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Post by John Titor on Aug 14, 2019 6:20:08 GMT 10
Any hit Katy Perry or Lady Gaga released in 2008 is what make the year feel confusing. I consider them legit early 2010s artists. There was more to music in 2008 than just "I Kissed a Girl" and "Poker Face", so I don't see how Katy Perry and Lady Gaga's hits would make the year feel any different or confusing. it wasnt just music, popular 2000s shows and blocks ended Stores like KB toys and Circuit City and Walden books closed down if we are speaking on just atmosphere as well as Obama I think he means more then music when talking about it, regardless Electropop was buzzing in 2008 and was the NEW thing
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Post by X2M on Aug 15, 2019 5:31:14 GMT 10
Yes, it was! I honestly believe some people are only looking at music, social media, and technology. Then, they also are ignoring other trends such as fashion, gaming, politics, cinema, and everyday attitudes. If we were to look at the top 100 songs of 2008, that year barely had any electropop tracks besides "I Kissed a Girl," "Poker Face" and "Just Dance. (and two of them were more prevalent in 2009 than the year that they came out) Here's a video and listen to the songs shown in the clip. Most of them were various kinds of genres. 2008 songsFor Social media, Myspace was king, and Facebook just started to rise. Then, people also used AIM/Yahoo Messenger/MSN. Twitter was not on anyone's radar even it already existed at the time. No one mentioned the site in casual conversations. They only talked about Myspace and Facebook. Also, even though Youtube was already famous at this time, it was entirely different from the early 10s version. The ratings were five stars instead of likes and dislikes. The videos themselves were more amateur rather than corporate, and there was hardly any youtube celebrities or viral videos at that time. For technology, Apple may have released the first iPhone that year, but that doesn't mean the majority of the public had one. Most people still had either a Flip phone, Slide phone, or a Clam phone. Broadband was still universal in most households compared to wi-fi. Then, some people forget that texting and calling family, friends, and other acquaintances were not free. There was no such thing as unlimited data plans back then. It would cost money to call someone or message them for 5 to 10 minutes. Plus, landlines and payphones were still ordinary for people to use if they didn't have a mobile device. Then we get to the part where most folks had a tool designed for specific activities. For photos, most people still used digital cameras, whether it was for personal use or professional use. A photo taken by cell phone during that period looked awful, blurry and too small. For music, the majority still used iPods or Mp3 players. Then for videos, the standard was DVDs and Bluray. None of these didn't get better or integrated until smartphones became popular unless someone either had a T-Mobile G1, the MyTouch, the Droid or the Sidekick. The game consoles of the day were Nintendo DS, Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 and the three home ones still had the original version. Plus, The slim/color ones were not out until late 2009 for the PS3 and Wii and 2010 for the 360.
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Post by Lyndialy on Aug 16, 2019 7:56:30 GMT 10
The problem with your argument is that you seem to think that anyone who isn't a straight white male automatically doesn't agree with the abortion laws. There are black women that are pro-life. Not all women are pro-choice and some women do agree with the abortion laws. And they're not all just white women Also, black-on-black crime kind of is a serious issue. I'm going to be very honest here. I think the reason people perceive black people to be "more dangerous" is either because of the way they're portrayed in the media or the fact that black people statistically commit the most crime in the country, or both. It comes from implicit racial bias and we usually form that based on what's around us. I think both are a big problem and give black people a bad reputation. Now as someone that is half-black, I can't say I've ever been followed around in store, and I don't pay attention to race because it's not relevant to me, but I can still acknowledge that it hasn't gone away and we can take further steps to reduce it. Also, racism doesn't just affect black people. 90% of black people are democrat. Women are more likely to be democrat than men. Democrats are the party of choice (abortion), universal healthcare, and a $15hr minimum wage. So when you say "There are black women that are pro-life" you're speaking of a very small minority here. Most republican women are white. Its not just which political party you belong to. If black women are disporportionally getting abortions, that must mean black women are very pro choice. And when white men, the privileged opposite of black women, are infringing on their rights, then it will disporportionally affect them. You mention that portrayal is important. I already said before how most people in power are straight white men. These people do not have the same experiences and viewpoints as others who aren't as privileged as they are. Thats why minorities running is important. Its also important to check your privilege and realize you receive advantages off your identity alone that others dont get. Let me use you as an example rainbow. You're part of a privileged group (heterosexual) and so are people in power. You don't have to worry about these people infringing on your marriage rights. You've never had to come out to your parents and you dont face homophobia because you're straight. Its that simple. Being heterosexual doesnt mean your life is hard, but your heterosexuality isnt one of the factors that make your life harder. Same concept with white privilege. The idea of abortion and same-sex marriage conflicts with my religion. It is sinful, therefore I don't concur with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:13:56 GMT 10
Let's try to stay on topic, everyone.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 16, 2019 17:33:03 GMT 10
If we were to look at the top 100 songs of 2008, that year barely had any electropop tracks besides "I Kissed a Girl," "Poker Face" and "Just Dance. (and two of them were more prevalent in 2009 than the year that they came out) Maybe i'm in the minority over this, but I honestly feel as though the three songs you mentioned (possibly with the only exception being "Poker Face") would have sounded outdated if they had been released in the Early 2010s. I have never really understood why some people insist that they are examples of Early 2010s music, because when you compare them to the electropop songs that were popular during that era, they are stylistically quite different in more ways than one. For instance, "I Kissed A Girl" is actually a pop-rock track that has a guitar riff in the chorus and features elements of new-wave. It sounds notably outdated when you compare it to Katy Perry's Early '10s songs, such as "Fireworks" and "Roar". As for Lady Gaga's two songs, the synths used in "Just Dance" are quite of their time and the song itself isn't as artsy/experimental in comparison to Lady Gaga's later electropop singles. "Poker Face" would have sounded outdated if it had been released any later than 2011. I feel as though people sometimes have a tendency to overstate the impact that Lady Gaga's breakthrough had on music at the time. While her arrival onto the scene was significant in it's own right, electropop and synth-music didn't just suddenly saturate the Top-40 charts overnight. It wasn't until the last few months of 2009, when Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" and Kesha's "Tik Tok" became huge hits, that electropop really started to dominate the overall Top-40 music scene. That's why "Bad Romance" is quite often the first song that comes to mind when people think back to when Lady Gaga became successful.
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Post by John Titor on Aug 17, 2019 1:14:01 GMT 10
If we were to look at the top 100 songs of 2008, that year barely had any electropop tracks besides "I Kissed a Girl," "Poker Face" and "Just Dance. (and two of them were more prevalent in 2009 than the year that they came out) Maybe i'm in the minority over this, but I honestly feel as though the three songs you mentioned (possibly with the only exception being "Poker Face") would have sounded outdated if they had been released in the Early 2010s. I have never really understood why some people insist that they are examples of Early 2010s music, because when you compare them to the electropop songs that were popular during that era, they are stylistically quite different in more ways than one. For instance, "I Kissed A Girl" is actually a pop-rock track that has a guitar riff in the chorus and features elements of new-wave. It sounds notably outdated when you compare it to Katy Perry's Early '10s songs, such as "Fireworks" and "Roar". As for Lady Gaga's two songs, the synths used in "Just Dance" are quite of their time and the song itself isn't as artsy/experimental in comparison to Lady Gaga's later electropop singles. "Poker Face" would have sounded outdated if it had been released any later than 2011. I feel as though people sometimes have a tendency to overstate the impact that Lady Gaga's breakthrough had on music at the time. While her arrival onto the scene was significant in it's own right, electropop and synth-music didn't just suddenly saturate the Top-40 charts overnight. It wasn't until the last few months of 2009, when Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" and Kesha's "Tik Tok" became huge hits, that electropop really started to dominate the overall Top-40 music scene. That's why "Bad Romance" is quite often the first song that comes to mind when people think back to when Lady Gaga became successful. There were songs that were more upbeat in 2008, Chris Brown's Forever, and Timbaland helped bridge hip hop with Dance music with all the songs he produced with Nelly Furtado in 2006, it was going to happen regardless of Gaga.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 18, 2019 1:35:07 GMT 10
If we were to look at the top 100 songs of 2008, that year barely had any electropop tracks besides "I Kissed a Girl," "Poker Face" and "Just Dance. (and two of them were more prevalent in 2009 than the year that they came out) Maybe i'm in the minority over this, but I honestly feel as though the three songs you mentioned (possibly with the only exception being "Poker Face") would have sounded outdated if they had been released in the Early 2010s. I have never really understood why some people insist that they are examples of Early 2010s music, because when you compare them to the electropop songs that were popular during that era, they are stylistically quite different in more ways than one. For instance, "I Kissed A Girl" is actually a pop-rock track that has a guitar riff in the chorus and features elements of new-wave. It sounds notably outdated when you compare it to Katy Perry's Early '10s songs, such as "Fireworks" and "Roar". As for Lady Gaga's two songs, the synths used in "Just Dance" are quite of their time and the song itself isn't as artsy/experimental in comparison to Lady Gaga's later electropop singles. "Poker Face" would have sounded outdated if it had been released any later than 2011. I feel as though people sometimes have a tendency to overstate the impact that Lady Gaga's breakthrough had on music at the time. While her arrival onto the scene was significant in it's own right, electropop and synth-music didn't just suddenly saturate the Top-40 charts overnight. It wasn't until the last few months of 2009, when Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" and Kesha's "Tik Tok" became huge hits, that electropop really started to dominate the overall Top-40 music scene. That's why "Bad Romance" is quite often the first song that comes to mind when people think back to when Lady Gaga became successful. Don’t forget Party In The USA in late 2009.
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