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Post by al on Mar 19, 2020 11:58:21 GMT 10
I’m thinking pop culture might actually go lighter and happier again. The 1930’s had Shirley Temple movies and others which weren’t that serious. Going to the movies was more of a distraction from an uncertain life, and compare to more recent years, where going to the movies is something a lot of people do for excitement because their life is boring. Even after the 08 recession, we got electropop and neon fashion. Lately we’ve had pretty ambient music, with kind of a downbeat vibe in general. It might be time to have some fun again in ways we can control.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 12:04:45 GMT 10
I’m thinking pop culture might actually go lighter and happier again. The 1930’s had Shirley Temple movies and others which weren’t that serious. Going to the movies was more of a distraction from an uncertain life, and compare to more recent years, where going to the movies is something a lot of people do for excitement because their life is boring. Even after the 08 recession, we got electropop and neon fashion. Lately we’ve had pretty ambient music, with kind of a downbeat vibe in general. It might be time to have some fun again in ways we can control. I don't know if I'd draw the comparison to the 1930s, given that the tone you're referring to is a matter of enforced morals in cinema. Check out the Hayes Code; Hollywood movies were actually far more interesting before the implementation of the Hayes Code in 1934. As much as Hayes-era Hollywood is a guilty pleasure of mine, I also lament how much it whitewashed some of the more subversive elements of early American film.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2020 12:08:37 GMT 10
I’m thinking pop culture might actually go lighter and happier again. The 1930’s had Shirley Temple movies and others which weren’t that serious. Going to the movies was more of a distraction from an uncertain life, and compare to more recent years, where going to the movies is something a lot of people do for excitement because their life is boring. Even after the 08 recession, we got electropop and neon fashion. Lately we’ve had pretty ambient music, with kind of a downbeat vibe in general. It might be time to have some fun again in ways we can control. also happened in 97 with teen pop and upbeat fashion due to the dark grunge era
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Post by al on Mar 19, 2020 12:26:03 GMT 10
I don't know if I'd draw the comparison to the 1930s, given that the tone you're referring to is a matter of enforced morals in cinema. Check out the Hayes Code; Hollywood movies were actually far more interesting before the implementation of the Hayes Code in 1934. As much as Hayes-era Hollywood is a guilty pleasure of mine, I also lament how much it whitewashed some of the more subversive elements of early American film. That doesn’t change that many site seeking psychological escapism. Of course it’s hard to draw a direct comparison to almost anything from almost a hundred years ago, but it highlights a general concept that seems to recur in human behavior. After (and even during) something that makes them feel vulnerable, people have a way of trying to distract themselves and have a good time. It’s a way of feeling comfortable, of feeling unity. Which eventually leads back to normalcy. Culture/fashion/music will cycle out this current vibe soon and “happy” and “fun” might be about the freshest thing right now. So it’s just a guess.
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Post by al on Mar 19, 2020 12:28:00 GMT 10
also happened in 97 with teen pop and upbeat fashion due to the dark grunge era I think this is what makes the 97 photos weird now. Like I can see both and my head wants to classify it either way.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Mar 19, 2020 15:40:32 GMT 10
I’m thinking pop culture might actually go lighter and happier again. The 1930’s had Shirley Temple movies and others which weren’t that serious. Going to the movies was more of a distraction from an uncertain life, and compare to more recent years, where going to the movies is something a lot of people do for excitement because their life is boring. Even after the 08 recession, we got electropop and neon fashion. Lately we’ve had pretty ambient music, with kind of a downbeat vibe in general. It might be time to have some fun again in ways we can control. also happened in 97 with teen pop and upbeat fashion due to the dark grunge era Every decade goes through a depressing era but then comes the light. However, we are still in a dark state soo I wonder when are we gonna get a year like 1997 or 2008 again...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 20:47:50 GMT 10
I don't know if I'd draw the comparison to the 1930s, given that the tone you're referring to is a matter of enforced morals in cinema. Check out the Hayes Code; Hollywood movies were actually far more interesting before the implementation of the Hayes Code in 1934. As much as Hayes-era Hollywood is a guilty pleasure of mine, I also lament how much it whitewashed some of the more subversive elements of early American film. That doesn’t change that many site seeking psychological escapism. Of course it’s hard to draw a direct comparison to almost anything from almost a hundred years ago, but it highlights a general concept that seems to recur in human behavior. After (and even during) something that makes them feel vulnerable, people have a way of trying to distract themselves and have a good time. It’s a way of feeling comfortable, of feeling unity. Which eventually leads back to normalcy. Culture/fashion/music will cycle out this current vibe soon and “happy” and “fun” might be about the freshest thing right now. So it’s just a guess. I don't mean it's not literally exactly the same, I mean the motivations behind the change were completely different. The Hays (whoops, sp) Code was not motivated by a desire to escape from the brutal realities of the Great Depression but were actually the culmination of a puritanical and racist reactionary response to the Progressive movement in America. It was driven by religious groups and Republicans, which were now officially the social conservatives we are familiar with today, and the Hays Code was intended to WASP-ify an industry that was reviled as "too Jewish" at the time. In other words, the "Shirley Temple era" you mention had nothing to do with escapism and everything to do with censorship. A much better parallel will be to the Frank Capra films and other populist and optimism-driven films of later on in the 1930s and 1940s, as we enter the WWII era. Although granted by that time, much of the optimism, though meant as an escape from the realities of war, became gradually driven by the actual state of postwar economic prosperity. Source: Took a class in college about this very subject.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 12:16:43 GMT 10
^^^ I already can't listen to the music I was listening to a couple of months ago. "Drake - Life Is Good" is a perfect example. I can't listen to that in these current times. Actually I can't listen to trap or hip-hop at all in general and definitely not EDM. I've been gravitating more towards jazz lately. I think the 2010s are our century's "Roaring 20s" and the 2020s will be the new 1930s. The 2008 recession was bad in comparison to the second half of the 20th century but it's nothing compared to what the 2020s will bring and what has already begun. Life as most of us have known it our entire lives is over. I personally believe the economy is not likely to return to 2019 levels until at least mid 2030s if not the 2040s. It's that bad. I'm coming to terms with my own personal "peak" being 2011. I don't think my life will ever be as good as it was then. I think I've missed my own chance to have a life worth living. That sucks since I remember 2020 was going to be your big break. We're still only 3 months into this decade though, I think we can recover from this thing. This recession will be caused by the pandemic rather than any market wastefulness (unlike 2008) so I hope things can get back up and running soon. Maybe 2021 will. The year of the ox typically goes well for me. The pig and rat are tough.
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Post by al on Mar 20, 2020 12:28:32 GMT 10
I don't mean it's not literally exactly the same, I mean the motivations behind the change were completely different. The Hays (whoops, sp) Code was not motivated by a desire to escape from the brutal realities of the Great Depression but were actually the culmination of a puritanical and racist reactionary response to the Progressive movement in America. It was driven by religious groups and Republicans, which were now officially the social conservatives we are familiar with today, and the Hays Code was intended to WASP-ify an industry that was reviled as "too Jewish" at the time. In other words, the "Shirley Temple era" you mention had nothing to do with escapism and everything to do with censorship. A much better parallel will be to the Frank Capra films and other populist and optimism-driven films of later on in the 1930s and 1940s, as we enter the WWII era. Although granted by that time, much of the optimism, though meant as an escape from the realities of war, became gradually driven by the actual state of postwar economic prosperity. Source: Took a class in college about this very subject. You are still missing my point. Which was really only intended to be a lighthearted prediction anyway. Media and culture in general haven’t been particularly cheery for a while, so the current situation might be enough to finally break it. I grew up listening to my grandparents talk about what they used to do for a diversion, and then myself got to see a cycle change that followed a dark event. So I’m curious to see whether it will happen this time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 15:00:30 GMT 10
I would say coronavirus has immediately flipped the switch from '10s to '20s almost instantly. I'd say this is as big if not a bigger event than 9/11. At least 9/11 didn't bring the world to a stop. 2019 was a pretty decent endcap on the decade culturally.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 21, 2020 2:33:29 GMT 10
I would say coronavirus has immediately flipped the switch from '10s to '20s almost instantly. I'd say this is as big if not a bigger event than 9/11. At least 9/11 didn't bring the world to a stop. 2019 was a pretty decent endcap on the decade culturally. I cant believe I am saying this but as someone who was in 8th grade witnessing 9/11 live, this has to be the closest thing in terms of impact. Where 9/11 was a single event that rippled in the 2000s with aftermath, this event is every day and long and drawn out, so its effects might even be worse.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 21, 2020 2:46:13 GMT 10
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Post by John Titor on Mar 21, 2020 5:11:25 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 6:03:52 GMT 10
Holy crap, that’s not good.
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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 29, 2020 9:37:15 GMT 10
I would say after February 2020, the 2010s are culturally over. Once this pandemic ends, the world would be very different, and people are going to have a different outlook on life now.
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