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Post by rainbow on Mar 26, 2019 8:06:07 GMT 10
I personally don’t see anything wrong with sex before marriage, as long as there is consent and it’s safe. From my experience, it’s usually religious people who don’t agree with sex before marriage.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 9:18:05 GMT 10
It's an individual choice. I think as long as you do it with someone you care about it and someone who cares about you, you're good.
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Post by al on Mar 26, 2019 12:06:33 GMT 10
It's everyone's choice, beyond consent and safe practices. Personally I'm more into the idea of spiritual marriage than the actual thing anyway. The marriage needs to mean something between the two people because it has been bastardized by society. The whole old-school idea was that you would only ever have sex with that one person, hence waiting. With such a high divorce rate, getting married doesn't mean you'll stay together forever like it used to. And I have noticed a pattern of very religious people basically getting married either too quickly or too young because they're horny. Unwed sex>an unhappy marriage imo.
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Post by mwalker96 on Mar 26, 2019 21:33:27 GMT 10
It's everyone's choice, beyond consent and safe practices. Personally I'm more into the idea of spiritual marriage than the actual thing anyway. The marriage needs to mean something between the two people because it has been bastardized by society. The whole old-school idea was that you would only ever have sex with that one person, hence waiting. With such a high divorce rate, getting married doesn't mean you'll stay together forever like it used to. And I have noticed a pattern of very religious people basically getting married either too quickly or too young because they're horny. Unwed sex>an unhappy marriage imo. I agree, and this is coming from someone who's a devout Christian. I live in the bible-belt and I seen lots of marriages end I divorce because of being married pre-maturely. Young marriages aren't as common in my area like it used to be but teen pregnancy is pretty high in my little neck of the woods. My county has the highest teen-pregancy in the state. You'll be amazed how many elementary age kids have parents around our age.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 0:19:44 GMT 10
No.
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Post by Alexander Edoh on Mar 27, 2019 3:17:42 GMT 10
Other people's sex lives are none of your business!
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Post by al on Mar 31, 2019 10:12:31 GMT 10
I agree, and this is coming from someone who's a devout Christian. I live in the bible-belt and I seen lots of marriages end I divorce because of being married pre-maturely. Young marriages aren't as common in my area like it used to be but teen pregnancy is pretty high in my little neck of the woods. My county has the highest teen-pregancy in the state. You'll be amazed how many elementary age kids have parents around our age. Yeah I don't know that many people our age that have kids that.old, just a handful. I think it can be damaging to ostracize sex, as well as to make it like you're supposed to be having sex. Either extreme isn't good for society imo.
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Post by mwalker96 on Mar 31, 2019 10:26:57 GMT 10
I agree, and this is coming from someone who's a devout Christian. I live in the bible-belt and I seen lots of marriages end I divorce because of being married pre-maturely. Young marriages aren't as common in my area like it used to be but teen pregnancy is pretty high in my little neck of the woods. My county has the highest teen-pregancy in the state. You'll be amazed how many elementary age kids have parents around our age. Yeah I don't know that many people our age that have kids that.old, just a handful. I think it can be damaging to ostracize sex, as well as to make it like you're supposed to be having sex. Either extreme isn't good for society imo. Yeah my area is pretty poor so young people grow up a lot faster.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 13:44:16 GMT 10
Sex education is really bad in America, isn't it? Because I seem to recall there being a segment of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (which you can find on YouTube) from a few years ago which highlighted that a number of the states have to teach abstinence-only sex education programs (basically telling students that they should wait until marriage before engaging in sexual activities) and some also having restrictions about what can be said about LGBTI+ issues, etc. I don't think there's a general culture of abstinence-only sex education programs in the mainstream schooling system here in Australia, although I wouldn't be overly surprised if it's a message that's pushed in some religious schools and perhaps really conservative areas in general. Perhaps SharksFan99, @zampakid and other Australian-based Popedia members had different experiences, but I vaguely recall a tiny bit of sex ed taught during a more general "Preparing for Puberty" type information night I had to attend in Year 5 (so this would've been in 2006) which was run by Interrelate or some other organisation who does these sorts of programs in New South Wales schools. But to answer the question this thread is asking, I don't really care whether or not people decide to have sex before marriage. While all sexual activity must have 100% consent and that it's also advisable for people to take appropriate precautions if they want to avoid pregnancy or STIs, beyond that people's sex lives are generally a private matter which isn't anyone else's business but theirs.
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Post by al on Mar 31, 2019 14:23:15 GMT 10
Well in my 8th grade sex ed class, the teacher blew up a condom like a balloon and tossed it around like a beach ball. *still cringes* In one class, he supposedly got powder all over his lips. Does New England sex ed promote activity, or does it use reverse psychology? Hmm... The real sex ed class happens in 10th grade. It was mostly focused on the prevention of stds. While I can't say she gave us any lbtq specific uhh, instructions, we were very much promoted to use condoms. She didn't tell us not to have sex, except to not feel like there's any rush. Actually what I found to be the best piece of advice she gave us was to "find a partner who wants the same things". While I certainly can't speak for everywhere, I'm gonna assume that those who are receiving abstinence only information are getting it at home or at church. I feel like in media, there's this assumption that it's "normal" to be having sex, though I suppose in some conservative areas, it's still socially frowned upon.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 31, 2019 14:29:06 GMT 10
I don't think there's a general culture of abstinence-only sex education programs in the mainstream schooling system here in Australia, although I wouldn't be overly surprised if it's a message that's pushed in some religious schools and perhaps really conservative areas in general. Perhaps SharksFan99 , @zampakid and other Australian-based Popedia members had different experiences, but I vaguely recall a tiny bit of sex ed taught during a more general "Preparing for Puberty" type information night I had to attend in Year 5 (so this would've been in 2006) which was run by Interrelate or some other organisation who does these sorts of programs in New South Wales schools. My experience was pretty similar to yours. I had to attend two "Preparing for Puberty" information sessions when I was in Year 6, although ours were held during the school day rather than at night. From memory, the information sessions didn't really go into too much detail about sex education. I think the guest speakers may have briefly touched upon the topic, but it was never a focus of the session. Personally, I was mostly taught up about sex education during a topic of Puberty that we had to for a term in Health/PE in Year 7. As part of the unit of work, we had to learn about STI's and other topics to do with learning about sex education. This was back in 2012, so i'm not sure if you did something similar when you were in Year 7?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 15:02:54 GMT 10
My experience was pretty similar to yours. I had to attend two "Preparing for Puberty" information sessions when I was in Year 6, although ours were held during the school day rather than at night. From memory, the information sessions didn't really go into too much detail about sex education. I think the guest speakers may have briefly touched upon the topic, but it was never a focus of the session.? Of course sex education wouldn't have been a primary focus of that "Preparing for Puberty" information session in Year 5 but since menstruation & wet dreams were covered (from what I remember anyway), I'd imagine the overall topic of sex education would've been at least briefly touched on by the guest speakers. Personally, I was mostly taught up about sex education during a topic of Puberty that we had to for a term in Health/PE in Year 7. As part of the unit of work, we had to learn about STI's and other topics to do with learning about sex education. This was back in 2012, so i'm not sure if you did something similar when you were in Year 7? Yeah, I think I received a more comprehensive sex education during the early years of high school. Now obviously I can't speak for every school and educational program in Australia and things have likely changed/hopefully improved in recent years (especially when it comes to things like LGBTI+ issues, cautioning students about the risks of posting/sending sexually explicit images, etc.), but remembering my experience and comparing that to what I've heard about how America teaches sex education I think we've got the better way of doing it.
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Post by skullmaiden on Jun 3, 2019 2:50:37 GMT 10
Sex education is really bad in America, isn't it? Because I seem to recall there being a segment of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (which you can find on YouTube) from a few years ago which highlighted that a number of the states have to teach abstinence-only sex education programs (basically telling students that they should wait until marriage before engaging in sexual activities) and some also having restrictions about what can be said about LGBTI+ issues, etc. I don't think there's a general culture of abstinence-only sex education programs in the mainstream schooling system here in Australia, although I wouldn't be overly surprised if it's a message that's pushed in some religious schools and perhaps really conservative areas in general. Perhaps SharksFan99 , @zampakid and other Australian-based Popedia members had different experiences, but I vaguely recall a tiny bit of sex ed taught during a more general "Preparing for Puberty" type information night I had to attend in Year 5 (so this would've been in 2006) which was run by Interrelate or some other organisation who does these sorts of programs in New South Wales schools. But to answer the question this thread is asking, I don't really care whether or not people decide to have sex before marriage. While all sexual activity must have 100% consent and that it's also advisable for people to take appropriate precautions if they want to avoid pregnancy or STIs, beyond that people's sex lives are generally a private matter which isn't anyone else's business but theirs. Sex ed in America isn't ALL abstinence only teaching. Our school taught it was best to wait, but did go over birth control methods too. It's not a matter of should or shouldn't before marriage, because not everyone meets the right person when they're young the way it's portrayed. Nobody should feel pressured into any decision for sure.
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Post by mwalker96 on Jun 8, 2019 4:38:16 GMT 10
I didn't have sex ed since i moved to NC a yr late (i moved in grade 6 and sex ed was taught in grade 5). I did have to watch a video of teens having babies tho and had a sex ed booklet. It was pretty abstence since we were so young but had i had it in high school it would be more lenient. Kids in my area have sex pretty young so abstinence talk just causes more rebellion.
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