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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 8, 2019 22:18:19 GMT 10
Even though my Tafe lesson tonight was a complete snoozefest (watching paint dry would have been more entertaining), there was one interesting point of discussion that we got into and that was the effects of climate change. There are a lot of people out there who believe that humans do not contribute to greenhouse gas emissions and climate change. Many skeptics point to the Ice Age and how the Earth has constantly been evolving since the planet was formed. However, other people see it differently and believe that humans are the sole contributing factor to climate change, largely in part due to land clearing and releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
Look, to be fair, there are valid enough reasons to both sides of the argument, however the sad reality is that people are generally not seeing eye to eye on this debate and it is beginning to have devastating consequences to our way of life. I think most people would agree that we need to try to mitigate the impacts of climate change.
What is your opinion on this? Do you believe climate change is caused by humans or are you of the opinion that this is simply a natural occurrence?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 8, 2019 22:32:34 GMT 10
I'm of the belief that human activity and natural factors are both contributing to the effects of climate change. It isn't a coincidence that both air and sea temperatures have gradually risen since the Industrial Revolution and the rate of this has only increased within the last 10-20 years. The Amazon Rainforest is being cut down at an alarming rate and it is estimated that 83% of it may be destroyed by the end of this century. It represents over half of the planet's remaining rainforests, yet over 3/4 of it is expected to be damaged in the long-term future. I'm sorry, but no one can deny that humans are not contributing to climate change in some way. Not only is land clearing having a serious impact, but so too is air pollution, increased levels of carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases.
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Post by Cassie on Sept 7, 2019 7:47:31 GMT 10
On a side note, all this global warming crap, to me, is complete bull. It's just a bunch of loons trying to scare people like they did with Y2K, which (spoilers) didn't happen. And neither did the "end" in 2012.
Normally I don't talk about opinions like that, but still I think it's all a big load of bull.
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Post by Telso on Sept 8, 2019 21:28:43 GMT 10
On a side note, all this global warming crap, to me, is complete bull. It's just a bunch of loons trying to scare people like they did with Y2K, which (spoilers) didn't happen. And neither did the "end" in 2012.. Yes, instead of calling centuries of research proving pretty much a set-fact by now "bull" and discrediting the works of thousands of fully fledged scientists that are day and night working on the field "loons", I highly recommend you to do your own indepedent research on the matter, which I am fairly sure you didn't. Also please don't make fallacious comparisons with those ends of the world "paranoias". There's barely anything connecting, one was fully hypothetical, while the other was entirely rooted on a misunderstanding. The difference is that you can SEE and MEASURE global warming in action.
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Post by Cassie on Sept 9, 2019 8:57:47 GMT 10
On a side note, all this global warming crap, to me, is complete bull. It's just a bunch of loons trying to scare people like they did with Y2K, which (spoilers) didn't happen. And neither did the "end" in 2012.. Yes, instead of calling centuries of research proving pretty much a set-fact by now "bull" and discrediting the works of thousands of fully fledged scientists that are day and night working on the field "loons", I highly recommend you to do your own indepedent research on the matter, which I am fairly sure you didn't. Also please don't make fallacious comparisons with those ends of the world "paranoias". There's barely anything connecting, one was fully hypothetical, while the other was entirely rooted on a misunderstanding. The difference is that you can SEE and MEASURE global warming in action. Still think it's bullshit.
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Post by rainbow on Sept 10, 2019 6:14:40 GMT 10
On a side note, all this global warming crap, to me, is complete bull. It's just a bunch of loons trying to scare people like they did with Y2K, which (spoilers) didn't happen. And neither did the "end" in 2012. Normally I don't talk about opinions like that, but still I think it's all a big load of bull. I never knew that Popedia would be so diverse in thought that we'd have climate change deniers on here. 
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Post by dount2005 on Sept 10, 2019 6:20:44 GMT 10
On a side note, all this global warming crap, to me, is complete bull. It's just a bunch of loons trying to scare people like they did with Y2K, which (spoilers) didn't happen. And neither did the "end" in 2012. Normally I don't talk about opinions like that, but still I think it's all a big load of bull. I bet you also support Trump. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 6:22:04 GMT 10
Humans are responsible if we’re gonna sit here and deny that then we all might as well go to popeyes and go apeshit over a chicken sandwich instead of worrying about the burning rainforest or the trash in the sea.
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Post by Cassie on Sept 10, 2019 7:10:24 GMT 10
On a side note, all this global warming crap, to me, is complete bull. It's just a bunch of loons trying to scare people like they did with Y2K, which (spoilers) didn't happen. And neither did the "end" in 2012. Normally I don't talk about opinions like that, but still I think it's all a big load of bull. I bet you also support Trump. I do.
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Post by dount2005 on Sept 10, 2019 7:38:41 GMT 10
I bet you also support Trump. I do. Typical for Trump supporters. They are all dumb.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 10, 2019 11:58:07 GMT 10
Typical for Trump supporters. They are all dumb. I don't understand how people can support Trump either, but in saying that, people can believe whatever they choose to, whether you personally agree with it or not.
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Post by thy9899 on Sept 16, 2019 22:01:13 GMT 10
I like this topic actually since I'm very interested in meteorology
I think it was due to both natural occurrence and human activities but the proportion is more like 80~90:10~20 because I still think the human activities largely affect the earth's ecosystem and climate
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 6:22:30 GMT 10
Yes, instead of calling centuries of research proving pretty much a set-fact by now "bull" and discrediting the works of thousands of fully fledged scientists that are day and night working on the field "loons", I highly recommend you to do your own indepedent research on the matter, which I am fairly sure you didn't. Also please don't make fallacious comparisons with those ends of the world "paranoias". There's barely anything connecting, one was fully hypothetical, while the other was entirely rooted on a misunderstanding. The difference is that you can SEE and MEASURE global warming in action. Still think it's bullshit. Get a plastic bottle and fill it with air and put a thermometer inside. Get another plastic bottle and fill it with carbon dioxide (by mixing vinegar and baking soda and collecting the gas) and put a thermometer inside. Put these two bottles in the fridge so you have the same starting temperature. Take the bottles out, record the temperature, and put the two bottles out in the sun. Record the temperature every 10 minutes or every hour and then tell me the temperature difference is bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 4:19:54 GMT 10
There were this couple in my church when I was growing up that went out and maxed out their credit cards (this was in the mid '90s) because they were certain Jesus would come back and they wouldn't have to pay it off. Guess what...a few years later they were filing for bankruptcy.
This is exactly what America is doing right now in regards to the climate. I mean, what if Jesus doesn't come back? Is is really that bad to have clean air and clean water and national parks to enjoy?
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Post by al on Oct 19, 2019 6:55:23 GMT 10
I wrote my sophomore controversial topic paper on global warming and low key tried to disprove it lol. Idr what my argument was. I think my biggest problem with it was, as it remains to this day, that there are a lot of cost cutting and money making measures that are exploiting the threat of global warming. I’m not gonna say that, for example, reducing our plastic doesn’t help our environment, because it does. But shaming people who need a plastic bag or straw or something is to me counterproductive. Companies are saving money by not having to give you a straw, they make money selling you a reusable bag; corporate “green” measures can do some good, but they’re usually just doing what works for them. To me this is a point of frustration because I have read several statistics citing how much more big business contributes to environmental damage than individuals combined. Admittedly I am just talking out of my ass right now because I don’t really care to remember this data, and one’s belief in climate change or not, pollution and finite resources are clearly an issue. I just hate to see people, but particularly young kids, develop anxiety about their consumption. Sure every little bit helps, but this is truly a massive issue that imo needs technological solutions and money to invest and cultivate some new ideas.
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