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Post by Cassie on Jun 2, 2020 10:08:47 GMT 10
The President calling on the army to shoot protestors as he holds up a Bible and lying about how the country was found on law and order (it was found on fighting government tyranny) is how I imagined the US would end. I mean it hasn't ended yet but it's how I imagined it. This all feels like a prologue to some B-tier dystopian thriller flick that gets 38% on Rotten Tomatoes, except its real life. And it's just the prologue. I doubt that this will go on for long. Definitely not as long as the coronavirus has, like by July I think the protests will mostly be over.
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Post by Telso on Jun 2, 2020 10:31:09 GMT 10
All I can say about this subject is that it's EXTREMELY saddening that in 2020 we have now a perfect representation of racism and inequality:  RIP and I really hope this infamy will kick in radical and permanent change
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Post by ItsMichael on Jun 2, 2020 15:13:36 GMT 10
I ABSOLUTELY have no faith in humanity anymore. These protests aren't even about George anymore. Instead these are riots occurring in America and it is helping nothing. Protesting and rioting are two very different things. If those four officers were charged and sentenced to life in prison then maybe the protesting would slow down.
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Post by karlpalaka on Jun 2, 2020 17:28:33 GMT 10
Cops do unfair things all the time, worse than this, and all of a sudden during a pandemic, people just decide to protest? What is this world coming to?
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Post by karlpalaka on Jun 2, 2020 17:29:35 GMT 10
I ABSOLUTELY have no faith in humanity anymore. These protests aren't even about George anymore. Instead these are riots occurring in America and it is helping nothing. Protesting and rioting are two very different things. If those four officers were charged and sentenced to life in prison then maybe the protesting would slow down. A lot of protests are to lift the lockdown. Personally, I think the lockdown should be lifted. There is no use in it if it will not help decrease the cases and deaths in addition to making more people have trouble being employed.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jun 2, 2020 18:45:43 GMT 10
This happened in Sydney earlier today. I personally think this has been taken out of context, but as a police officer, why you would choose to do that knowing that you're being recorded and after the controversy surrounding the officer responsible for George Floyd's death? There are already hundreds of people peacefully protesting in Perth and Sydney about the situation in the US and Aboriginal inequality here. I'm worried that this video is going to spark even more protests in Australia.
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Post by Telso on Jun 3, 2020 5:07:52 GMT 10
Cops do unfair things all the time, worse than this, and all of a sudden during a pandemic, people just decide to protest? What is this world coming to? I can't think of many things worse than a police officer killing a man in the most inhumane of ways for 8 straight minutes. Cops doing unfair things shouldn't be even a conceivable thing since they have an authority and are supposed to bring order and law, not the opposite. If you have to fight for a right to live, something is fundamentally wrong. This is what people are protesting against, and it's an absolute fair point to fight for, especially if a minority is targeted in this case. Pandemic or not (which we don't know how many months it will still drag on), you can perfectly protest while keeping the social distancing. Riots are their own issue, but they shouldn't take away from the main message of these protests.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 8:46:33 GMT 10
Not to mention this is so, so far from being the only protests against police brutality. Many of you have lived through them, except you probably live in safe suburban covens where this will never be a problem and you will never have heard of the protests or the violence they are protesting.
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Post by Telso on Jun 3, 2020 12:10:51 GMT 10
It's interesting to note how these protests and general awareness have spread out to other countries. In France they have been loads of protests for an undisclosed case named Adama Traoré from 2016 with a very similar scenario to George Floyd's death.
In Belgium, I just signed a petition to get rid of any statue of Leopold II, the king of Belgium who famously colonized Congo and killed off 10M Congolese in the process.
Mind-bongling that we still have celebratory representations of who's essentially a Hitler before Hitler's time.
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Post by karlpalaka on Jun 3, 2020 15:04:35 GMT 10
Cops do unfair things all the time, worse than this, and all of a sudden during a pandemic, people just decide to protest? What is this world coming to? I can't think of many things worse than a police officer killing a man in the most inhumane of ways for 8 straight minutes. Cops doing unfair things shouldn't be even a conceivable thing since they have an authority and are supposed to bring order and law, not the opposite. If you have to fight for a right to live, something is fundamentally wrong. This is what people are protesting against, and it's an absolute fair point to fight for, especially if a minority is targeted in this case. Pandemic or not (which we don't know how many months it will still drag on), you can perfectly protest while keeping the social distancing. Riots are their own issue, but they shouldn't take away from the main message of these protests. Cops beat people up for more than 8 minutes normally. They are allowed to kill people now if those people are a threat.
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Post by Telso on Jun 3, 2020 19:03:10 GMT 10
Cops beat people up for more than 8 minutes normally. I doubt they ever stretch beating for that long. And that is still less bad than having 175 pounds on your neck slowly cutting off your oxygen circulation, resulting in a slow, painful death. The main point is that unjustified police brutality under any form shall be condemned anyway. In the most extreme of cases only. It is illegal to kill for misdemeanor for example.
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Post by karlpalaka on Jun 4, 2020 13:00:23 GMT 10
Cops beat people up for more than 8 minutes normally. I doubt they ever stretch beating for that long. And that is still less bad than having 175 pounds on your neck slowly cutting off your oxygen circulation, resulting in a slow, painful death. The main point is that unjustified police brutality under any form shall be condemned anyway. In the most extreme of cases only. It is illegal to kill for misdemeanor for example. Oh no, cops can shoot people even if they are just trying to get something from their wallet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 20:29:27 GMT 10
The problem is a legal doctrine known as qualified immunity. This is a massive oversimplification, but it basically stands for police being immune from prosecution if they did what they did in the course of enforcing the law and in their best judgment they believed what they did was necessary to carry out that function. Granted, in theory, qualified immunity is supposed to end where actual violations of federal law and Constitutional rights begin, but in practice courts have literally allowed police to get away with murder for "discretionary actions performed within their official capacity."
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Post by .savage on Jun 5, 2020 16:15:44 GMT 10
Cops do unfair things all the time, worse than this, and all of a sudden during a pandemic, people just decide to protest? What is this world coming to? Lol, this has got to be the most delusional thing I have ever read on this site. If not delusional, ignorant. People don't just get up and protest overnight for no damn reason, there must be a cause. The people have had enough, black people have had enough. The killing of George Floyd is just the breaking point that has pushed people over the edge. This has been happening for years; it's just sad that it has to be at such of a high magnitude for people to start paying more attention and not completely side eyeing the situation.
I can't think of many things worse than a police officer killing a man in the most inhumane of ways for 8 straight minutes. Cops doing unfair things shouldn't be even a conceivable thing since they have an authority and are supposed to bring order and law, not the opposite. If you have to fight for a right to live, something is fundamentally wrong. This is what people are protesting against, and it's an absolute fair point to fight for, especially if a minority is targeted in this case. Pandemic or not (which we don't know how many months it will still drag on), you can perfectly protest while keeping the social distancing. Riots are their own issue, but they shouldn't take away from the main message of these protests. Cops beat people up for more than 8 minutes normally. They are allowed to kill people now if those people are a threat.If the police were doing their jobs correctly, the number of black people that were killed would be significantly lower than it is. A black man reaches into his pocket and he gets pulled up at gunpoint but if white person did it it would be no big deal.
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Post by karlpalaka on Jun 5, 2020 17:08:50 GMT 10
Cops do unfair things all the time, worse than this, and all of a sudden during a pandemic, people just decide to protest? What is this world coming to? Lol, this has got to be the most delusional thing I have ever read on this site. If not delusional, ignorant. People don't just get up and protest overnight for no damn reason, there must be a cause. The people have had enough, black people have had enough. The killing of George Floyd is just the breaking point that has pushed people over the edge. This has been happening for years; it's just sad that it has to be at such of a high magnitude for people to start paying more attention and not completely side eyeing the situation.
Cops beat people up for more than 8 minutes normally. They are allowed to kill people now if those people are a threat.If the police were doing their jobs correctly, the number of black people that were killed would be significantly lower than it is. A black man reaches into his pocket and he gets pulled up at gunpoint but if white person did it it would be no big deal. Many cops dont do their jobs correctly. There are rogue and crooked cops who actually work with the criminals. I will admit that, but again, cops are allowed to shoot people they view as a threat to a certain limit. I have to say this reminds me of the movie, The Hate You Give.
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