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Post by mc98 on Feb 21, 2020 5:55:00 GMT 10
Many people think of the 1960s as the decade of hippie and assumed that many people have long hair and wear tie dyes. While they do certainly have a big presence in the late 1960s, their fashion however is not mainstream in the 1960s. They were more of a movement in the 60s rather than a fashion trend, which is more of an early 70s trend. If you look at guy's fashion at the time, it is still a continuation of the mid 60s with mop tops and other mod-inspired fashion. For the girls, they still had hair flips and mini skirts. The hippie fashion wasn't mainstream until the early 70s when guys started wearing longer hair and the girls straightened their hair and wearing flared jeans.
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Post by fusefan on Feb 21, 2020 11:25:33 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 11:37:02 GMT 10
I think it was fusefan who quoted someone else who said "the '60s are actually the '70s" 
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Post by mc98 on Feb 21, 2020 12:02:56 GMT 10
I think it was fusefan who quoted someone else who said "the '60s are actually the '70s" I believe that quote means that everyone dressed like a hippie in the early 70s. In the mid-late 60s, it seems that mod fashion is the definitive fashion trends of the 60s.
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Post by al on Mar 4, 2020 13:27:32 GMT 10
Yep and it's also worth noting that womenswear was much quicker to adapt to the change than menswear. I've seen many high school photos from 1969 where the girls do have some pretty outrageous outfits on but the boys still look quite conservative. I read something from someone in my uncle's hs class ('71 maybe?) about how he got detention for not wearing a collared shirt or cutting his hair, but after some discussion about him being in a band, he was allowed. Soon after I'm assuming all that got repealed from the dress code, because then in my dad's class of '77 yearbook, you can still see a lot of the hippie look. But yeah, much of the 1960's fashion stereotype is about as accurate as an iPhone being lumped in with the 2000's. Sure it existed but it's not capturing the zeitgeist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 21:53:27 GMT 10
There weren't even that many hippies as a movement; during the late '60s and early '70s, they only ever amounted to about 1% of the American population. Much like SJWs today, their numbers - and their influence - was overstated in order to cow people into voting against their own interests out of fear of the counterculture.
Can't speak for hippies elsewhere in the world though.
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Post by mc98 on Mar 5, 2020 10:22:49 GMT 10
Yep and it's also worth noting that womenswear was much quicker to adapt to the change than menswear. I've seen many high school photos from 1969 where the girls do have some pretty outrageous outfits on but the boys still look quite conservative. I read something from someone in my uncle's hs class ('71 maybe?) about how he got detention for not wearing a collared shirt or cutting his hair, but after some discussion about him being in a band, he was allowed. Soon after I'm assuming all that got repealed from the dress code, because then in my dad's class of '77 yearbook, you can still see a lot of the hippie look. But yeah, much of the 1960's fashion stereotype is about as accurate as an iPhone being lumped in with the 2000's. Sure it existed but it's not capturing the zeitgeist. Yeah, boys didn’t have very long hair. High school boys throughout the mid late 60s can have mob top hair/bowl cuts like the Beatles.
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Post by Telso on Mar 5, 2020 23:24:24 GMT 10
Can't speak for hippies elsewhere in the world though. Well it was a mostly US-centric movement (a backlash against the Vietnam war and other US politics) so I believe the percentage was even lower in other countries.
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Post by TheUser98 on Mar 6, 2020 1:47:38 GMT 10
Can't speak for hippies elsewhere in the world though. Well it was a mostly US-centric movement (a backlash against the Vietnam war and other US politics) so I believe the percentage was even lower in other countries. Nah I’d say it was just as popular in the UK as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 5:43:41 GMT 10
Well it was a mostly US-centric movement (a backlash against the Vietnam war and other US politics) so I believe the percentage was even lower in other countries. Nah I’d say it was just as popular in the UK as well. I would say it was bigger in Canada than the US. We got a hippie Prime Minister in 1968 while the US had to wait until 1977. Feminism, sexual revolution, secularism, post-modernism, drugs/LSD/psychedelics, free love etc. was a movement throughout the West.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 6, 2020 21:24:24 GMT 10
It has been overstated for as long as the 1960s have been in the history books. The '60s will never lose their over-exaggerated association with the hippie subculture, it's what immediately comes to mind for most people when they think of the social and cultural changes that unfolded during the decade.
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Post by al on Mar 7, 2020 11:42:33 GMT 10
Yeah, boys didn’t have very long hair. High school boys throughout the mid late 60s can have mob top hair/bowl cuts like the Beatles. The 1960’s vs the 1970’s definitions of “long hair” were totally different. I mean at the time, the Beatles were given a hard time about their hair, which seemed long and radical for 1964. Looking at it in retrospect, what I think was shocking about it was to see hair loose and “undressed” compared to what had been popular for decades. It’s also worth adding that this concept changed for women’s hairstyles as well. I can’t find it at the moment, but I have a shampoo ad from the early 70’s saved somewhere that says something along the lines of, “It’s okay to have long hair, as long as it’s clean!” People “set” their hair for so long that the natural look was hard for many to accept.
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Post by mc98 on Mar 7, 2020 11:52:53 GMT 10
Yeah, boys didn’t have very long hair. High school boys throughout the mid late 60s can have mob top hair/bowl cuts like the Beatles. The 1960’s vs the 1970’s definitions of “long hair” were totally different. I mean at the time, the Beatles were given a hard time about their hair, which seemed long and radical for 1964. Looking at it in retrospect, what I think was shocking about it was to see hair loose and “undressed” compared to what had been popular for decades. It’s also worth adding that this concept changed for women’s hairstyles as well. I can’t find it at the moment, but I have a shampoo ad from the early 70’s saved somewhere that says something along the lines of, “It’s okay to have long hair, as long as it’s clean!” People “set” their hair for so long that the natural look was hard for many to accept. Yeah, it seems that after when The Beatles introduced themselves to America in 1964, it inspired many boys throughout the country to grow their hair like them during the mid-late 60s. It depends on if their parents would let them. 
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Post by al on Mar 7, 2020 13:39:30 GMT 10
1969 high school fashion: {Spoiler}  This is from Beverly Hills HS and this girl made her dress herself. She is one of the exceptions as someone who dressed really stylishly for the time. Even in a trendy area, you can still see the boys surrounding her look classic 60's.  It's hard to find a lot of bell bottoms prior to the 70's. I have photos from the 2000's that look like this.  These kids are 70's leaning with their moustaches and loose hair. I imagine they were considered pretty trendy.  Here the mid 60's Beatles-esque look was still very much in play, with a relaxed yet conservative style and longish hair.  Despite the snow, we still had girls in stockings. Pants may not have been allowed per the dress code.  I have to assume that this was a conservative area (seems like Tennessee), since the hairstyles are very "done" and half the kids are still rocking cardigans. Nothing groovy going on here. Then fast forward to the mid 70's: {Spoiler}  No self-respecting cheerleader would have teased in 1974.  Afros were also seen more as fashion than a form of defiance by the 70's.   The long bangs hairstyle was arguably the most popular boys. Just like in the 2000's.  Realistically this is about as long as most boys grew their hair, or at least as long as their parents and/or employers allowed.  Cigarette t-shirts are totally dress code now. How people actually looked and what today's stereotype is of the 60's imo def leans more 70's.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 11:24:36 GMT 10
Damn, even high school kids dressed nice in the '60s. Where did it all go wrong
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