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Post by kev2000sfan on Nov 22, 2019 11:05:40 GMT 10
I pretty much hate it personally, for petty reasons tho. For me, there's no benefit watching it because its not me. My bros watch it and I'm always questionable since they actually get laid on a daily basis. Only purpose I see for it, I mean. It can teach you some tips.
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Post by EyewitnessTV on Nov 22, 2019 16:30:26 GMT 10
You all need to take several seats. My number wasn't far off www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201802/when-is-porn-use-problemTo better understand how these factors interact, Daspe and colleagues (2018) recruited people in relationships to complete an online survey about pornography use, relationship and sexual satisfaction, and other factors. In terms of basic results, they found that 73 percent of women and 98 percent of men reported internet porn use in the last six months, for a total of 85 percent of respondents. For porn use within the last week, the numbers were lower: 80 percent of men and 26 percent of women. Did that ask every living human to get those results? Such a small sample so it’s impossible to actually put a % on it. As I said, men would likely watch it more than women but I highly doubt 99.9% of the male population does. It’s probably not even in the 90s. FYI I have no interest in this sort of activity! I had no idea you guys were so prudish If you knew me personally, not at all. It simply does nothing for me and I never got into the “habit” of it at any stage, and seeing other people have sex is something that doesn’t interests me in the slightest. I would rather do it myself than watch others go at it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 1:47:19 GMT 10
You all need to take several seats. My number wasn't far off www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/201802/when-is-porn-use-problemTo better understand how these factors interact, Daspe and colleagues (2018) recruited people in relationships to complete an online survey about pornography use, relationship and sexual satisfaction, and other factors. In terms of basic results, they found that 73 percent of women and 98 percent of men reported internet porn use in the last six months, for a total of 85 percent of respondents. For porn use within the last week, the numbers were lower: 80 percent of men and 26 percent of women. That's only a sample statistics result, it shouldn't be perceived as being representative of the views the greater population have at large. The only true method in which you would get an accurate measure on the acceptance of pornography would be to conduct a census or at the very least, carry out a sample survey where people from a number of different backgrounds were asked (instead of just couples between the ages of 18-35). Also, there's always going to be a degree of uncertainty over the validity of internet surveys. How do we know that the people responding to the survey were being 100% honest? I think if that's the number for people in relationships, the number for people outside of relationships would be even higher. Also, why would someone lie? I think if anyone was lying, it would be about how they don't watch porn, just like you, Captain Nemo, and EyewitnessTV are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 11:34:48 GMT 10
Damn guys, live a little.
Seriously though, there needs to be a third option: Who cares? Let people do what they want. As long as they're not letting it become an unhealthily dominant part of their lives, there's nothing wrong with looking at or watching some porn. I seem to remember there being a study, even, that concluded men who watched porn tended to treat women better, contrary to popular belief.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 23, 2019 15:46:21 GMT 10
Damn guys, live a little. Seriously though, there needs to be a third option: Who cares? Let people do what they want. As long as they're not letting it become an unhealthily dominant part of their lives, there's nothing wrong with looking at or watching some porn. I seem to remember there being a study, even, that concluded men who watched porn tended to treat women better, contrary to popular belief. I didn't include a third option because I knew that would make the votes too predictable. With only two options, it allows for the poll results to be more surprising, and it also allows for more in-depth discussion from those who would be neutral but with a two-way poll have to choose one or the other, as they would have to explain further their position in the comments. Also, keep in mind, this is not about whether or not pornography should be legal or not, this is just based on whether or not you think pornography is beneficial or not.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 23, 2019 19:38:03 GMT 10
That's only a sample statistics result, it shouldn't be perceived as being representative of the views the greater population have at large. The only true method in which you would get an accurate measure on the acceptance of pornography would be to conduct a census or at the very least, carry out a sample survey where people from a number of different backgrounds were asked (instead of just couples between the ages of 18-35). Also, there's always going to be a degree of uncertainty over the validity of internet surveys. How do we know that the people responding to the survey were being 100% honest? I think if that's the number for people in relationships, the number for people outside of relationships would be even higher. Also, why would someone lie? I think if anyone was lying, it would be about how they don't watch porn, just like you, Captain Nemo , and EyewitnessTV are doing. Where's the evidence for that though? An internet sample survey can't be used as an indicator of the views held by other demographics. It's insufficient. Like I said, there's a degree of uncertainty over the validity of the results as it is. Are the people who responded to the survey all of the same ethnicity, income status, upbringing etc. ? How can we conclude that family upbringing, ethnicity and wealth doesn't have an influence on the views people have over accessing pornography? There's so many unknowns in this. More research needs to be carried before we can even consider making a judgement that the majority of men out there access pornography or have done so in the past. Why? It's the internet. People can take the piss out of things and an internet survey over something as taboo as porn is going to appeal to those who like to troll. I'm not the one lying. I think you are by saying that 99% of men have watched porn. Show me real evidence first.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 23:46:50 GMT 10
I think if that's the number for people in relationships, the number for people outside of relationships would be even higher. Also, why would someone lie? I think if anyone was lying, it would be about how they don't watch porn, just like you, Captain Nemo , and EyewitnessTV are doing. Where's the evidence for that though? An internet sample survey can't be used as an indicator of the views held by other demographics. It's insufficient. Like I said, there's a degree of uncertainty over the validity of the results as it is. Are the people who responded to the survey all of the same ethnicity, income status, upbringing etc. ? How can we conclude that family upbringing, ethnicity and wealth doesn't have an influence on the views people have over accessing pornography? There's so many unknowns in this. More research needs to be carried before we can even consider making a judgement that the majority of men out there access pornography or have done so in the past. Why? It's the internet. People can take the piss out of things and an internet survey over something as taboo as porn is going to appeal to those who like to troll. I'm not the one lying. I think you are by saying that 99% of men have watched porn. Show me real evidence first. I'm a data scientist by profession so I know what you're trying to do, but with a large sample like 1000 and a strong result like 98 per cent, even IF the sample is biased in any way it's not going to be that different if you ask another 1000 different set of people. It still going to be in the ballpark of 98 per cent, that's just how strong the number is. Close but no cigar for you. It's like if you go out and ask 1000 people if they like Avril Lavigne's song Girlfriend, and 0% say yes. But then you're so desperate to be right that you ask another 1000 random people and hope 100% of them say yes, so you can go on believing that most people like that song. Sorry but that never happens, it's still going to be close to 0%.
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Post by Cassie on Nov 24, 2019 3:26:42 GMT 10
I thought about it more and I have come to not mind porn. Guys have things they like, and porn could just be relief to them.
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Post by al on Nov 24, 2019 10:33:36 GMT 10
This survey reminds me a little of one I read recently the claimed around 30% of young people shopped in the opposite gender’s department sometimes. My thought was, “For what? Shampoo and razors?” The article was actually about clothing and implied the data as such. Numbers can be skewed not just by who’s being asked but also by one’s perception of what they are being asked. “Porn” doesn’t have to mean the raunchiest of sex tapes. It could be a Tumblr page or a magazine for all we know. I’m not knowledgeable on “average” habits but just throwing it out there. I find this discussion to be very fascinating because it has run in an opposite course of most I’ve had irl or otherwise. Well, I can’t say I’ve had that many in relation to porn specifically, but at least those in a similarly sexual nature. With the pro camp initially in the minority, its use became like something to defend. In years past this might may not have been unusual, but in today’s world where having a “sex life” can seem as expected as taking regular showers, it’s kind of amusing. Especially when personally I’ve felt cornered in the opposite direction several times. I suppose my point being, there still are a lot of differing opinions out there, and they can make either side uncomfortable depending on how they’re framed. The media particularly has a way of speaking which tends to ignore that, but I’ll stop before I divert the topic over to that. I didn't include a third option because I knew that would make the votes too predictable. With only two options, it allows for the poll results to be more surprising, and it also allows for more in-depth discussion from those who would be neutral but with a two-way poll have to choose one or the other, as they would have to explain further their position in the comments. Yes American politics are a great testament to this principle. Lol.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 24, 2019 20:34:29 GMT 10
I'm a data scientist by profession so I know what you're trying to do, but with a large sample like 1000 and a strong result like 98 per cent, even IF the sample is biased in any way it's not going to be that different if you ask another 1000 different set of people. It still going to be in the ballpark of 98 per cent, that's just how strong the number is. Close but no cigar for you. It's like if you go out and ask 1000 people if they like Avril Lavigne's song Girlfriend, and 0% say yes. But then you're so desperate to be right that you ask another 1000 random people and hope 100% of them say yes, so you can go on believing that most people like that song. Sorry but that never happens, it's still going to be close to 0%. I can see what you're saying, but a result doesn't have to be heavily biased towards one end of the spectrum to prove a point. There's still going to be various factors, whether internal or external, which are going to influence the final outcome one way or another. Using that Avril Lavigne example, for instance, If I had asked a 1,000 people at random over the age of 50 if they happen to like "Girlfriend", there's a greater chance that the final result will be close to 0%. However, what if I applied the same methodology when asking people under the age of 30; i.e, people who were either kids or teens when "Girlfriend" was a hit back in 2007 (the demographic most engaged with Top-40 music at the time). The likelihood of a "yes" vote is only going to increase. Narrowing the focus field even further could yield a far more resounding "yes" vote, such as if I had asked women who were teens at the time or people who are fans of pop music. Likewise, it could also swing in the opposite direction depending on who I ask. It all depends on the independent variable. Someone who grows up in a poor, crime-ridden environment where they are exposed to greater levels of violence against woman (e.g rape, assault), has a greater likelihood of perceiving pornography much more favourably in adulthood to someone who grew up in a white-collar household and was raised with high morals and values. There are several factors, whether it be a conscious belief held by a person, their identity (e.g age, race, gender) or the way in which they were raised, which ultimately shapes a person's worldview and perception over the idea of pornography and whether it is "good" or "bad". You can't put all of your eggs in one basket and assume that every set of 1,000 people out there, regardless of their views or whether or not they are in a relationship, is going to return a result which is 98% or very close to it. There are a lot of people who are strongly opposed to porn. Pornography treats the people who appear in sex images/magazines as "objects" and strips the humanity away from them. It can be degrading towards both genders, especially females.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 21:47:05 GMT 10
I'm a data scientist by profession so I know what you're trying to do, but with a large sample like 1000 and a strong result like 98 per cent, even IF the sample is biased in any way it's not going to be that different if you ask another 1000 different set of people. It still going to be in the ballpark of 98 per cent, that's just how strong the number is. Close but no cigar for you. It's like if you go out and ask 1000 people if they like Avril Lavigne's song Girlfriend, and 0% say yes. But then you're so desperate to be right that you ask another 1000 random people and hope 100% of them say yes, so you can go on believing that most people like that song. Sorry but that never happens, it's still going to be close to 0%. I can see what you're saying, but a result doesn't have to be heavily biased towards one end of the spectrum to prove a point. There's still going to be various factors, whether internal or external, which are going to influence the final outcome one way or another. Using that Avril Lavigne example, for instance, If I had asked a 1,000 people at random over the age of 50 if they happen to like "Girlfriend", there's a greater chance that the final result will be close to 0%. However, what if I applied the same methodology when asking people under the age of 30; i.e, people who were either kids or teens when "Girlfriend" was a hit back in 2007 (the demographic most engaged with Top-40 music at the time). The likelihood of a "yes" vote is only going to increase. Narrowing the focus field even further could yield a far more resounding "yes" vote, such as if I had asked women who were teens at the time or people who are fans of pop music. Likewise, it could also swing in the opposite direction depending on who I ask. It all depends on the independent variable. Someone who grows up in a poor, crime-ridden environment where they are exposed to greater levels of violence against woman (e.g rape, assault), has a greater likelihood of perceiving pornography much more favourably in adulthood to someone who grew up in a white-collar household and was raised with high morals and values. There are several factors, whether it be a conscious belief held by a person, their identity (e.g age, race, gender) or the way in which they were raised, which ultimately shapes a person's worldview and perception over the idea of pornography and whether it is "good" or "bad". You can't put all of your eggs in one basket and assume that every set of 1,000 people out there, regardless of their views or whether or not they are in a relationship, is going to return a result which is 98% or very close to it. There are a lot of people who are strongly opposed to porn. Pornography treats the people who appear in sex images/magazines as "objects" and strips the humanity away from them. It can be degrading towards both genders, especially females. There's no reason to assume these 1000 people are specifically people who drink unsweetened tea and wear non matching socks. If they bought the sample off a polling company, it's especially more likely that it's a representative sample (especially since internet surveys, unlike random telephone calls, get to choose their samples). There are many people who are opposed to porn, but they all still watch it (go to r/NoFap). Natural. Porn makes you feel good and doesn't harm you or anybody directly, so your brain is gonna go for it.
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Post by al on Nov 25, 2019 6:54:21 GMT 10
I’m not sure we can assume pornography is a moralistic choice nor that it is universally pleasurable. Meanwhile there are also many not ordinarily sexualized things that people find arousing.
One aspect that hasn’t been brought up yet is the sometimes unethical treatment of performers. Though this is more an issue of the industry itself than the actual content, I have seen some cite it as a reason for boycott.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 9:46:51 GMT 10
I’m not sure we can assume pornography is a moralistic choice nor that it is universally pleasurable. Meanwhile there are also many not ordinarily sexualized things that people find arousing. One aspect that hasn’t been brought up yet is the sometimes unethical treatment of performers. Though this is more an issue of the industry itself than the actual content, I have seen some cite it as a reason for boycott. I think sex trafficking is the dark side of pornography. However, that is more likely to happen in countries where pornography is illegal rather than where it's legal and regulated.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 9:37:30 GMT 10
Not to sound gross, but I haven't watched porn in about a month (since I read the book on Digital Minimalism). I notice I'm starting to find people I know IRL more attractive. I guess porn does indeed create higher (if not unrealistic) standards.
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Post by smartboi on Dec 18, 2019 10:02:46 GMT 10
Not to sound gross, but I haven't watched porn in about a month (since I read the book on Digital Minimalism). I notice I'm starting to find people I know IRL more attractive. I guess porn does indeed create higher (if not unrealistic) standards. What if you know someone IRL who is a porn star? Would they be more attractive in person or in a movie?
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