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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 10, 2019 20:40:26 GMT 10
In this next installment of 2010s retrospective threads, I thought it would be interesting to cover a genre of music which has saturated the music industry over the past couple of years; Trap.
What is your overall opinion of Trap music? What has your experiences of the genre been like (e.g is it popular with people around your age) and are there any Trap songs that you like? Do you believe people will look back on it favourably in the years to come?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 10, 2019 21:29:21 GMT 10
I feel as though people around my age (Late '90s borns) have experienced Trap music in the same way as Late '80s borns identified with the Emo scene. There are some prominent Late '90s born rappers in the Soundcloud Rap scene (e.g XXXTentacision) and a minority of us are into the music itself, however we're not the core target audience for the music. I'm of the belief that it has always catered more to Early-Mid 2000s borns. It just doesn't feel as though it is "my music" so to speak and that isn't because i'm simply not a fan of the genre. Case in point, I consider the EDM and indie music of the Mid 2010s to be "my era" for music. I know for a fact that Trap wasn't popular with the people in my year group (Class of 2017).
Personally, I strongly detest Trap as a music genre, as it embodies everything that I hate about the current times and the 2010s in general. Trap 'musicians', for the most part, are complete scumbags who rap about degrading women, abusing drugs, disrespecting minority groups and use racial/homophobic slurs to get their deplorable messages across. It's the worst genre of music I have ever personally experienced in my lifetime. I'm just thankful that I graduated from high school just before it reached the peak of it's popularity. I also don't know anyone personally who is a fan of the genre, so I have really dodged a bullet there.
There's really no Trap songs that I can say I genuinely like. Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road" is as good as the genre gets for me and while I wouldn't consider myself to be a huge fan of the song, I can at least appreciate it for what it is. Credit where credit's due. I like the fact that the lyrics in the song are witty in their nature; Billy Ray-Cyrus rapping about the stereotypical "bling" style which is commonly associated with rappers, while Lil Nas X sings about country themes such as riding a horse. It's quite a nice example of role swapping and the end result is respectable.
Otherwise, probably the next best thing to come out of the Trap scene would have to be "Earfquake" by Tyler, The Creator. Again, I wouldn't call myself a fan of this song, but at least the rapping in this is only confined to the bridge (which is only brief anyway). Stylistically, it is also much more interesting than the shit that the vast majority of Trap artists manage to spew up. I would rather listen to "Earfquake" than anything by Lil Peep or 6ix9ine.
I tend to think that Trap won't age well and the only people who will look back on the genre favourably will be the people who were fans during the Late 2010s.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 22:12:47 GMT 10
I would rather listen to anything Tyler puts out, because the man is a genius. Hell, I'll take Tyler over southern-style rap that I grew up with in the '00s, the sort of stuff I get nostalgic about.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 10, 2019 22:21:06 GMT 10
I would rather listen to anything Tyler puts out, because the man is a genius. Hell, I'll take Tyler over southern-style rap that I grew up with in the '00s, the sort of stuff I get nostalgic about. "Earfquake" is the only Tyler song i'm familiar with, to be honest. What are his other songs like?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 22:30:16 GMT 10
I would rather listen to anything Tyler puts out, because the man is a genius. Hell, I'll take Tyler over southern-style rap that I grew up with in the '00s, the sort of stuff I get nostalgic about. "Earfquake" is the only Tyler song i'm familiar with, to be honest. What are his other songs like? Full disclosure: Tyler's latest efforts have been artsier than his earlier catalogue, because he's really been trying to push the envelope in terms of hip-hop/R&B and what he can do with it. More typical fare from Tyler: (Tyler starts around 2:13)
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 10, 2019 22:42:06 GMT 10
Full disclosure: Tyler's latest efforts have been artsier than his earlier catalogue, because he's really been trying to push the envelope in terms of hip-hop/R&B and what he can do with it. More typical fare from Tyler: Ah okay, that's interesting to hear. To be completely honest, i'm not a fan of rap music in general, but lately I've become a bit intrigued by Tyler's work as he seems to receive much more appraisal than other contemporary rappers. Basically, I have just wanted to know what sets him apart from everyone else. Is it simply the fact that he has been trying to push the envelope in recent years or was his earlier catalogue positively received by critics/fans as well?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 0:45:02 GMT 10
I prefer to call it crap music. 1990s/21st century music just doesn't interest me, irrespective of genre.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 1:06:35 GMT 10
Full disclosure: Tyler's latest efforts have been artsier than his earlier catalogue, because he's really been trying to push the envelope in terms of hip-hop/R&B and what he can do with it. More typical fare from Tyler: Ah okay, that's interesting to hear. To be completely honest, i'm not a fan of rap music in general, but lately I've become a bit intrigued by Tyler's work as he seems to receive much more appraisal than other contemporary rappers. Basically, I have just wanted to know what sets him apart from everyone else. Is it simply the fact that he has been trying to push the envelope in recent years or was his earlier catalogue positively received by critics/fans as well? I mean, Tyler has long had a dedicated following and his albums have been (mostly) positive received, but it was around 2017 or so that he really took off. Not that he wasn’t part of the mainstream before then, but he’s gone from successful to meteoric in the last couple years.
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Post by #Infinity on Aug 27, 2019 7:39:17 GMT 10
I'm mostly just sick of the robotic, monotone mumble with which most traditional trap songs are performed. The style is not inherently bad and in fact I think trap snares can be used to excellent effect if they actually propel the piece or launch into something. Instead, the stereotypical disposable trap song just sounds like a stiff piece of apathy with a bunch of scuttling noises that stick out over everything else. If done right, like on "This Is America", trap can communicate anxious claustrophobia, but most songs you see dominating the charts feel as though little to no effort was put into making them interesting.
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Post by Cassie on Aug 27, 2019 11:26:31 GMT 10
Trap is the worst, I hate it so much.
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Post by ItsMichael on Aug 29, 2019 7:02:58 GMT 10
That determines what kind of trap music we are talking about. Mostly, trap music nowadays features mumble rap which makes trap music bad. I hate mumble rap so much. If there are trap songs but with much better rappers such as Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, A$AP Rocky, Tyler the creator or J.I.D, then I would definitely listen to it.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Dec 27, 2019 6:53:20 GMT 10
Trap music sucks ass. Yes, I've mentioned this many times but I'm just so frustrated about what's happening In the charts right now. Back in 2013-2016, I enjoyed trap music because it sounded new and fresh, and Trap had more of a pop sound. But as time passes by, it just gets more and more repetitive and annoying. Now, you just put toothpaste on your tongue, speak gibberish about drugs, sex, flexing, or killing innocent people and laughing about it. I feel like Trap is being played at nausea. This is the definition of bullshit!
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Post by sman12 on Dec 27, 2019 9:08:15 GMT 10
Trap isn't all that bad to me. I enjoy some artists who have trap elements in their music like the aforementioned Tyler, the Creator and Travis Scott. I even enjoy instrumentals from Trap Nation from time to time.
But yeah, trap rappers like 6ix9ine do ruin the subgenre for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 10:52:35 GMT 10
7 years after people have been saying "Trap is EVERYWHERE!" I'm still not sure I know what trap even is. I can tell what mumble rap is though and it is indeed annoying.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 6, 2020 21:42:36 GMT 10
This song is featured on the soundtrack of FIFA 19. I would have to be one of the biggest critics of trap/mumble rap out there, but I really don't understand why most of the trap songs which have become popular over the past few years haven't been as creative and experimental as what this one is. "Tribe" at least makes use of trap snares in such a way that it actually boosts the song and gives it an injection of life. Instead, we've been treated to robotic and repetitive crap from the likes of Lil Uzi Vert, Drake, XXXTentacion etc. on the Top-40 charts.
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