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Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Mar 8, 2019 10:44:22 GMT 10
With DST just around the corner, thought this would make a good topic.
I personally believe DST should be abolished. I understand that sunlight is certainly valuable, but changing our clocks an hour forward is not necessary for more sunlight, it's not necessary to have people lose an hour of sleep once a year just for an extra hour of sunlight. Instead of changing our clocks, why not change our schedules?
So, instead of the average worker's schedule be working 9am-5pm and sleeping 11pm-7am, why don't we instead have the average worker's schedule be working 8am-4pm and sleeping 10pm-6am? That makes way more sense to me, they'll still get just as much daylight hours after work without having to change their clocks, and 8-4 to me honestly seems way more sensible and less arbitrary than 9-5 does, since 8-4 is the middle third of the day, with noon being the midpoint of the workday instead of a more arbitrary 1pm.
What do you think? Should DST be abolished?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 11:23:12 GMT 10
Yes, but keep it on summer time permanently.
Also, in your example, people would still lose sleep. If I have to get ready to be at work by 8 instead of 9, then naturally I would have to wake up an hour earlier.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 8, 2019 17:02:25 GMT 10
Simply put, no. I don't see why it should be abolished.
So, instead of the average worker's schedule be working 9am-5pm and sleeping 11pm-7am, why don't we instead have the average worker's schedule be working 8am-4pm and sleeping 10pm-6am? That makes way more sense to me, they'll still get just as much daylight hours after work without having to change their clocks, and 8-4 to me honestly seems way more sensible and less arbitrary than 9-5 does, since 8-4 is the middle third of the day, with noon being the midpoint of the workday instead of a more arbitrary 1pm.That would be highly impractical. People are not going to suddenly change their work routines as a result of DST being abolished. Could you imagine how disruptive it would be for the millions of companies/corporations around the country to adopt a new work practice as significant as that? It would have a huge impact on the company's finances and timeplans, such as when stock is delivered to the store. Plus, you couldn't rely on workers showing up to work for 8am on the first day that it was implemented. There would be thousands of people who would still turn up to work for 9am, because it has been ingrained for so many years.
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Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Mar 12, 2019 2:29:54 GMT 10
SharksFan99 Sure, there would be issues on Day 1 of the change from 9-5 to 8-4, as there are on the first workdays of Spring Forward and Fall Back with the current time model we use now. However, the Day 1 issues of the 9-5 to 8-4 change would be one-and-done, the average worker would quickly get into the habit of daily operations being a numeric hour earlier, and they'd never have to fiddle with their schedule again after that. With every major country set on a standard time, this also makes international meetings a lot easier as the time difference between cities would never change, whereas with our current time model, the time difference is a major issue, as not all countries change their clocks at the same time, it's especially difficult when planning international meetings between the US and Australia as their seasons are inverted, so Australia's DST timeframe is different from the US's. @slowpoke1993 The problem with year-round DST is that the cold and dark mornings during the winter would just get colder and darker, making it increasingly problematic for children who walk to school each morning. Also, midnight and midday (noon) would no longer be "mid"night and "mid"day, midnight would just become an arbitrary boundary with no basis supporting it. Sure, the Standard Time solar midnight and noon are only at 12am and 12pm respectively a few times a year, and most of the year hover a few minutes off either before or after, but 12am and 12pm would be rough averages. On DST, those averages move to 1am and 1pm respectively.
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Post by rainbow on Mar 12, 2019 6:44:02 GMT 10
IMO I think DST is pointless. Not only is it a lot darker in the morning which makes it harder to wake up if you have to wake up early, but it also makes it a little harder to go to bed early since sunlight lasts a little longer.
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Post by ★☆GäBBï☆★ on Mar 12, 2019 16:48:52 GMT 10
I honestly don't understand DST as I've never lived in a country that had it 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 14:52:42 GMT 10
@slowpoke1993 The problem with year-round DST is that the cold and dark mornings during the winter would just get colder and darker, making it increasingly problematic for children who walk to school each morning. Also, midnight and midday (noon) would no longer be "mid"night and "mid"day, midnight would just become an arbitrary boundary with no basis supporting it. Sure, the Standard Time solar midnight and noon are only at 12am and 12pm respectively a few times a year, and most of the year hover a few minutes off either before or after, but 12am and 12pm would be rough averages. On DST, those averages move to 1am and 1pm respectively. Bruh I walked 15 minutes to the everyday gym in -25°C (-15°F) for almost a solid two months and I survived. Kids need to toughen up  I don't think the 1am/1pm thing really matters. We are already at DST for 8 months of the year and it doesn't seem to bother people.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 15:00:10 GMT 10
IMO I think DST is pointless. Not only is it a lot darker in the morning which makes it harder to wake up if you have to wake up early, but it also makes it a little harder to go to bed early since sunlight lasts a little longer. Winter is always going to be dark and summer is always going to be bright. DST or lack of can't really help with that. If you have a good sleep schedule it's inevitable that you might be waking up in the dark in the winter or sleeping during the day in the summer.
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Post by rainbow on Mar 16, 2019 21:07:52 GMT 10
IMO I think DST is pointless. Not only is it a lot darker in the morning which makes it harder to wake up if you have to wake up early, but it also makes it a little harder to go to bed early since sunlight lasts a little longer. Winter is always going to be dark and summer is always going to be bright. DST or lack of can't really help with that. If you have a good sleep schedule it's inevitable that you might be waking up in the dark in the winter or sleeping during the day in the summer. Which is why it’s pointless and I don’t see why we should have it.
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Post by kev2000sfan on Feb 3, 2020 5:01:12 GMT 10
I see DST only having one benefit, its useful if you HAVE to be up at 6 or earlier. Its bad when you wanted to go out on a specific day. Bruh, it getting dark at 5pm will literally put you to sleep. DST is only okish on certain days for me.
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Post by John Titor on Feb 3, 2020 7:32:54 GMT 10
it should
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 21:16:07 GMT 10
I'm okay with DST now. I like late summer sunsets, and apparently people don't like waking up at night time in the winter (even though it's practically inevitable that you will have to do that, I mean I'm awake right now and the sun isn't up for 2 hours). DST is a compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 9:50:49 GMT 10
Yes. Get rid of it completely.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 19, 2022 10:54:20 GMT 10
In light of Congress passing a law to make Daylight Savings Time permanent, I've thought I should bump this thread.
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Post by Cassie on Mar 20, 2022 12:05:38 GMT 10
Yes, it's so much more consistent.
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