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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2022 8:16:39 GMT 10
hannah montana killed rock music lol, if you really think about out, if pop punk/rock is rebellious and the Disney gets a hold of it it's no longer cool. Pop Rock seemed so uncool by that time.
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Post by 10slover on Apr 1, 2022 8:33:03 GMT 10
hannah montana killed rock music lol, if you really think about out, if pop punk/rock is rebellious and the Disney gets a hold of it it's no longer cool. Pop Rock seemed so uncool by that time. Ironically, a Disney star (Olivia Rodrigro) is the biggest pop-rock star right now. Although she isn't as tied to Disney as Hannah Monstana was because no one watches her show (unlike hannah's show)
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Post by astropoug on Apr 1, 2022 9:10:21 GMT 10
hannah montana killed rock music Maybe that's why she, as well as the likes of the Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber received so much backlash at the time. When you compare what came before: angry angsty rock music with lots of emotions and dark themes, to the cheesy pop of the late 2000s and ESPECIALLY early 2010s, it's not hard to see why so many hated it. And I still do honestly.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2022 10:45:37 GMT 10
lol, if you really think about out, if pop punk/rock is rebellious and the Disney gets a hold of it it's no longer cool. Pop Rock seemed so uncool by that time. Ironically, a Disney star (Olivia Rodrigro) is the biggest pop-rock star right now. Although she isn't as tied to Disney as Hannah Monstana was because no one watches her show (unlike hannah's show) true lol
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Post by y2kbaby on Apr 1, 2022 11:41:16 GMT 10
hannah montana killed rock music Maybe that's why she, as well as the likes of the Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber received so much backlash at the time. When you compare what came before: angry angsty rock music with lots of emotions and dark themes, to the cheesy pop of the late 2000s and ESPECIALLY early 2010s, it's not hard to see why so many hated it. And I still do honestly. Off topic, but what are your thought on the band Hanson? Do you think their album “Middle Of Nowhere” “ruined” rock music in the 1990s. Before Hanson received mainstream attention in 97, rock music (heck most mainstream music at that time) overall had a serious, and authentic aesthetic. 1997 had the Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Aqua etc… 2006 had the High School Musical cast, Hannah Montana, The Jonas Brothers etc… John Titor can answer this question too.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2022 13:15:08 GMT 10
Maybe that's why she, as well as the likes of the Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber received so much backlash at the time. When you compare what came before: angry angsty rock music with lots of emotions and dark themes, to the cheesy pop of the late 2000s and ESPECIALLY early 2010s, it's not hard to see why so many hated it. And I still do honestly. Off topic, but what are your thought on the band Hanson? Do you think their album “Middle Of Nowhere” “ruined” rock music in the 1990s. Before Hanson received mainstream attention in 97, rock music (heck most mainstream music at that time) overall had a serious, and authentic aesthetic. 1997 had the Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Aqua etc… 2006 had the High School Musical cast, Hannah Montana, The Jonas Brothers etc… John Titor can answer this question too. By 97 Grunge had already died and rock in general was feeling pretty aimless and faded, when Hanson came out they had TONS of haters, including me, but in a sense their music bridged the gap between corporate greed grunge/alternative and Gen Y teen pop. I remember seeing this music video when it debuted on MTV in Fall 97 and it felt SUPER different. Had Y2k era fashion elements along with the lingering mid 90s fashions, Even the way the music video was shot and directed was a duality. They basically had a fraud vibe going on when they came out because this was the music they were trying to prep at mall tours in 95 and 96 lol
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Post by astropoug on Apr 1, 2022 14:09:36 GMT 10
Maybe that's why she, as well as the likes of the Jonas Brothers and Justin Bieber received so much backlash at the time. When you compare what came before: angry angsty rock music with lots of emotions and dark themes, to the cheesy pop of the late 2000s and ESPECIALLY early 2010s, it's not hard to see why so many hated it. And I still do honestly. Off topic, but what are your thought on the band Hanson? Do you think their album “Middle Of Nowhere” “ruined” rock music in the 1990s. Before Hanson received mainstream attention in 97, rock music (heck most mainstream music at that time) overall had a serious, and authentic aesthetic. 1997 had the Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Aqua etc… 2006 had the High School Musical cast, Hannah Montana, The Jonas Brothers etc… John Titor can answer this question too. The teen pop of the late 90s was pretty much a result of companies shifting their focus to millennials. You couldn’t cut it anymore making music like Smashing Pumpkins or Oasis anymore. Thankfully, I actually don’t think this killed off rock for good. In my opinion, I would argue the nu metal bands of the early 2000s, Linkin Park especially, helped bring back serious, darker rock back into the mainstream. And the mid 2000s, specifically 2003-2005 was a great time for rock music especially with bands like Green Day, My Chemical Romance, and Linkin Park all being big. Things went downhill in 2006 again, but I think rock was still great in 2006 and even 2007. 2008, in my opinion, was when things REALLY went downhill.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 1, 2022 14:14:00 GMT 10
I think Eminem also played a role in killing off cheesy late 90s music. Sure his music was comedic, but in a very dark way. He was not afraid of tackling dark and serious subject matters you would NEVER hear from the likes of Hanson or NSync. Do you think any of them would’ve made a song like Stan or, fuck, Kim? Absolutely not.
Lots of critics say The Strokes were the saviors of music in the early 2000s, but in my opinion, it was really Linkin Park and Eminem that killed off teen pop and terrible late 90s/Y2K music in general, and brought us to the greatness that is the early 2000s.
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Post by 10slover on Apr 2, 2022 2:30:26 GMT 10
I think Eminem also played a role in killing off cheesy late 90s music. Sure his music was comedic, but in a very dark way. He was not afraid of tackling dark and serious subject matters you would NEVER hear from the likes of Hanson or NSync. Do you think any of them would’ve made a song like Stan or, fuck, Kim? Absolutely not. Lots of critics say The Strokes were the saviors of music in the early 2000s, but in my opinion, it was really Linkin Park and Eminem that killed off teen pop and terrible late 90s/Y2K music in general, and brought us to the greatness that is the early 2000s. Blink 182 also killed late 90s cheesy pop music Have you seen their music videos from around that time?
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Post by 10slover on Apr 2, 2022 2:36:00 GMT 10
Off topic, but what are your thought on the band Hanson? Do you think their album “Middle Of Nowhere” “ruined” rock music in the 1990s. Before Hanson received mainstream attention in 97, rock music (heck most mainstream music at that time) overall had a serious, and authentic aesthetic. 1997 had the Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Aqua etc… 2006 had the High School Musical cast, Hannah Montana, The Jonas Brothers etc… John Titor can answer this question too. The teen pop of the late 90s was pretty much a result of companies shifting their focus to millennials. You couldn’t cut it anymore making music like Smashing Pumpkins or Oasis anymore. Thankfully, I actually don’t think this killed off rock for good. In my opinion, I would argue the nu metal bands of the early 2000s, Linkin Park especially, helped bring back serious, darker rock back into the mainstream. And the mid 2000s, specifically 2003-2005 was a great time for rock music especially with bands like Green Day, My Chemical Romance, and Linkin Park all being big. Things went downhill in 2006 again, but I think rock was still great in 2006 and even 2007. 2008, in my opinion, was when things REALLY went downhill. I partially blame Avril Lavigne too. Her (international) hit song "Girlfriend" (which slaps btw) only helped deteriorating rock music's reputation (it also killed her loyal fanbase, and so her albums started to underperform because the only people listening to her after "Girlfriend" were the casual listeners, and casual listeners lose interest quickly)
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