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Post by karlpalaka on Feb 14, 2020 2:57:52 GMT 10
When you compare the 2005 to 2020, not much of a difference despite 15 years, but 2005 to 1990 has a huge difference despite only 16 years. 2005 was the year, in the US at least and some developed countries, digital technology became mainstream and of everyday use, and that analog technology died out. 1990 had web, cell phones, and laptops exist, but that stuff wasnt mainstream for another 13 years. The 90s lifestyle started to die out in 2003 and by 2006, it was completely dead, just like how people say 1990 is still 80s. My guess is that between the 1960s and 1980s, a lot happened. Like PC desktops and laptops were being developed along with cell phones and the internet. Also, the music went from smooth jazz to disco to techno and pop. Video game consoles started to became a thing in between these decades, and in the US, African Americans finally received equal rights during this time. In 1960, segregation was still high, but by the 1980s, they were already able to vote. The internet was first invented in 1969, but only around the early 80s, did random people start using it at home, and that was with usenet, a mock version of the web, which was invented in the late 80s.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 14, 2020 7:53:32 GMT 10
When you compare the 2005 to 2020, not much of a difference despite 15 years, but 2005 to 1990 has a huge difference despite only 16 years. Actually, 2005 and 2020 are drastically different. I may even argue that in many ways, 2005 was actually more like 1990 than 2020 (albeit not by much). 2005 was a world before smartphones, before tablets, before digital streaming services, before LCD TVs, before social media, and before many other digital luxurious we take for granted in 2020 were either standardized or in some cases even created. Cell phones back then were far more simplistic, people were still listening to music on CDs and watching movies on DVDs (or in some cases even VHS) as their primary method (even Blu Ray didn't exist yet), CRT TVs were still the standard television set within households, local multiplayer was still more prominent among gamers than online multiplayer, social media existed but was only an alternative platform used by teenagers instead of a major platform used by the general public (plus there was no Twitter), and the world overall was far less digitalized. Also, political correctness was practically unheard of in 2005, unlike today. That's a huge difference if you ask me.
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Post by rainbow on Feb 14, 2020 8:03:49 GMT 10
When you compare the 2005 to 2020, not much of a difference despite 15 years, but 2005 to 1990 has a huge difference despite only 16 years. Actually, 2005 and 2020 are drastically different. I may even argue that in many ways, 2005 was actually more like 1990 than 2020 (albeit not by much). 2005 was a world before smartphones, before tablets, before digital streaming services, before LCD TVs, before social media, and before many other digital luxurious we take for granted in 2020 were either standardized or in some cases even created. Cell phones back then were far more simplistic, people were still listening to music on CDs and watching movies on DVDs (or in some cases even VHS) as their primary method (even Blu Ray didn't exist yet), CRT TVs were still the standard television set within households, local multiplayer was still more prominent among gamers than online multiplayer, social media existed but was only an alternative platform used by teenagers instead of a major platform used by the general public (plus there was no Twitter), and the world overall was far less digitalized. Also, political correctness was practically unheard of in 2005, unlike today. That's a huge difference if you ask me. I'm not sure if I'd go as far to say it had more in common with 1990 than 2020. The differences are obviously drastic, but just the mere fact that the Internet and social media (Myspace) was already a thing by 2005, not to mention the release of YouTube, is enough to make it more similar to 2020. Also, the fashion differences between 1990 and 2005 are extremely drastic. 1990 was basically like an extension of the 80's. 2005 and 2020 are very different fashion wise, but it's not as big.
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Post by longaotian on Feb 14, 2020 8:31:30 GMT 10
Actually, 2005 and 2020 are drastically different. I may even argue that in many ways, 2005 was actually more like 1990 than 2020 (albeit not by much). 2005 was a world before smartphones, before tablets, before digital streaming services, before LCD TVs, before social media, and before many other digital luxurious we take for granted in 2020 were either standardized or in some cases even created. Cell phones back then were far more simplistic, people were still listening to music on CDs and watching movies on DVDs (or in some cases even VHS) as their primary method (even Blu Ray didn't exist yet), CRT TVs were still the standard television set within households, local multiplayer was still more prominent among gamers than online multiplayer, social media existed but was only an alternative platform used by teenagers instead of a major platform used by the general public (plus there was no Twitter), and the world overall was far less digitalized. Also, political correctness was practically unheard of in 2005, unlike today. That's a huge difference if you ask me. I'm not sure if I'd go as far to say it had more in common with 1990 than 2020. The differences are obviously drastic, but just the mere fact that the Internet and social media (Myspace) was already a thing by 2005, not to mention the release of YouTube, is enough to make it more similar to 2020. Also, the fashion differences between 1990 and 2005 are extremely drastic. 1990 was basically like an extension of the 80's. 2005 and 2020 are very different fashion wise, but it's not as big. Myspace was barely a thing in 2005, it was only semi-popular among teenagers. Despite YouTube being released in 2005, it wouldn't blow up until a couple of years later. I would consider 2005 to be one of the last, if not the last year without social media presence and imo, daily life would be more similar to 1990 than 2020.
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Post by karlpalaka on Feb 14, 2020 8:55:16 GMT 10
Actually, 2005 and 2020 are drastically different. I may even argue that in many ways, 2005 was actually more like 1990 than 2020 (albeit not by much). 2005 was a world before smartphones, before tablets, before digital streaming services, before LCD TVs, before social media, and before many other digital luxurious we take for granted in 2020 were either standardized or in some cases even created. Cell phones back then were far more simplistic, people were still listening to music on CDs and watching movies on DVDs (or in some cases even VHS) as their primary method (even Blu Ray didn't exist yet), CRT TVs were still the standard television set within households, local multiplayer was still more prominent among gamers than online multiplayer, social media existed but was only an alternative platform used by teenagers instead of a major platform used by the general public (plus there was no Twitter), and the world overall was far less digitalized. Also, political correctness was practically unheard of in 2005, unlike today. That's a huge difference if you ask me. I'm not sure if I'd go as far to say it had more in common with 1990 than 2020. The differences are obviously drastic, but just the mere fact that the Internet and social media (Myspace) was already a thing by 2005, not to mention the release of YouTube, is enough to make it more similar to 2020. Also, the fashion differences between 1990 and 2005 are extremely drastic. 1990 was basically like an extension of the 80's. 2005 and 2020 are very different fashion wise, but it's not as big. The internet was a thing in 1990. In 2008, only 11% of people in the US had social media, and back in 2008, it was just Facebook, Twitter, and MySpace. In 2005, it was just MySpace for people in general. Facebook existed at the time, but that was only inside colleges. However, car traffic in 2004 was very much like the early 90s. Now, car traffic is completely different.
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Post by rainbow on Feb 14, 2020 9:26:25 GMT 10
I'm not sure if I'd go as far to say it had more in common with 1990 than 2020. The differences are obviously drastic, but just the mere fact that the Internet and social media (Myspace) was already a thing by 2005, not to mention the release of YouTube, is enough to make it more similar to 2020. Also, the fashion differences between 1990 and 2005 are extremely drastic. 1990 was basically like an extension of the 80's. 2005 and 2020 are very different fashion wise, but it's not as big. Myspace was barely a thing in 2005, it was only semi-popular among teenagers. Despite YouTube being released in 2005, it wouldn't blow up until a couple of years later. I would consider 2005 to be one of the last, if not the last year without social media presence and imo, daily life would be more similar to 1990 than 2020. Myspace was just beginning to get popular in 2005 though. It’s a core 2000’s thing. The 2000’s were a pretty transformative time for technology, so in all honesty 2005 isn’t really more like either year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 11:27:09 GMT 10
When you compare the 2005 to 2020, not much of a difference despite 15 years, but 2005 to 1990 has a huge difference despite only 16 years. Actually, 2005 and 2020 are drastically different. I may even argue that in many ways, 2005 was actually more like 1990 than 2020 (albeit not by much). 2005 was a world before smartphones, before tablets, before digital streaming services, before LCD TVs, before social media, and before many other digital luxurious we take for granted in 2020 were either standardized or in some cases even created. Cell phones back then were far more simplistic, people were still listening to music on CDs and watching movies on DVDs (or in some cases even VHS) as their primary method (even Blu Ray didn't exist yet), CRT TVs were still the standard television set within households, local multiplayer was still more prominent among gamers than online multiplayer, social media existed but was only an alternative platform used by teenagers instead of a major platform used by the general public (plus there was no Twitter), and the world overall was far less digitalized. Also, political correctness was practically unheard of in 2005, unlike today. That's a huge difference if you ask me. I would say it's right in the middle. iPods were already popular in 2005, I got mine that year. CD sales were severely down from their 1999/2000 peak. VHS was dead quite a while before 2005. Indeed, digital download (in the form of piracy) took off in a big way that year with more people getting broadband Internet in their homes. I would agree with you on social media. Politically correct was coined in the 1970s and exploded in usage in 1990; and Bill Maher launched his hit talk show Politically Incorrect in 1993, so that's one way in which they're all similar.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 16, 2020 18:53:51 GMT 10
2020 is a completely different world to 2005, it's like comparing apples and oranges. We're living in a time now where all forms of physical media have largely been made obsolete and change in society can be brought about by discussions on social networking sites, such as the #MeToo movement. The phasing out of physical media is one of the biggest differences between the two, IMO. Video rental stores have already become a footnote in history, now even book stores are slowly in the process of being phased out. I heard a report on the news just the other day about how some new schools are now being built without libraries.
All things considered, I would definitely be inclined to say that the world of 2005 is more like the year 1990, though not by a huge margin.
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Post by Telso on Feb 16, 2020 22:03:49 GMT 10
I dunno, I guess 2005 falls perfectly in the middle. Nanotechnology and medicine have made both leaps and bounds since 2005, which already was much more advanced compared to 1990. Also, the music went from smooth jazz to disco to techno and pop. Huh? Smooth jazz's peak (late 1980s-early 1990s) was well after disco's reign.
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Post by rainbow on Feb 17, 2020 0:16:05 GMT 10
I mean, you could come up with a lot of reasons why it's more like 1990 and why it's more like 2020. A lot has changed between those years and it's kinda hard to say. You could come up with a million reasons why it's more like 1990 and why it's more like 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 1:23:25 GMT 10
2020 is more like 1990. 2005 is less like either, in my opinion.
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Post by kev2000sfan on Feb 17, 2020 1:24:09 GMT 10
2005 is nothing like 1990. 2005 is more like 1999 if you really want to debate. When you compare the ladder, 2005 is literally more unique between either.
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Post by sman12 on Feb 21, 2020 7:33:52 GMT 10
I feel like 2005 is unlike both years. 2005 didn't have the smartphone and social media domination like 2020 and it also had the World Wide Web unlike 1990 (to the general public, I mean).
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 29, 2020 22:34:43 GMT 10
2005 definitely feels different from today, but 1990 was very primitive by 2005 standards. In 1990 the internet was still unknown to the general public and cellphones haven't caught on yet. I agree 2020 is leaps and bounds from 2005 since smartphones weren't a thing, and HD was barley a thing (now 4k TVs are pretty affordable). I say 2005 is right in the middle, It's old enough to feel like 15 years ago but modern enough to have some digital technological advancements. By 2005 having internet (high-speed internet at that) was very common, and cellphones were something everyone had (teens and older) just like smartphones are today (only kids and older).
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 22, 2020 7:27:27 GMT 10
While social media was still very primitive in 2005, the year as a whole was culturally closer to 2020 because the Internet itself was more than established by that point, having broken out a decade earlier. The Internet changed society to an absolutely astronomical degree that very few other cultural revolutions ever have.
The only major way in which 2005 is closer to 1990 than now is that physical media still dominated the entertainment world. Cell phones were still too primitive to be full-fledged multimedia machines like they are now. Meanwhile, Blockbuster was selling DVD's like hotcakes, PS2, XBOX, and GameCube kept classic console gaming going strong (online gaming was only just really starting), and the handheld market was all about Nintendo DS (which saw the breakout Nintendogs and Mario Kart DS in '05), PSP, and the twilight of the Gameboy line. Unlike now, a typical house in 2005 would've had lots of stuff lying around and you wouldn't have streaming or WiFi services to congregate everything in one place. Still, being able to readily communicate and do business with people from any corner of the globe without having to rely on telephones is a pretty big friggin' deal.
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