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Post by mc98 on Apr 29, 2020 1:33:29 GMT 10
Can I ask again? I'm really intrigued where these things listed were widespread in the 1920s. Maybe my history books were lying to me Those are broad categories and I'm not sure which devices Teslo specifically had in mind. I think what makes the 1920s feels so familiar that it is effectively the first decade where we have a lot of films and photos from. And from what I can glean from these photos is that people KNEW how to have fun. It makes the decade feel a lot more human. Compare that to the decades before the 1890s where the nostalgics of the Victorian Era brag about how conservative and morally superior it was compared to the debauchery of 1890s onwards. Electricity and car ownership was common in most urban areas. The 1920s were still quite antique in other ways, though. Refrigerators/freezers were not invented yet, heating was be coal powered, international travel would still happen on ships rather than planes (although planes were definitely around), and while many people owned cars, the roads were still dominated by pedestrians, street cars and horse carriages while cars were seen as a dangerous menace to the roads. Child labour was still common, most people dropped out of high school before they graduated and women were not allowed to go to university (not that many people did anyway). I believe most of humanity was also living under colonialism. The 1920s aren't as old as the 1910s because there are still some people out there who were children during the decade. While the 1920s look very antique nowadays, it was the decade where you see people actually having fun and look more human:
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Post by John Titor on Apr 29, 2020 3:24:30 GMT 10
^ omg
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Post by Telso on May 1, 2020 6:16:35 GMT 10
Can I ask again? I'm really intrigued where these things listed were widespread in the 1920s. In most major cities in the Western world. I can't speak about the outer-cities (which tend to stay more traditional for longer) or the rest of the world since I haven't checked into it. The 1920s were still quite antique in other ways, though. Refrigerators/freezers were not invented yet Refrigerators were invented well into the 19th century. And smaller commercial ones as home appliances were started to be sold in the 1910s actually. By the 1920s, these types of first models were selling like hot cakes: It's also when Electrolux, the Swedish giant, came into the scene with their D model fridge in the mid-1920s, a huge success:
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Post by mwalker96 on May 6, 2020 2:48:32 GMT 10
The 1950s just because of jim crow and how woman were mostly housewives then. I agree with @slowpoke somewhat that the 20s does still somewhat modern sill some of us are only 2 generations removed from it and it gave birth to feminism. The last true modern decade in my opinion is the 90s just because how the world fundamentally changed since the Internet came into play and cellphones we're just starting to become a common household item (the late 90s) that is.
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Post by slashpop on May 12, 2020 3:16:31 GMT 10
late 70s to early 80s/start of the mid 80s period still has this loose connection with current era in a very general way. Casual fashion in a number of ways , classic film and pop culture franchises that still have strong appeal ( Star Wars, Transformers etc) video game popularity peak, desktop computers getting big, home modems and early online activity on bulletin boards, punk/alternative/hip hop/electronic music, home movie formats, post modernism etc
Anytime before that seems truly old. Probably 1960s and before makes sense. I can still understand the case for the 1940s and 1950s also.
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Post by Telso on May 12, 2020 23:10:09 GMT 10
The 1920s aren't as old as the 1910s because there are still some people out there who were children during the decade. While the 1920s look very antique nowadays, it was the decade where you see people actually having fun and look more human That's true, I noticed the entertainment industry particularly took off in the 1920s. You can notice how so much modern the 1920s truly are compared to what came before with the nightlife section from the 1927 movie "Berlin: Symphony of a Metropolis": You can even see disco balls
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Post by astropoug on Mar 16, 2022 6:57:16 GMT 10
I would say the 1960s honestly. Music performed with traditional instruments, no PCs, no video games, black and white was common in TV, film, and photography, logos that had fanfares and traditional animation, vacuum tube TVs, Old Hollywood (the Hays Code was still in place for the majority of the decade), etc. Though you could make an argument for the 50s, since it was the last pre-Civil Rights Act decade, the 40s, since it was the last decade before rock music and TV was popular, or even the 30s, since it was the last pre-Cold War decade.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 16, 2022 7:00:22 GMT 10
Latest to have no connection to today is 30s. Pre WW2.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 16, 2022 7:06:13 GMT 10
Latest to have no connection to today is 30s. Pre WW2. WW2 actually did start at the end of the 30s. It was the last decade however before the Cold War, and things like atomic bombs existed, so that certainly raises a strong argument for the 30s. The fact two of the major powers were Nazi and Communist respectively, and were strongly supported by people living in Nazi and Communist countries is absolutely unthinkable by today's standards. You do of course have right-wing edgelords who support Nazism and left-wing shitheads who support communism, but both are thankfully fringe movements and don't represent mainstream society (and thank god).
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Post by Telso on Mar 16, 2022 8:15:05 GMT 10
Latest to have no connection to today is 30s. Pre WW2. Not quite. The 1930s are probably the oldest decade to regularly recieve fashion revivals since it's actually relatively modern looking compared to prior times. 1930s cinema has also aged relatively well compared to the 1920s (pre-Talkies era), and I'm sure you grew up on some 30s cartoons like Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 16, 2022 8:42:55 GMT 10
Latest to have no connection to today is 30s. Pre WW2. WW2 actually did start at the end of the 30s. It was the last decade however before the Cold War, and things like atomic bombs existed, so that certainly raises a strong argument for the 30s. The fact two of the major powers were Nazi and Communist respectively, and were strongly supported by people living in Nazi and Communist countries is absolutely unthinkable by today's standards. You do of course have right-wing edgelords who support Nazism and left-wing shitheads who support communism, but both are thankfully fringe movements and don't represent mainstream society (and thank god). WW2 is basically entirely a 40s thing. It only had 4 months in the 30s.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 16, 2022 8:43:52 GMT 10
1930s cinema has also aged relatively well compared to the 1920s (pre-Talkies era), and I'm sure you grew up on some 30s cartoons like Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry. Tom and Jerry came out in the 40s en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puss_Gets_the_Boot
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 16, 2022 8:44:27 GMT 10
Latest to have no connection to today is 30s. Pre WW2. Not quite. The 1930s are probably the oldest decade to regularly recieve fashion revivals since it's actually relatively modern looking compared to prior times. 1930s cinema has also aged relatively well compared to the 1920s (pre-Talkies era), and I'm sure you grew up on some 30s cartoons like Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry. Technically every decade has connections with now in some form. Even like the 1800s could be seen as the start of today because of the industrial revolution.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Mar 16, 2022 8:47:06 GMT 10
The 1980s/early 1990s but even then, you had some connections to today.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 16, 2022 8:47:57 GMT 10
The 1980s/early 1990s but even then, you had some connections to today. 1980s is way too late. 80s nostalgia is still strong, and we had video games and PCs back then. Even the 70s is a stretch IMO.
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