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Post by grace on Jun 17, 2019 8:52:48 GMT 10
I am pro choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 22:46:21 GMT 10
That's fair comment, Rainbow, but nothing will ever change my mind.
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Post by rainbow on Nov 4, 2019 0:50:44 GMT 10
After reading some arguments about abortion recently and being open-minded to opposing opinions, my mind has changed (yet again lmao) on this.
I'm the type of person who doesn't like a lot of government interference in my life. I feel like it should be up to the individual what they want to do, so by that logic it would be logically consistent for me to be pro-choice, since it would be up to the individual and not making the choice for women as a whole.
I'm still pro-life for myself. I probably wouldn't get an abortion myself because I feel like I'd regret it, but I still think abortion should be legal for those who want it.
Also, making abortion illegal violates Roe V. Wade, which is probably the least conservative thing to do lol.
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Post by Cassie on Nov 4, 2019 2:12:25 GMT 10
Not at all.
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Post by Cassie on Nov 4, 2019 2:16:20 GMT 10
Don’t agree with it at all. Abortion is murder. Anyone who thinks otherwise is outta their mind. Do you even realize you're talking about a fetus? Have you seen real murder? A fetus doesn't recognize its own existence yet for pete's sake. Why should there be penalties for abortion? You're giving up a life, that the baby will never live if they get aborted. They'll never even get to live life because it will be cut off from them before they have the chance to live it.
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Post by karlpalaka on Nov 9, 2019 18:50:22 GMT 10
I support abortions, because many teenage girls are getting pregnant from rape, and it wont be fair if they have to take care of a child before graduating from high school. What I am against though is human mothers killing their newborn babies after birth, and this is actually common. They should put the baby up for adoption. God sends the aborted soul to another mom's womb. Of course if the baby dies after being born, that baby would go to heaven. The last two sentences are just my belief.
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Post by Cassie on Nov 10, 2019 5:30:26 GMT 10
I support abortions, because many teenage girls are getting pregnant from rape, and it wont be fair if they have to take care of a child before graduating from high school. What I am against though is human mothers killing their newborn babies after birth, and this is actually common. They should put the baby up for adoption. God sends the aborted soul to another mom's womb. Of course if the baby dies after being born, that baby would go to heaven. The last two sentences are just my belief. While I do agree with not killing the baby, I don't really support abortion.
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Post by maggieholleran22 on Apr 7, 2020 3:54:53 GMT 10
It's morally acceptable, in my opinion. Nobody gets hurt in an abortion. Talking about a potential life not lived is meaningless: not all the eggs that ovulate and not all the sperm that are produced "get a chance at life" either, yet we do not ponder on the morality of these "potential lives not lived". I think you need evidence that an actual living being is deprived of pleasure in an abortion and not a potential being for it to be immoral. As it is, no one is harmed in an abortion and it causes a lot of social good when unwanted pregnancies are prevented. In regards to your statement entailing that no one gets hurt in an abortion, I would have to firmly disagree. For babies in the womb develop the sense of touch before all of the other senses such as taste, small, sight and hearing. The sense of touch begins at 4 weeks of development in the face and neck, and is fully developed throughout the whole body at 32 weeks of pregnancy. Yet 88 percent of abortions occur within 12 to 13 weeks of pregancy. Inferring that the one who is being hurt, is in and of itself the baby. This kind of hurt is physical and very real, for it is a human life. Also, in regards to the idea that potential life is meaningless to talk about, is another aspect I would have to disagree with. For instance, the ideas and creations which could impact the world by that individual are very meaningful. What if the baby in which is being aborted is the next olympic gold medal winner, bill gates or the person to discover the cure to cancer. Or what if the individual's impact is making one person's life better. Who are we as people or a system of government to determine the importance or value of their lived or unlived life. Additionally, we do not ponder the question of an unlived life of a single egg or sperm because separately they are just a sperm and an egg. There is no life developed if they remain separate and is why we do not question the potential of their life. Yet when together, we question their potential life because there is a life to judge. In regards to the idea that there is no evidence that a human is being deprived of pleasure is additionally wrong. For as stated in my first paragraph, the baby does feel physical pain when aborted anywhere after 4 week. Therefore, we can infer that the physical pain is an absence and depriving a being from pleasure. Furthermore, although abortion may cause some societal good, we must also look at the negetives. For instance, the suicide rate among women who terminate the pregnancy verse having the baby are significuatly higher. This can be seen through the fact that suicide is the leading cause of death in women 42 days after they terminate the pregnancy. Thus, it can be infered that increasing the suicide rate among women in a negetive societal impact. Therefore, although these are not the main reason in why I personally think abortion is immoral, I do believe in the statements in which I have wrote. I would also like to say that I appreciate your opinion and can see your train of thought! Although I disagree I do in fact see your point. Yet, does the information I have provided change your view or wording of your opinion at all? www.whattoexpect.com/pregnancy/fetal-development/fetal-touch/goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/abortion-after-first-trimesterwww.lifenews.com/2019/11/20/studies-show-suicide-rate-for-women-having-abortions-is-higher-than-women-giving-birth/www.beingtheparent.com/negative-effects-of-induced-abortion/
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Post by rainbow on Apr 7, 2020 9:54:34 GMT 10
It's morally acceptable, in my opinion. Nobody gets hurt in an abortion. Talking about a potential life not lived is meaningless: not all the eggs that ovulate and not all the sperm that are produced "get a chance at life" either, yet we do not ponder on the morality of these "potential lives not lived". I think you need evidence that an actual living being is deprived of pleasure in an abortion and not a potential being for it to be immoral. As it is, no one is harmed in an abortion and it causes a lot of social good when unwanted pregnancies are prevented. Furthermore, although abortion may cause some societal good, we must also look at the negetives. For instance, the suicide rate among women who terminate the pregnancy verse having the baby are significuatly higher. This can be seen through the fact that suicide is the leading cause of death in women 42 days after they terminate the pregnancy. Thus, it can be infered that increasing the suicide rate among women in a negetive societal impact. I'm so glad somebody mentioned this because this is definitely real and it happens. I wish there was more talk about the effect that abortion has on mental health. Abortion isn't and should never be used as a form of birth control. It's never something to celebrate. Also, welcome to Popedia!
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