted to listen to another Black Eyed Peas song again.  It was simply unavoidable back in Late 2009. I remember "I Gotta Feeling" exploded in popularity around the same time that I went on a holiday to the Gold Coast (which was late September/early October).
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2019 13:44:22 GMT 10
2009 feels like a lifetime ago... I can't believe Obama's inauguration is almost 10! Yep. It's interesting to look back on the coverage of his inauguration. I mean, the footage even looks old and outdated, IMO. Barack Obama didn't have any gray hair back then either.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 6, 2019 2:21:03 GMT 10
I agree with you completely. I personally felt that 2009's influence could be felt up until about the middle of 2017. However, the Trump era has really changed society substantially and the past two years have moved us significantly away from the zeitgeist/culture of the Obama era. 2019 feels like a very different world from 2009. A much more angry, hateful, and downright ignorant world than we had in 2009. In terms of music, 2009 was all about electropop and that declined in 2013. If you really want a wake-up call to how dated 2009 is, watch the first season of Glee. I see what you are saying and I do generally agree with you, but i'm interested to know what influences you think were still around up until the middle of 2017? I'm not sure if I would even consider 2013-2016 as having had strong 2009 influences, to be honest, even though Barrack Obama was the US President during those years. I mean, I agree that Trump's inauguration was an "end of an era" so to speak, but 2009 had already felt like a very different world for quite sometime before then. That's true. Also, the Emo scene (and rock music in general) was still around in 2009 as well. "Gives You Hell" by the All American Rejects was one of the biggest hits that year. As transitional as 2013 is, it was probably the last year that can be related to 2009. The iPhone still had that old IOS look. It was the last year that electropop had any presence. Teens were still using Facebook. Lady Gaga, Kesha, Eminem, Britney Spears, will.i.am, and Miley Cyrus has chart success.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 6, 2019 2:21:19 GMT 10
I agree with you completely. I personally felt that 2009's influence could be felt up until about the middle of 2017. However, the Trump era has really changed society substantially and the past two years have moved us significantly away from the zeitgeist/culture of the Obama era. 2019 feels like a very different world from 2009. A much more angry, hateful, and downright ignorant world than we had in 2009. In terms of music, 2009 was all about electropop and that declined in 2013. If you really want a wake-up call to how dated 2009 is, watch the first season of Glee. I see what you are saying and I do generally agree with you, but i'm interested to know what influences you think were still around up until the middle of 2017? I'm not sure if I would even consider 2013-2016 as having had strong 2009 influences, to be honest, even though Barrack Obama was the US President during those years. I mean, I agree that Trump's inauguration was an "end of an era" so to speak, but 2009 had already felt like a very different world for quite sometime before then. That's true. Also, the Emo scene (and rock music in general) was still around in 2009 as well. "Gives You Hell" by the All American Rejects was one of the biggest hits that year. As transitional as 2013 is, it was probably the last year that can be related to 2009. The iPhone still had that old IOS look. It was the last year that electropop had any presence. Teens were still using Facebook. Lady Gaga, Kesha, Eminem, Britney Spears, will.i.am, and Miley Cyrus has chart success.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 14:02:32 GMT 10
I agree with mc98 that 2013 was the last year to really have strong ties to 2009 for reasons he already listed. However I would say there were echoes of that era that lasted until mid-2017. I would say Obama and the more liberal culture that came out of the late 2000s was a big part of that. That died in mid 2017. Hipster culture, though it really went mainstream nationally around 2012-13ish, has its roots in the late 2000s. Everyone is correct that music changed in 2013 and was different in the mid '10s but I think the difference is overstated. Though electropop declined, many of the other stars of the electropop era remained relevant from 2013-16. Drake, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Flo Rida, Taylor Swift, and Justin Bieber were HUGE through the mid '10s. Another big reason is that 2017 was the year that the "coming of age" generation began to shift from Millennials to Gen Z. Even as late as 2015 and 2016, Millennials were still driving pop culture and that itself gives the era ties back to the late 2000s.
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Post by Telso on Jan 8, 2019 17:34:37 GMT 10
I remember that people back then were saying how Lady Gaga's "Poker Face" video was bizarre and cutting-edge. It definitely lost its shine a bit and far more over-the-top videos later made it quite cute in comparison. Drake, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Flo Rida, Taylor Swift, and Justin Bieber were HUGE through the mid '10s.. Sure, but then again they all pretty much changed genres. Justin Bieber went on the Tropical House boat, Taylor Swift made silly brass-led Dance-Pop and serious Synthpop, Nicki Minaj stop doing songs like "Super Bass" and "Starships" and focused on the Hip Hop, Flo Rida made a terrible song in 2016 that sounds nothing like his early 10s stuff, ...
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 8, 2019 19:32:22 GMT 10
I agree with mc98 that 2013 was the last year to really have strong ties to 2009 for reasons he already listed. However I would say there were echoes of that era that lasted until mid-2017. I would say Obama and the more liberal culture that came out of the late 2000s was a big part of that. That died in mid 2017. Hipster culture, though it really went mainstream nationally around 2012-13ish, has its roots in the late 2000s. Everyone is correct that music changed in 2013 and was different in the mid '10s but I think the difference is overstated. Though electropop declined, many of the other stars of the electropop era remained relevant from 2013-16. Drake, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Flo Rida, Taylor Swift, and Justin Bieber were HUGE through the mid '10s. Another big reason is that 2017 was the year that the "coming of age" generation began to shift from Millennials to Gen Z. Even as late as 2015 and 2016, Millennials were still driving pop culture and that itself gives the era ties back to the late 2000s. Sorry, I disagree. You can find "ties" and similarities from any two pairs of years if you search hard enough, but that doesn't necessarily make them relevant. They would be minor at best. Like I mentioned earlier, 2009 and 2013 were already two very different worlds. The only "ties" between two years that should hold any sort of significance are the changes in the political world, IMO, because they are arguably the only sources of information that give a clear indication of the progression of social values and customs in the greater world. I would strongly advise against using pop culture as a source to determine the lifespan of influences from a certain year. For starters, it doesn't make any sense to base the longevity of influences on a handful of artists achieving hits in the following years and it completely ignores the fact that pop culture (and society in general) can significantly change within not just a few years, but even months. I mean, by that argument, you could argue that the year 2000 was the last year to have ties with 1983, due to Madonna and U2 achieving hits with "Music" and "Beautiful Day" respectively. It sounds comical. Besides, musicians can change their sound and approach to music over the course of their careers. The Beatles went from skiffle to psychedelic rock, Michael Jackson changed from R&B to pop, Linkin Park went from Nu-Metal to electronic-rock etc. How can you say that 2017 had echos of 2009 based on Drake, Taylor Swift and Flo Rida still being relevant? They're not producing the same music as they were back then. Also, what about other 2017 Top-40 artists like Post-Malone, Dua Lipa and Shawn Mendes? They were all unknown in the music world back in 2009.
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The incessant Boom Boom Pow/I Gotta Feeling onslaught is so 2009 it hurts.
It was simply unavoidable back in Late 2009. I remember "I Gotta Feeling" exploded in popularity around the same time that I went on a holiday to the Gold Coast (which was late September/early October).