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Post by slashpop on Nov 3, 2020 4:53:41 GMT 10
Pure early 2000s culture lasted until around winter of 2002/2003 and spring of 2003, even though things were just starting to change then it was mostly pure early 2000s.
Late spring going into the summer of 2003 was already a bit different because of core and mid elements finally making their mark but not drastically altering or ending the base early 2000s identity of the period. late spring going into summer 2003 to the early half of summer 2004, was a unique era of its own and was the transitional and slightly different early 2000s but early 2000s nonetheless, marked by a gradual build up of mid and core 2000s elements in an early 2000s world, until we reached the mid 2000s in the second half of 2004.
Most of summer 2004 was probably the least early 2000s but not officially mid at the same time at least to number of people who agree. Even in May 2004 you started to feel some more substantial mid 2000s vibes pop out, but still not there, but a bit more than Jan to April 2004 which felt like a prolonged and watered down version of late 2003, with more or less the same unique early 2000s identity.
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Post by y2kbaby on Nov 3, 2020 5:28:11 GMT 10
I want to say around Feb 03. When March arrived especially with the U.S. Invading Iraq was when the "pure" early 00s vibe was done. Spring 2003-Summer 2004 was neither early nor mid 2000s. Just a mixture of both.
But I will say this though, Q4 2004-Q1 2005 was the start of the mid 2000s with a early 00s influence to it. I wanna say around the end of spring/start of summer in 2005, the early 2000s feel was completely gone. I remember being in Kindergarden in 2004 thinking that the early 2000s was still around. When I entered 1st grade in 2005, I remember the vibe feeling so different.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 3, 2020 8:45:50 GMT 10
Fall 2003 for me even tho I could argue Early 2003 I guess that kinda makes sense cuz Myspace was around in Fall 2003 with Iraq war being in full swing. Also crunk & 50 cent got huge. Not to mention, emo starts to become a thing. Didn’t u say that by fall 2004, we were in a total 2000s world & that the mid 2000s peaked by then? Myspace didn't get popular until Q4 of 2004, but as for Fall 2003 a lot of things just came together then such as Paris Hilton blowing up, Bling style really becoming a force. I repeat Myspace did dont get popular until the 2004-2005 school year. By Fall 2004 you had ( I know another check list) - Emo popping off with MCR - DSL now the dominant service - Camera phones being adopted - Ashlee Simpson becomes the new it girl - yellow live strong bracelets - Laguna beach on MTV debuts - Surf Style starts becoming popular - Major Bush hate Add by December 2004 - myspace was popping off fast - Nintendo DS was out - Ipod commercials start airing on tv and on Billboards We were in about 95% mid 2000s world by Q4 2004, did not peak tho yet -
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Post by John Titor on Nov 3, 2020 8:51:14 GMT 10
Myspace didn't get popular until Q4 of 2004, but as for Fall 2003 a lot of things just came together then such as Paris Hilton blowing up, Bling style really becoming a force. By Fall 2004 you had ( I know another check list) - Emo popping off with MCR - DSL now the dominant service - Camera phones being adopted - Ashlee Simpson becomes the new it girl Add by December 2004 - myspace was popping off fast - Nintendo DS was out We were in about 95% 2000s world by Q4 2004, did not peak tho yet - You’re right. 2003 was still a pre-social media world & so was most of 2004. Didn’t the MTV show Pimp My Ride or MTV Cribs begin sometime in 2003? I remember seeing Motorolla Razrs & emo kids at the Hot Topic store in malls around late 2004. 2004 and Cribs started around 2000/2001, and yes MTV was that influential, almost every person in class watched TRL when they went home from school as well as 106 & Park on BET. MTV was a damn force in the mid 2000s. In late 2004 Emo kind of helped MTV with all the new artists. TRL's ratings actually went up in Fall 2004 when MCR and Ashlee Simpson were on the radio.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Nov 3, 2020 8:51:30 GMT 10
2003 & early 2004 were still mostly early 00s but, the culture was definitely past its peak. (I changed my mind).
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Post by John Titor on Nov 3, 2020 9:12:00 GMT 10
2004 and Cribs started around 2000/2001, and yes MTV was that influential, almost every person in class watched TRL when they went home from school as well as 106 & Park on BET. MTV was a damn force in the mid 2000s. In late 2004 Emo kind of helped MTV with all the new artists. TRL's ratings actually went up in Fall 2004 when MCR and Ashlee Simpson were on the radio. Wow. There was definitely a monoculture in the 2000s. That pretty much died in the 2010s around 2013-2014 I think. The 2000s definitely had an identity. I actually looked up the ratings for TRL in Fall 2004 and they are up 39% from a 2 year decrease, so it had to have been the new hosts + Emo artists and new pop artists like Ashlee Simpson, Ryan Cabrera etc etc here is a clip of Back to school week on TRL and yes these new artists breathed life into MTV
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Post by John Titor on Nov 3, 2020 9:23:29 GMT 10
I actually looked up the ratings for TRL in Fall 2004 and they are up 39% from a 2 year decrease, so it had to have been the new hosts + Emo artists and new pop artists like Ashlee Simpson, Ryan Cabrera etc etc here is a clip of Back to school week on TRL and yes these new artists breathed life into MTV Honestly that’s great. How come the hosts were replaced? Were people bored of them? Carson the original host started hosting a show on NBC and started showing up less and less so MTV decided to have 4 hosts for TRL to fill in the slack.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 18, 2022 10:32:36 GMT 10
2004.
2003 IMO was basically just a watered down version of late 2001-2002.
I’d say a variety of things that happened over the course of mid 2003-late 2004 really shifted the vibe, such as Drake and Josh, The Simple Life, Pimp My Ride, The OC, Danny Phantom, Billy and Mandy all having their premieres. The end of the Powerhouse era and start of the CN City era. 90s remnant shows like Friends, Rugrats, and Hey Arnold finally ending. People finally stopping to use Windows 98 and 2000 and switching to XP. People waking up to Bush’s bullshit and anti-Bush satire like American Idiot and Team America: World Police. iPods catching on and becoming popular. Cell phones now have color screens and cameras. Need for Speed became about car customization and tuner culture (and also really exploded in popularity). The death of nu metal and rise of emo. MySpace exploding in popularity and broadband overtaking dial-up.
By late 2004 it truly felt like the mid 2000s and the early 2000s were completely dead.
And to be honest, I actually liked the cultural shift. I liked that people were making fun of Bush instead of shilling him and I REALLY preferred broadband over dial-up. The mid 2000s are my personal favorite era to be honest.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 18, 2022 10:50:03 GMT 10
2004. 2003 IMO was basically just a watered down version of late 2001-2002. I’d say a variety of things that happened over the course of mid 2003-late 2004 really shifted the vibe, such as Drake and Josh, The Simple Life, Pimp My Ride, The OC, Danny Phantom, Billy and Mandy all having their premieres. The end of the Powerhouse era and start of the CN City era. 90s remnant shows like Friends, Rugrats, and Hey Arnold finally ending. People finally stopping to use Windows 98 and 2000 and switching to XP. People waking up to Bush’s bullshit and anti-Bush satire like American Idiot and Team America: World Police. iPods catching on and becoming popular. Cell phones now have color screens and cameras. Need for Speed became about car customization and tuner culture (and also really exploded in popularity). The death of nu metal and rise of emo. MySpace exploding in popularity and broadband overtaking dial-up. By late 2004 it truly felt like the mid 2000s and the early 2000s were completely dead. And to be honest, I actually liked the cultural shift. I liked that people were making fun of Bush instead of shilling him and I REALLY preferred broadband over dial-up. The mid 2000s are my personal favorite era to be honest. I liked the shift as well. It was really needed, as much as I loved the early 2000s it over stayed it's welcome
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Post by astropoug on Apr 18, 2022 11:04:54 GMT 10
2004. 2003 IMO was basically just a watered down version of late 2001-2002. I’d say a variety of things that happened over the course of mid 2003-late 2004 really shifted the vibe, such as Drake and Josh, The Simple Life, Pimp My Ride, The OC, Danny Phantom, Billy and Mandy all having their premieres. The end of the Powerhouse era and start of the CN City era. 90s remnant shows like Friends, Rugrats, and Hey Arnold finally ending. People finally stopping to use Windows 98 and 2000 and switching to XP. People waking up to Bush’s bullshit and anti-Bush satire like American Idiot and Team America: World Police. iPods catching on and becoming popular. Cell phones now have color screens and cameras. Need for Speed became about car customization and tuner culture (and also really exploded in popularity). The death of nu metal and rise of emo. MySpace exploding in popularity and broadband overtaking dial-up. By late 2004 it truly felt like the mid 2000s and the early 2000s were completely dead. And to be honest, I actually liked the cultural shift. I liked that people were making fun of Bush instead of shilling him and I REALLY preferred broadband over dial-up. The mid 2000s are my personal favorite era to be honest. I liked the shift as well. It was really needed, as much as I loved the early 2000s it over stayed it's welcome Main reason why I liked the shift was because I love the mid 2000s in general. The CN City era, peak racing games like Need for Speed, Burnout, and Midnight Club, everybody using Windows XP, iPods and MP3 players, MySpace, broadband internet, Wikipedia blowing up in popularity, Drake and Josh, anti-Bush backlash. Early 2000s was great but there were some negatives such as post-9/11 paranoia, overly patriotic attitudes and people sucking Bush’s dick, slow-ass AOL dial-up, the fact it was uncool to like Nintendo, etc. Mid 2000s either didn’t have these problems, or they weren’t as bad.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 19, 2022 3:36:47 GMT 10
I liked the shift as well. It was really needed, as much as I loved the early 2000s it over stayed it's welcome Main reason why I liked the shift was because I love the mid 2000s in general. The CN City era, peak racing games like Need for Speed, Burnout, and Midnight Club, everybody using Windows XP, iPods and MP3 players, MySpace, broadband internet, Wikipedia blowing up in popularity, Drake and Josh, anti-Bush backlash. Early 2000s was great but there were some negatives such as post-9/11 paranoia, overly patriotic attitudes and people sucking Bush’s dick, slow-ass AOL dial-up, the fact it was uncool to like Nintendo, etc. Mid 2000s either didn’t have these problems, or they weren’t as bad. Yeah like the mid 2000s made what the early 2000s had and made it better. While cutting out a ton of the negative aspects. The mid 2000s did not feel as racist as the early 2000s either. I remember this girl from Pakistan was transferred into our class 2 weeks after 9/11, you can imagine what happened.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 19, 2022 3:47:00 GMT 10
Main reason why I liked the shift was because I love the mid 2000s in general. The CN City era, peak racing games like Need for Speed, Burnout, and Midnight Club, everybody using Windows XP, iPods and MP3 players, MySpace, broadband internet, Wikipedia blowing up in popularity, Drake and Josh, anti-Bush backlash. Early 2000s was great but there were some negatives such as post-9/11 paranoia, overly patriotic attitudes and people sucking Bush’s dick, slow-ass AOL dial-up, the fact it was uncool to like Nintendo, etc. Mid 2000s either didn’t have these problems, or they weren’t as bad. Yeah like the mid 2000s made what the early 2000s had and made it better. While cutting out a ton of the negative aspects. The mid 2000s did not feel as racist as the early 2000s either. I remember this girl from Pakistan was transferred into our class 2 weeks after 9/11, you can imagine what happened. You also saw people making fun of Bush in the mid 2000s which wasn’t common or acceptable in the early 2000s. I completely agree that the mid 2000s in many ways felt like an enhanced early 2000s. For example, whilst Windows XP was already a great operating system upon release, Service Pack 2, released in 2004, made it by far the most stable version of Windows to ever exist. GTA San Andreas was the pinnacle of 3D era GTA and, arguably, is still the pinnacle of GTA to this day. Shrek 2 was even better than Shrek, already one of the greatest animated movies of all time. The Incredibles released that same year was also amazing, and enjoyed by people of all ages. Maybe that’s why I like 2004 so much, it felt like all the negative aspects of the early 2000s were dying off whilst we still got to enjoy all the great pop culture from the early 2000s, but it was even better. 2006 is kinda where the vibe shifted because you had YouTube blowing up in popularity, High School Musical and Hannah Montana redefined Disney Channel and kid culture in general, consoles like the PS3 and Wii releasing, etc. It was the last year that still felt like it had ties to the early 2000s but they were weaker. By 2007, especially late 2007, 2001-2003 felt long behind us.
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