Y2K cultural zeitgeist timeline 1997-2001

Yes I can tell from a mile away when products made in 1999-2000 versus older ones for the most part.

I’ve already answered the same points multiple times. Refer to previous answers.

Remember the launch of all the systems for the entirety of the 90s.
A significant amount of people were still playing snes/genesis and 2d dos games in 1996-1997. In 1997-1998 it was mostly gone but some of it was hanging as described. Nobody is arguing that 2d games were on the same level as 3d games in 1997-1998.

What year is this from tell me




I don't know, but it looks Y2K to me. The photos you showed us look very Y2K...

Nope. Like I was said I was checking out stores around the time all the systems of the decade launched. I was a gamer the entire decade.

Now I’m repeating myself wayyyyy too much. This seems almost deliberate.

Repeat:

1995-1996 was the last full 2-d year.
16 bit/2d was waning but not gone in late 96 early 1997
2-d was just hanging in 1997-1998 even though it was largely gone
and dated.


Regardless of when that image came out it doesn’t not seem y2k. Could be made in 1995-97/1998, regardless of when it was made.

Nope it wasn’t. You might have been too young. I remember going to a store in October 1996 with friends and sampling the N64 and it be extremely expensively even for those who really well off and it barely had any games. Obviously not everyone owned one and many people were renting them as novelty at the time. Nor a Ps1 or Saturn just because hot titles, launched lots of sales,and it fits a timeline.

PCs ( 2d Pc games included) were big as was Snes and Genesis. From August 1996 to March 1997. But these consoles just starting to loose popularity but still there.

Mid 1997-1998 is when shift occurred but like I said there was a very small and nearly dead but existing market for 16 bit and it was not the hottest thing for sure that did not exist after. No one is arguing that 2d was not hot at this period.

It’s not about one year that it could be made. It doesn’t work like that lool. The image could be from the mid, late 90s it doesn’t distinctly look like late 98-01 aesthetic. Regardless of when it was made.

"I was in 3rd grade when Nintendo 64 Dropped, I have picture of me playing Mario 64 at toys r us on launch day....think again. I don't know what neck of the woods u were from
but everyone threw 16 bit in the bushes once 1997 came along, even Blockbuster was throwing it in the bushes. I think you should research Sony's anti 2d Policy google and you find some information about it. The reason why hardly any  2d games came out for n64 in 1996/1997 is because 2d was declared DOA. Sony did not want to have 2d games like Megaman 8 on its system. google it."

Not true, the " very start" of 1997 (Jan-Feb/early Mar) and the September-December 1996 were almost the same, 16 bit was around and actually still popular but slowly fading/dying. You could say a few months after  towards the end of spring of 1997 was when 2d was officially dated. Already knew about these policies. Thats misinformation, not everyone threw 16 bit in the bushes once 1997 came along. Most rental stores had snes games in late 1996/early 1997 and other carried them throughout early to mid 1998. Not sure which blockbuster you are referring to, at most that likely happened in mid 1997 in select places.

Again this isn't even an argument, Its like you repeating and going around the same topic.


"So just for the record I asked u about the photo and you said it is indeed not y2k.
.............however my friend....The image was posted by the Official Y2K Aesthetic Institute
( a account that posts only y2k images) 1997........."

It's just a tumblr blog though...It isn't an authority just some people or person who collects images online and labels them. The majority of items seem to be 1998-2001.
These types of tumblrs are similar to the sea punk thing of the early 2010s, just tagging a wide scope of items (mid 2000s water fonts with sonic t-shirts) with a similar theme.  

Exactly I was right it does fit a mid to late 90s aesthetic, so 1997 was right. Definitely not reflecting the style from the 1998-00/01 period. I sent you a futuristic/Y2Kish image from 1994 earlier on. Doesn't mean 1994/5 or 1997 was the Y2K era, because 1997 was closer to it or has more examples closer to 98-00, and that there aren't differences between different years and eras. Also avant garde design and cyberpunk and rave graphics has been around for a while

Here are early Y2kish things pulled from that tumblr. 

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1992





1990




The actual Y2K era is 98-00 and what seperates it from the rest is the intensity, refinement and purity of the futuristic style among other non-futuristic factors and how common and central it was everywhere you went and how Y2K branched to include much more than just that in most aspects of pop culture.


Examples


2000:










1999-2000



late 1998



1998





TVs were starting to look like this in stores, tv from late 1998:




1999



2000



1999



1999




1999



Hotels, malls, office, furnished apartments are renovating or styling their spaces closer to this look. Not just a few places with spacey themes. 










transparent objects were starting to get big later in the late 90s but they weren't as common nor paired with metallic/neo style and a wider color palette in the Y2k era. 


Dreamcast poster










Songs totally foreign to the world of 1997-1998 ( which is most Y2K music from 98-01) just a few samples. Yes many euro hits or artist that crossed over and were quite played in the US but essential to the Y2K sound but already the vast majority of Y2K songs (whether rap, popular nu-metal, bubblegum pop) already feel mostly distinct for 98-00ish.  






















1997 and early 1998 still have lots of core 90s aspects outside of this aesthetic. Also futuristic and Y2Kish elements were a tiny bit a less polished and or somehow still aesthetically a bit more connected the more experimental mid 90s phase of this style ( think of Bjork graphics, rave posters etc)

98-00 era simply didn't have this. This period did not have the core 90s culture or influences (90s holdovers aren't equal to this) and this style evolved and became central in this time which  which is why it is unique to this period. Again the most I can say is there are a few overlaps in some cases and 1997-1998 was closest the period, meaning there was more and closer examples, but not there. 


if you want to deny that go ahead. Do what you want

Check and mate

@slash I am sorry but u lost this debate lol.

2d was DOA by 1997, Sony had an anti 2-D policy (everyone google it)
2d was seen as washed up by 97. Now you just google y2k and seeing
what pops up and posting things from the mid 90s. The y2k style is firmly
in place with bubble shapes and refined by 97 as the pictures I provided.
See thru items were already being sold at the store in 97 I had see thru
 pink calculator for class. Does not matter how polished it is, 97 is when
music,fashion and design all came together to form what we call an era.
It's not even just that,other things like WWF attitude era starting in March 1997,
Daria and King of the Hill  and South Park replacing Beavis and Butthead, TRL debuting
in Fall 97 all these little things are little facets of the y2k era that had a big impact when they
debuted in 97. As far as y2k design goes these were not minor isolated incidents y2k design
was coming together with the fashion and with the music as one.



1997- 2001 is the y2k timeline.
That twiter is sourced on Time Magazine and Rolling Stone


Straight from y2k twitter themselves 1997, can't out talk yourself from that one