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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 19, 2019 10:09:58 GMT 10
www.kerrang.com/features/12-signs-that-rock-will-dominate-music-in-2020/Kerrang published this interesting article a week ago over what it sees as twelve signs that rock is set to return to the mainstream in 2020. The website argues that 2019 "was one of rock’s biggest years to date. Huge bands reunited, underground stars rose to the forefront, and once again the community rallying behind these musical subcultures became too loud to ignore. On top of that, these self-contained and culturally-devout genres became fascinating to those outside of them, who are fascinated by the idea of people believing in something after being fed a whole lot of nothing". It's easy to dismiss these articles with a degree of skepticism, but if i'm being honest, I actually agree with some of the points they've brought up. There does seem to have been a renewed interest in rock music over the past 12-18 months. 2018 saw an increased number of guitar-driven songs appear on the charts, such as "In My Blood", "Zombie" and "Natural". Twenty One Pilots' "Jumpsuit" was the fastest-rising song on the Billboard Alternative Chart since Green Day's "Know Your Enemy" back in 2009. There has also been a recent string of biopics based on classic rock artists/bands, such as Queen, Elton John and The Beatles. What is your opinion of this article? Do you agree with some or all of the points they have made?
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Post by John Titor on Dec 19, 2019 10:42:15 GMT 10
my Pop Punk foretelling will be Justified!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 19:21:13 GMT 10
I'll believe it when I see it. Coincidentally, one of the blog posts I'm researching for is how rock is dead and never coming back, at least not to what it was. To the extent guitar music is coming back, I'm more inclined to believe it's going to be back in lo fi form, namely by way of bedroom pop like Snail Mail and Soccer Mommy.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 19, 2019 19:38:36 GMT 10
I'll believe it when I see it. Coincidentally, one of the blog posts I'm researching for is how rock is dead and never coming back, at least not to what it was. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on why it died in the mainstream. This is something that has always really interested me, not just because rock happens to be my favourite genre, but also simply because of how it went from being everywhere when I was a kid, to it seemingly becoming a footnote in history by the time I started high school in 2012.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 19:40:22 GMT 10
I'll believe it when I see it. Coincidentally, one of the blog posts I'm researching for is how rock is dead and never coming back, at least not to what it was. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on why it died in the mainstream. This is something that has always really interested me, not just because rock happens to be my favourite genre, but also because of how it went from being everywhere when I was a kid to it seemingly becoming a footnote in history by the time I started high school in 2012. Do you mean why it died in terms of what I think killed it?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 19, 2019 19:41:13 GMT 10
I would be interested to hear your thoughts on why it died in the mainstream. This is something that has always really interested me, not just because rock happens to be my favourite genre, but also because of how it went from being everywhere when I was a kid to it seemingly becoming a footnote in history by the time I started high school in 2012. Do you mean why it died in terms of what I think killed it? Yeah, pretty much. Just what you think led to it losing relevance in the mainstream and falling out of favour with people.
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Post by Qwerty on Dec 19, 2019 19:53:25 GMT 10
There has been a little bit of interest this year. There has been the My Chemical Romance reunion (which received considerable hype when announced), the announcement of a Green Day/Weezer/Fall Out Boy tour and the recent announcement of John Frusciante rejoining the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Despite this (and the other points made in the article), I can't see rock 'dominating' music in 2020. I would love for it happen though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 9:35:02 GMT 10
I think the current culture is primed for the return of rock and decline of EDM. There just needs to be a catalyst to make it happen. If one or more rock bands can blow up and take over the charts, I think a total shift would quickly follow. It has to be something more substantial though than Panic at the Disco or the return of any other bands from the 90s/00s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 12:16:06 GMT 10
Do you mean why it died in terms of what I think killed it? Yeah, pretty much. Just what you think led to it losing relevance in the mainstream and falling out of favour with people. I'll put this on my to-do list. There are several points I would want to cover and I'd want to do proper research for you rather than just giving a throwaway answer. I'm going on vacation this week so it'll be the perfect opportunity for me to gather my thoughts.
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Post by al on Dec 20, 2019 12:21:31 GMT 10
The writer shot themselves in the foot here by using as bold of a word as “dominate”. I think we all know damn well it won’t. But.....revitalize? Have a resurgence? Yes there are many signs of that. Never mind my favorite little phrase “So out, it’s in.” I won’t hold my breathe but we’ll see.
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Post by rainbow on Dec 20, 2019 12:25:48 GMT 10
I feel like some of y'all are being a little too optimistic. If we're being realistic, rock isn't going to get more popular anytime soon.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 20, 2019 12:45:52 GMT 10
Yeah, pretty much. Just what you think led to it losing relevance in the mainstream and falling out of favour with people. I'll put this on my to-do list. There are several points I would want to cover and I'd want to do proper research for you rather than just giving a throwaway answer. I'm going on vacation this week so it'll be the perfect opportunity for me to gather my thoughts. Okay no worries, take as much time as you need.  I'm actually thinking about creating a separate topic based on this (since we surprisingly don't already have one), because I have a few theories myself as to why it declined and it could make for a pretty interesting discussion if multiple people had their say on it. I'm looking forward to seeing your response to it! Despite this (and the other points made in the article), I can't see rock 'dominating' music in 2020. The writer shot themselves in the foot here by using as bold of a word as “dominate”. I think we all know damn well it won’t. But.....revitalize? Have a resurgence? Yes there are many signs of that. Never mind my favorite little phrase “So out, it’s in.” I won’t hold my breathe but we’ll see. Yep, I completely agree that "dominate" is the wrong choice of word. We're less than two weeks away from the start of the 2020s. If there was even a small possibility of rock 'dominating' the music scene of 2020, we would already be seeing rock artists/bands occupying the chart positions on the bottom-half of the charts. That hasn't been the case at all.
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Post by al on Dec 20, 2019 13:17:42 GMT 10
Yep, I completely agree that "dominate" is the wrong choice of word. We're less than two weeks away from the start of the 2020s. If there was even a small possibility of rock 'dominating' the music scene of 2020, we would already be seeing rock artists/bands occupying the chart positions on the bottom-half of the charts. That hasn't been the case at all. Clickbait seriously needs to die in the 20’s but I have about the same expectation for that as I do the domination of (new) rock music. Lmao. But yeah at this point, we are already experiencing what the first quarter of 2020, if not deeper, will be like. I’m getting increasingly confident that we’ve already entered the early 20’s era.
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Post by Telso on Dec 29, 2019 8:39:28 GMT 10
I've legit been reading this kind of stuff since the early 2010s. I really think it's wistful thinking at this point for a full-on mainstream comeback. But they are still so many great rock projects coming out that are so easily accessible that it doesn't really matter imo. Why clamoring for overexposure anyway? There are so many "classic rock" bands I can't stand now because they are constantly brought into my face by music conversations all the time.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 29, 2019 8:57:28 GMT 10
I've legit been reading this kind of stuff since the early 2010s. I really think it's wistful thinking at this point for a full-on mainstream comeback. But they are still so many great rock projects coming out that are so easily accessible that it doesn't really matter imo. Why clamoring for overexposure anyway? There are so many "classic rock" bands I can't stand now because they are constantly brought into my face by music conversations all the time. I see your point, though I do think rock is in a healthier state than it was just a few years ago. In 2016, guitar-driven music was practically non-existent in the mainstream. Part of the reason as to why I wish to see it return to the mainstream in some capacity is so that it reignites a level of innovation in the genre. I get that it doesn't need to be successful for great songs to be released; some of my favourite songs from this year have been ones that were released by "unknowns". However, these songs are in the form of alt-rock or pop-punk, genres that were popular with the masses over a decade ago. If rock made a comeback to the Top-40 in some way, it will get more and more people talking about the genre once again and maybe then we will see a new aesthetic/sound emerge that will drive rock music forward. It doesn't need to be the most popular genre in the Top-40.
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I'm actually thinking about creating a separate topic based on this (since we surprisingly don't already have one), because I have a few theories myself as to why it declined and it could make for a pretty interesting discussion if multiple people had their say on it. I'm looking forward to seeing your response to it!
