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Post by mc98 on Jan 20, 2020 9:04:22 GMT 10
Where would you put 2009 in? 2009 was a year where early 2010s influence started to kick in. I would say 2009 leans more late 2010s but the early 2010s trends were kicking in very fast.
What makes 2009 more late 2000s:
MySpace was still popular.
Emo hasn't died out completely
Pop rock, R&B, hip hop, and post-grunge were still on the charts.
Flip phones were still being used
What makes 2009 more early 2010s:
Facebook started to overtake MySpace popularity.
Electropop was exploding with popularity, especially by the 4th quarter.
Obama was president for the majority of 2009.
Drake and Justin Bieber debuted this year.
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Post by rainbow on Jan 20, 2020 10:40:24 GMT 10
It has more in common with the early 2010's IMO. Obama became president and new artists like Drake were getting popular. Myspace was also dying and Facebook was getting more popular.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 20, 2020 11:04:28 GMT 10
It has more in common with the early 2010's IMO. Obama became president and new artists like Drake were getting popular. Myspace was also dying and Facebook was getting more popular. 2009's vibe was off and weird, it def felt like 2010 beta year Gotta vote with early 2010s
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Post by Telso on Jan 20, 2020 11:22:56 GMT 10
Exploring chart songs from this year was both a chore and a realization that it contained loads of aged rock, R&B, macho-hip hop, pop rock ballads and dance-pop awkwardly transitioning into electropop dated to the 2000s in many ways, all of which would have vanished from the charts by 2011.
Definitely more late 2000s in that regard.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 20, 2020 11:53:14 GMT 10
Exploring chart songs from this year was both a chore and a realization that it contained loads of aged rock, R&B, macho-hip hop, pop rock ballads and dance-pop awkwardly transitioning into electropop dated to the 2000s in many ways, all of which would have vanished from the charts by 2011. Definitely more late 2000s in that regard. How many songs in the top 50 of 2009 sound more 2000s than 2010s?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 13:29:14 GMT 10
There is no such thing as the 2010s if it doesn't include 2009. It's not a prologue, it's canon!
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Post by John Titor on Jan 20, 2020 14:04:46 GMT 10
There is no such thing as the 2010s if it doesn't include 2009. It's not a prologue, it's canon! yeah its def canon 2009 has that nuclear bomb just went off in the Land of The 2000s and laying waste the early 2010s lol
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Post by al on Jan 21, 2020 5:08:48 GMT 10
2009 might be the oddest cultural year I can recall. So much going on, so hard to place.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 21, 2020 5:27:30 GMT 10
2009 might be the oddest cultural year I can recall. So much going on, so hard to place. when I think of 2009 a few things come to mind - Walking in a mall full of closed down Circuit City's and KB Toys, Sharper Images - The push for 3D tV - Micheal Jackson dying - Everyone doing their own Electropop song - VH1 almost unbearable with their programming I get a run down dystopian vibe when I think of this year, just malls that are closing run down,empty store fronts
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Post by al on Jan 21, 2020 5:50:42 GMT 10
when I think of 2009 a few things come to mind - Walking in a mall full of closed down Circuit City's and KB Toys, Sharper Images - The push for 3D tV - Micheal Jackson dying - Everyone doing their own Electropop song - VH1 almost unbearable with their programming I get a run down dystopian vibe when I think of this year, just malls that are closing run down,empty store fronts I think of 3d movies, Wii, Obama, touch screens, Facebook. Both music and fashion were kind of bizarre. You had your 00’s mainstays like the Black Eyed Peas, some lingering emo, Lady Gaga, indie bands and of course electropop injecting into everything. Thanks to the recession, many brand names were becoming rapidly uncool. Skinny jeans coexisted with bootcut ones, people still had their hair covering their face. Hipster and emo are rarely considered the same era, but 2009 can prove it. Weird times.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 21, 2020 6:12:02 GMT 10
Boom Boom Pow - Sort of in-between. Leaning late 2000s.
Poker Face - In-between, the Electropop sound was still developing at the time.
Just Dance - Same as above.
I Gotta Feeling - Leaning early 2010s
Love Story - 2000s pop country
Right Round - Sort of early 2010s
I'm Yours - Kinda in-between. Would see this getting popular in the 2010s.
Single Ladies - This is straight up late 2000s urban pop
Heartless - Probably 2000s
Gives You Hell - Not only late 2000s but can also be a hit in the early 2000s. It's almost similar to Teenage Dirtbag.
You Belong With Me - Same thing with Love Story
Dead and Gone - Very 2000s.
You Found Me - Doesn't sound different from their 2005/2006 stuff, so 2000s.
Use Somebody - Leaning 2000s with modern rock elements.
Knock You Down - Standard late 2000s R&B.
Blame It - Very late 2000s urban.
I Know You Want Me - Late 2000s urban club.
Live Your Life - 2000s rap song.
Kiss Me Thru The Phone - Late 2000s with snap elements.
Down - Leans more early 2010s but sounds primitive.
The Climb - Extremely 2000s pop rock ballad.
Best I Ever Had - In-between.
My Life Would Suck Without You - Her standard pop rock sound with electropop elements, late 2000s.
Halo - Late 2000s R&B ballad in the same vein as Bleeding Love and No One.
Hot N Cold - Pop rock with electropop elements, late 2000s.
Second Chance - Extremely 2000s post-grunge.
Circus - Very 2000s with Timbaland-esque production
Day N Nite - In-between.
Party In The USA - Leaning early 2010s.
Don't Trust Me -Late 2000s pop rock.
Run This Town - Probably 2000s.
Let It Rock - Very late 2000s with crunk synths.
Fire Burning - Leaning early 2010s but the electropop sound of 2009 is still developing.
Whatcha Say - Leaning early 2010s.
LoveGame - Very late 2000s.
Waking Up In Vegas - Very 2000s pop rock
Birthday Sex - Standard 2000s R&B slow jam.
Sober - Another 2000s pop rock ballad.
Womanizer - This sounds like it would be in her 2007 Blackout album, late 2000s for sure.
Whatever You Like - Definitely 2000s with heavy snap elements.
As you can see, the majority of the songs in the top 40 year end are more 2000s sounding. A lot of them were released or recorded in 2008 so that explains why most of these songs sound 2000s. The 2010 year end has more 2010s sounding songs.
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Post by al on Jan 21, 2020 6:30:44 GMT 10
I’m gonna add video chatting/skype/oovoo in as a big 09 thing. Yes webcams had existed for a while, but it was a teen trend to post screenshots and goofy/lip sync videos on Facebook.
Was MGMT ever prominent for you guys? Some of my friends were obsessed with them at the time (probably 08-09 schoolyear). Then I just found them strange, but now I see it as more 10’s.
Also for being from 08/peaking in 09, I think Step Brothers aesthetic-wise helped set the tone for the early 10’s.
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Post by Cassie on Jan 21, 2020 6:42:34 GMT 10
2009 is slightly more early 2010s to me - Toon Disney and Jetix were removed that year, and Nick changed it's logo too.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Jan 21, 2020 14:12:38 GMT 10
Early 2010s, although it doesnt feel very 2010s either, if you know what I mean...
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jun 16, 2020 16:56:43 GMT 10
I was thinking about this just last night as I was listening to "Let It Rock". When people imply that 2009 had stronger ties with the Early 2010s than it did with the rest of the 2000s, they're either overstating the influence of the few noteworthy exceptions (i.e Facebook's popularity, songs such as "Tik Tok", "Bad Romance" etc.) or they are only talking about September/October onwards. The first half of 2009 especially was still very much caught in the '00s zeitgeist, given the fact that emo, r&b and post-grunge were all culturally relevant, Windows 7 hadn't yet been released, the world was still caught up in the hype of Barrack Obama's inauguration and flip phones were still commonplace. Most of 2009 was nothing like the Early 2010s.
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