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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 11:46:19 GMT 10
^ I still can't really take to her as an artist, but I do agree that its better than the vast majority of the songs on the charts at the moment. It sounds really mature for her actually, will be interesting to see what direction she goes in with her next album. I was just thinking about this earlier, and I know I must sound like a broken record constantly talking about rock all the time, but we're into August now and there has yet to be a single rock song released this year that has made it onto the Top-40 charts, anywhere. If this continues, 2020 will be the first year since 1951 that a new rock release has not made it onto the mainstream Top-40 charts whatsoever. 2019 at least had a small quantity of pop-rock songs such as 5 Seconds of Summer's "Teeth", Shawn Mendes' "If I Can't Have You", Post Malone's "Circles" and the Jonas Brothers' "Sucker". "Circles" has carried over into this year, but it was released in 2019 and it was already on the charts for several months before the start of 2020. It still amazes me that this is the case. I can remember being an 8 year old kid thirteen years ago and some of the most popular songs of that year were hits like "This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race", "What I've Done" "Girlfriend", "Hey There Delilah" etc. Bands such as Nickelback, Linkin Park and Fall Out Boy were legitimately some of the biggest names in music at the time. Now its 2020 and its as if rock never even existed. They're two completely different worlds. In 2007, I went and saw Linkin Park perform live at the Sydney Entertainment Centre and I received a $400 drum kit for Christmas. Now, I would probably be called a 'boomer' just for even regularly listening to rock. I think it's safe to say rock has gone the way of jazz. It's now what grown-ups with kids listen to. Not that I mind.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 5, 2020 18:08:40 GMT 10
That's why I hate this year so much more vehemently than last year. In 2019, it really felt like we were heading towards charts with more diversity and I really embraced the positive evolution, only for this year to undo that completely. That seems to have been the story of the Late 2010s; the inability for music to diversify despite its best efforts to try and do so. Even in early 2018, you had electro-funk ("Filthy"), country-pop ("Meant To Be"), pop-rock ("In My Blood", "Zombie") and EDM on the charts, before all of those styles ultimately gave way to an over-saturation of mumble-rap as the year went on. Its probably one of the biggest disadvantages to streaming and the way in which the Top-40 charts are now calculated. Sure, you could argue that the charts are accurate in that they show what the most popular new songs are on Spotify or YouTube at that given time, but there's so much more going on in music that isn't otherwise represented due to the flawed formula that the charts use. I mean, "Look Into My Eyes" by Brando was the second-most played song on the radio last week here in Australia, but it hasn't even debuted within the ARIA Top-50. I think it's safe to say rock has gone the way of jazz. It's now what grown-ups with kids listen to. Not that I mind. I just don't understand how the attitudes towards it changed as quickly as they did, its as if someone flicked a switch around the start of the 2010s. I mean, thirteen years ago really isn't all that long ago in the grand scheme of things. We're not talking about a genre of music that has been culturally irrelevant for over a generation. Heck, people my age grew up with it as kids and we're only in our early 20s. It just baffles me really.
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Post by Telso on Aug 6, 2020 23:53:52 GMT 10
I just don't understand how the attitudes towards it changed as quickly as they did, its as if someone flicked a switch around the start of the 2010s. I mean, thirteen years ago really isn't all that long ago in the grand scheme of things. 13 years is nothing in history by itself, but for pop culture I would argue that it is indeed a major period of time where a lot can happen in between. Especially when you know for example that we went from the basic rock & roll and rockabilly and lush sound of crooners in 1959 to sleazy hard rock, conscious folk pop and groovy funk in 1972, or the new jack swing, synthpop and glam metal of 1988 to the bling rap, urban pop and nu metal of 2001, there's no real surprise that 2020 can be so different to 2007.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 7, 2020 0:13:24 GMT 10
I just don't understand how the attitudes towards it changed as quickly as they did, its as if someone flicked a switch around the start of the 2010s. I mean, thirteen years ago really isn't all that long ago in the grand scheme of things. 13 years is nothing in history by itself, but for pop culture I would argue that it is indeed a major period of time where a lot can happen in between. Especially when you know for example that we went from the basic rock & roll and rockabilly and lush sound of crooners in 1959 to sleazy hard rock, conscious folk pop and groovy funk in 1972, or the new jack swing, synthpop and glam metal of 1988 to the bling rap, urban pop and nu metal of 2001, there's no real surprise that 2020 can be so different to 2007. The hard-rock that was on the charts in 1972 was a natural progression from the rock 'n roll that was popular during the late '50s though. Two completely different sub-genres, sure, but they all fall under the one "rock" umbrella. The change that occurred between 2007 to 2020 is really only comparable with the transition between the crooners of the 1940s and the dawn of rock 'n roll in the mid 1950s. The subculture that defined the youth of the world for the best part of half a century went from still dominating the mainstream Top-40 charts in 2007, to it now not having a single presence on the charts whatsoever in 2020. It isn't just a case of one sub-genre being phased out in favour of another; we're talking about a style of music that has quite literally 'died off' altogether within just 13 years. The level of change that occurred between 2007 to 2020 is unusual and extremely transitional for just a 13-year period.
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Post by prodanny288 on Aug 8, 2020 6:40:34 GMT 10
It doesn't matter what the 2020s are gonna look like. My life will be worthless no matter what.
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Post by Telso on Aug 8, 2020 16:14:26 GMT 10
Don't like it. Predicably, Meghan Thee Stallion's parts are the only ones that properly salvage this. But the beat is really boring and the whole song falls flat as a result.
Also what's up with Kylie Jenner's random appearance in the music video just to generate some buzz?
What a disappointing collab.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 9, 2020 12:07:49 GMT 10
I really dig the early 2000s R&B flavored trap this song has.
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Post by Telso on Aug 14, 2020 22:13:44 GMT 10
My god, I know a lot of people hate this guy for having such phoned in and unbearably strained vocal delivery as well as his pastry productions. But while I didn't mind "Someone You Loved" for the most part which had quite nice verses but a terrible chorus and bridge, I definitely take issue with this one. He clearly can't keep a decent pitch in his belting, it's all unpleasantly gravely in complete disservice of whatever sentiment he's trying to pass. And his drunk karaoke singing also completely overshadows the generic stock production which is so bland anyway and doesn't illustrate the melodrama of the songs very well. He truly needs to adopt more restrain into his music, even if he's still far from the worst Ed Sheeran imitator (that title easily goes to James Arthur). Well, it's another candidate for my 2020 craplist: 1. 6ix9ine - GOOBA 2. Justin Bieber - Yummy 3. Diplo ft. Thomas Wesley, Julia Michaels, Morgan Wallen - Heartless 4. Lil Baby & 42 Dugg - We Paid 5. Trevor Daniel - Falling 6. Tones and I - Ur So F**cking Cool 7. Drake - Toosie Slide 8. Selena Gomez - Boyfriend 9. Sam Smith & Demi Lovato - I'm Ready 10. Maroon 5 - Nobody's Love StaySolidRocky - Party Girl 5 Seconds of Summer - Old Me Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go Juice WRLD ft. Marshmello - Come & Go Kygo & Tina Turner - What's Love Got to Do With It
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Post by mc98 on Aug 20, 2020 5:09:08 GMT 10
This has been blowing up in Spotify and Apple Music. I don't know what to call this type of music. Trap/pop rock? I think it's catchy.
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Post by Telso on Aug 20, 2020 6:25:46 GMT 10
This has been blowing up in Spotify and Apple Music. I don't know what to call this type of music. Trap/pop rock? I think it's catchy. It's pretty much emo rap (has the whole template of sampling guitar riffs), just more upbeat. Cool song btw Really not a fan of all this retro pop stuff coming out this year, but this one is quite well-done. I do love myself some Blondie, and this Deborah Harry impersonation fits Miley's husky voice very well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 11:50:38 GMT 10
Who are these Saint Motel guys?
YouTube has been trying REALLY hard to market them to me.
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Post by Telso on Aug 24, 2020 8:30:58 GMT 10
I'm geniunely perplexed at how Drake manages to basically release the same song over and over and make a hit out of it each time. Even the music video of this is one giant snoozefest of a Nike commercial. He's so boring and insufferable
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Post by mc98 on Aug 24, 2020 9:24:12 GMT 10
I'm geniunely perplexed at how Drake manages to basically release the same song over and over and make a hit out of it each time. Even the music video of this is one giant snoozefest of a Nike commercial. He's so boring and insufferable Everything about this just feels cynical.
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Post by Telso on Aug 25, 2020 20:32:22 GMT 10
BTS' new song is apparently breaking the internet and streaming numbers since this is their first fully English song. Usually I often very much like the "super commercial" side of pop music as I even geniunely loved their collab with Halsey last year, but this goes way too far in that direction. It's so polished and tailored for the mass market that this ends up being really bland and it leaves me uncomfortable as a result. What an unmemorable song too
With all the middling mediocrity topping up the charts lately, it's nice to hear a refreshing bedroom pop tune. The indiesphere still offers plenty of material to gush about, and this meet point of reverb-laden alt. stuff with melodic pop chorus is certainly nice.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 29, 2020 19:49:02 GMT 10
Machine Gun Kelly is bringing back 2005 by continuing to come out with new pop-punk tracks. It's okay, not particularly great, but not outright bad either. I prefer this over "My Bloody Valentine" and especially that awful cover of "Misery Business" in any case.
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