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Post by John Titor on Sept 25, 2019 5:09:17 GMT 10
To further expand upon this while 1997 had a Hybrid y2k and core 90s vibe, by September we were fully into the y2k era
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Post by mc98 on Sept 25, 2019 10:15:13 GMT 10
You could also tell that the 1997-1998 school year felt like the end of core 90s. The Grunge fashion was dead by then and fashion became more colorful and cheery:
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Post by John Titor on Oct 8, 2019 13:56:33 GMT 10
core 90s mixed with incoming millennium era stuff By Fall 97 the y2k era was in full effect, no one was really wearing grunge by then. it was a FUN year!
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Oct 22, 2019 16:27:17 GMT 10
I know you'll disagree with me on this, but we all have different opinions. I still consider 1997 to 1998 part of the core 90s.
If we talk about late 1997, I think of:
-Backstreet Boys (Y2K)
-Spice Girls (Y2K)
-Third Eye Blind (Core 90s)
-Titanic (Core 90s, nothing Y2K about it)
-LeAnn Rimes (Core 90s, How do I live is a slow R&B song similar to I will always love you by Whitney)
-Tubthumping (Core 90s)
-Mariah Carey (Y2K)
-Barbie Girl (Core 90s)
-Candle In the wind by Elton John (Core 90s)
-Y2K metallic fashion (Y2K, so obvious)
-All cried out by Allure (Core 90s, another ballad)
We have different opinions. I consider Late 1996 to Mid 1998 the Pre-Y2K Late 90s, but that's just me, it's just that lots of core 90s stuff still lingered until Late 1998. 1997 is a Core 90s/Y2K hybrid from start to finish. I may not consider it part of the Y2K era, but it is definitely better than the mid 90s, which we can both agree on.
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Post by mc98 on Oct 23, 2019 0:21:52 GMT 10
I know you'll disagree with me on this, but we all have different opinions. I still consider 1997 to 1998 part of the core 90s. If we talk about late 1997, I think of: -Backstreet Boys (Y2K) -Spice Girls (Y2K) -Third Eye Blind (Core 90s) -Titanic (Core 90s, nothing Y2K about it) -LeAnn Rimes (Core 90s, How do I live is a slow R&B song similar to I will always love you by Whitney) -Tubthumping (Core 90s) -Mariah Carey (Y2K) -Barbie Girl (Core 90s) -Candle In the wind by Elton John (Core 90s) -Y2K metallic fashion (Y2K, so obvious) -All cried out by Allure (Core 90s, another ballad) We have different opinions. I consider Late 1996 to Mid 1998 the Pre-Y2K Late 90s, but that's just me, it's just that lots of core 90s stuff still lingered until Late 1998. 1997 is a Core 90s/Y2K hybrid from start to finish. I may not consider it part of the Y2K era, but it is definitely better than the mid 90s, which we can both agree on. I would say the 90s zeitgeist would be 1991/1992 - 1997/1998
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Post by TheUser98 on Oct 23, 2019 1:56:49 GMT 10
I always felt as though late 1997 would have been a bit of a depressing time. The news of Princess Diana’s death at the end of August that year really caused a shock around the world and 2 billion people across the globe watched her funeral live in September of that year. Some of the pop music also reflected the sad mood of the time especially in the UK where the first song that reached #1 after Diana’s death, “The Drugs Don’t Work” by the Verve, was described as unintentionally capturing the spirit of a nation in mourning, then of course you also had Elton John’s tribute song “Candle In The Wind”.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 23, 2019 5:35:26 GMT 10
I know you'll disagree with me on this, but we all have different opinions. I still consider 1997 to 1998 part of the core 90s. If we talk about late 1997, I think of: -Backstreet Boys (Y2K) -Spice Girls (Y2K) -Third Eye Blind (Core 90s) -Titanic (Core 90s, nothing Y2K about it) -LeAnn Rimes (Core 90s, How do I live is a slow R&B song similar to I will always love you by Whitney) -Tubthumping (Core 90s) -Mariah Carey (Y2K) -Barbie Girl (Core 90s) -Candle In the wind by Elton John (Core 90s) -Y2K metallic fashion (Y2K, so obvious) -All cried out by Allure (Core 90s, another ballad) We have different opinions. I consider Late 1996 to Mid 1998 the Pre-Y2K Late 90s, but that's just me, it's just that lots of core 90s stuff still lingered until Late 1998. 1997 is a Core 90s/Y2K hybrid from start to finish. I may not consider it part of the Y2K era, but it is definitely better than the mid 90s, which we can both agree on. We can both agree to disagree, for me tho having been in 4th grade during this year I remember all of it vivid as hell, now while 1997 in general had a mix of core 90s trends meshing with y2k era, the y2k era was in full effect. I will list some other reasons not mentioned. This is all in Fall 97 (September) - Max Martin was producing songs for many artist including Robyn, Backstreet boys etc etc (shaping the teen pop landscape) - Fonts in commercials had this y2k look to them, not all of them but you were starting to see more futuristic logos - Playstation overtaking Nintendo in popularity and in sales - Frosted tips came into play - Shiny suit era of rap I know I am forgetting tons of stuff but by September of 97 it felt like we were in a new era, the only thing I can give is TGIF commercial breaks where that Falls episodes atmosphere felt VERY " y2k mood atmospheric"
TGIF Fall 97 bumpers
MTV TRL Fall 1997 ( was known as MTV LIVE until 1998)
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Post by John Titor on Oct 23, 2019 8:21:07 GMT 10
@theuser98
good to see you aboard ! For some reason I always forget you are on here lol
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Oct 23, 2019 9:10:50 GMT 10
I know you'll disagree with me on this, but we all have different opinions. I still consider 1997 to 1998 part of the core 90s. If we talk about late 1997, I think of: -Backstreet Boys (Y2K) -Spice Girls (Y2K) -Third Eye Blind (Core 90s) -Titanic (Core 90s, nothing Y2K about it) -LeAnn Rimes (Core 90s, How do I live is a slow R&B song similar to I will always love you by Whitney) -Tubthumping (Core 90s) -Mariah Carey (Y2K) -Barbie Girl (Core 90s) -Candle In the wind by Elton John (Core 90s) -Y2K metallic fashion (Y2K, so obvious) -All cried out by Allure (Core 90s, another ballad) We have different opinions. I consider Late 1996 to Mid 1998 the Pre-Y2K Late 90s, but that's just me, it's just that lots of core 90s stuff still lingered until Late 1998. 1997 is a Core 90s/Y2K hybrid from start to finish. I may not consider it part of the Y2K era, but it is definitely better than the mid 90s, which we can both agree on. We can both agree to disagree, for me tho having been in 4th grade during this year I remember all of it vivid as hell, now while 1997 in general had a mix of core 90s trends meshing with y2k era, the y2k era was in full effect. I will list some other reasons not mentioned. This is all in Fall 97 (September) - Max Martin was producing songs for many artist including Robyn, Backstreet boys etc etc (shaping the teen pop landscape) - Fonts in commercials had this y2k look to them, not all of them but you were starting to see more futuristic logos - Playstation overtaking Nintendo in popularity and in sales - Frosted tips came into play - Shiny suit era of rap I know I am forgetting tons of stuff but by September of 97 it felt like we were in a new era, the only thing I can give is TGIF commercial breaks where that Falls episodes atmosphere felt VERY " y2k mood atmospheric"
TGIF Fall 97 bumpers
MTV TRL Fall 1997 ( was known as MTV LIVE until 1998)Yeah. I mean- I understand you REALLY DISLIKE the Mid 90s because of how crappy the aesthetic was and the music wasnt one of your tastes. Same here, I do like grunge, but I prefer Y2K music over Mid 90s any day. For some people though, even January to August 1998 felt Core 90s for multiple reasons. Heck, the song too close sounds very 90s with New Jack Swing remains in the song. Sorry if I keep disagreeing btw...
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Post by John Titor on Oct 23, 2019 9:24:55 GMT 10
We can both agree to disagree, for me tho having been in 4th grade during this year I remember all of it vivid as hell, now while 1997 in general had a mix of core 90s trends meshing with y2k era, the y2k era was in full effect. I will list some other reasons not mentioned. This is all in Fall 97 (September) - Max Martin was producing songs for many artist including Robyn, Backstreet boys etc etc (shaping the teen pop landscape) - Fonts in commercials had this y2k look to them, not all of them but you were starting to see more futuristic logos - Playstation overtaking Nintendo in popularity and in sales - Frosted tips came into play - Shiny suit era of rap I know I am forgetting tons of stuff but by September of 97 it felt like we were in a new era, the only thing I can give is TGIF commercial breaks where that Falls episodes atmosphere felt VERY " y2k mood atmospheric"
TGIF Fall 97 bumpers
MTV TRL Fall 1997 ( was known as MTV LIVE until 1998)Yeah. I mean- I understand you REALLY DISLIKE the Mid 90s because of how crappy the aesthetic was and the music wasnt one of your tastes. Same here, I do like grunge, but I prefer Y2K music over Mid 90s any day. For some people though, even January to August 1998 felt Core 90s for multiple reasons. Heck, the song too close sounds very 90s with New Jack Swing remains in the song. Sorry if I keep disagreeing btw... Well I wouldn't say dislike, I liked playing Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis during the mid 90's it's just the pessimistic attitudes during that time were annoying.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Oct 23, 2019 15:02:45 GMT 10
Yeah. I mean- I understand you REALLY DISLIKE the Mid 90s because of how crappy the aesthetic was and the music wasnt one of your tastes. Same here, I do like grunge, but I prefer Y2K music over Mid 90s any day. For some people though, even January to August 1998 felt Core 90s for multiple reasons. Heck, the song too close sounds very 90s with New Jack Swing remains in the song. Sorry if I keep disagreeing btw... Well I wouldn't say dislike, I liked playing Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis during the mid 90's it's just the pessimistic attitudes during that time were annoying. Yeah, I agree. The movie Mid90s captures it very accurately, and ohh boy was the whole vibe was so dark, and the bloody red text on posters, oh my god.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 23, 2019 15:12:23 GMT 10
I always felt as though late 1997 would have been a bit of a depressing time. The news of Princess Diana’s death at the end of August that year really caused a shock around the world and 2 billion people across the globe watched her funeral live in September of that year. Some of the pop music also reflected the sad mood of the time especially in the UK where the first song that reached #1 after Diana’s death, “The Drugs Don’t Work” by the Verve, was described as unintentionally capturing the spirit of a nation in mourning, then of course you also had Elton John’s tribute song “Candle In The Wind”. To add on from those points, INXS' Michael Hutchence took his own life in November 1997, which made international headlines as well.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 24, 2019 6:45:04 GMT 10
Well I wouldn't say dislike, I liked playing Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis during the mid 90's it's just the pessimistic attitudes during that time were annoying. Yeah, I agree. The movie Mid90s captures it very accurately, and ohh boy was the whole vibe was so dark, and the bloody red text on posters, oh my god. I have yet to see it but I imagine it will look like exactly how it was when I was little
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Post by Telso on Oct 29, 2019 9:50:37 GMT 10
How so? If anything she's by far the most core-90s out of your entire list as she was a very successful artist since the year 1990 and stayed like this for the entire 90s, and is mostly remembered for her hits like "Emotion", "Hero", "Fantasy" and "All I Want for Christmas is You". In comparison, a lot of her hits of the Y2K era were throwaway and pretty forgettable at best.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Oct 30, 2019 7:22:37 GMT 10
How so? If anything she's by far the most core-90s out of your entire list as she was a very successful artist since the year 1990 and stayed like this for the entire 90s, and is mostly remembered for her hits like "Emotion", "Hero", "Fantasy" and "All I Want for Christmas is You". In comparison, a lot of her hits of the Y2K era were throwaway and pretty forgettable at best. Her songs released in 1997 sound more Y2K.
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