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Post by rainbow on Jul 24, 2020 8:49:12 GMT 10
Basically what the title says. When it comes to music, politics, technology, TV Shows, fashion, etc. Which do you think it's culturally closer to?
I'd say 2015 is definitely closer to 2012. Both 2012 and 2015 were a time when Kik and Skype were still popular, whereas both of these were basically dead by 2018. In terms of music, Emo and Soundcloud rap were big in 2018, both of which were unheard of in 2012 and 2015. Not to mention 2018 is when Gen Z culture pretty much took over. It was still fairly millennial in 2012 and 2015.
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Post by dount2005 on Jul 24, 2020 9:41:01 GMT 10
2012 by a long shot.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 24, 2020 9:47:17 GMT 10
There are aspects of 2015 that is closer to 2018 such as the polarized politics but the music of 2015 was filled with EDM and pop like in 2012 despite sounding different. Trap was a juggernaut in the music industry in 2018. The fashion had a hipster-y vibe, which 2012 also had. Obama was president in both 2012 and 2015 completely. I'm gonna go ahead and put it closer to 2012.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 24, 2020 9:53:18 GMT 10
I say neither.
It was different from 2012 where electopop was in full swing, the music was vastly different, the landscape of gaming was different where the 360/PS3 era was mostly over in 2015, it was still the current generation in 2012 (the Wii U was released in 2012, but i don't consider that as an 8th generation console), and the internet was different in 2012 where rickrolling and Nyan Cat were the biggest memes and RayWilliamJohnson and nigahiga were the most popular YouTubers and PewDiePie wasn't nearly as popular (he still was, don't get me wrong, but the difference is still humongous), plus YouTube was MUCH different, and 2018's internet culture was also different where Fortnite and cringey dances were the big things, trap was in full force as TikTok gained popularity and relevance, memes were more stale and less enjoyable, all in all I think 2015 was vastly different from both years.
But if I had to pick between the two, I would choose 2018. Pop music in 2015 and 2018 sounds pretty much the same at least to me, gaming was in a bad state in both years where content that was already in the game is locked behind DLC and microtransactions are a huge problem as opposed to 2012 where microtransactions weren't infesting the industry, YouTube was more corporate focused and less enjoyable, and while electopop was big in 2012 it was all but dead in both 2015 and 2018.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Jul 24, 2020 11:01:25 GMT 10
I say neither. It was different from 2012 where electopop was in full swing, the music was vastly different, the landscape of gaming was different where the 360/PS3 era was mostly over in 2015, it was still the current generation in 2012 (the Wii U was released in 2012, but i don't consider that as an 8th generation console), and the internet was different in 2012 where rickrolling and Nyan Cat were the biggest memes and RayWilliamJohnson and nigahiga were the most popular YouTubers and PewDiePie wasn't nearly as popular (he still was, don't get me wrong, but the difference is still humongous), plus YouTube was MUCH different, and 2018's internet culture was also different where Fortnite and cringey dances were the big things, trap was in full force as TikTok gained popularity and relevance, memes were more stale and less enjoyable, all in all I think 2015 was vastly different from both years. But if I had to pick between the two, I would choose 2018. Pop music in 2015 and 2018 sounds pretty much the same at least to me, gaming was in a bad state in both years where content that was already in the game is locked behind DLC and microtransactions are a huge problem as opposed to 2012 where microtransactions weren't infesting the industry, YouTube was more corporate focused and less enjoyable, and while electopop was big in 2012 it was all but dead in both 2015 and 2018. I was gonna say most of that 😅 That explanation is soo on point, ngl
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Post by Cassie on Jul 24, 2020 11:01:59 GMT 10
I say neither. It was different from 2012 where electopop was in full swing, the music was vastly different, the landscape of gaming was different where the 360/PS3 era was mostly over in 2015, it was still the current generation in 2012 (the Wii U was released in 2012, but i don't consider that as an 8th generation console), and the internet was different in 2012 where rickrolling and Nyan Cat were the biggest memes and RayWilliamJohnson and nigahiga were the most popular YouTubers and PewDiePie wasn't nearly as popular (he still was, don't get me wrong, but the difference is still humongous), plus YouTube was MUCH different, and 2018's internet culture was also different where Fortnite and cringey dances were the big things, trap was in full force as TikTok gained popularity and relevance, memes were more stale and less enjoyable, all in all I think 2015 was vastly different from both years. But if I had to pick between the two, I would choose 2018. Pop music in 2015 and 2018 sounds pretty much the same at least to me, gaming was in a bad state in both years where content that was already in the game is locked behind DLC and microtransactions are a huge problem as opposed to 2012 where microtransactions weren't infesting the industry, YouTube was more corporate focused and less enjoyable, and while electopop was big in 2012 it was all but dead in both 2015 and 2018. I was gonna say most of that 😅 That explanation is soo on point, ngl Wow, what a coincidence!
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Jul 24, 2020 11:05:39 GMT 10
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Post by mc98 on Jul 24, 2020 11:16:09 GMT 10
I say neither. It was different from 2012 where electopop was in full swing, the music was vastly different, the landscape of gaming was different where the 360/PS3 era was mostly over in 2015, it was still the current generation in 2012 (the Wii U was released in 2012, but i don't consider that as an 8th generation console), and the internet was different in 2012 where rickrolling and Nyan Cat were the biggest memes and RayWilliamJohnson and nigahiga were the most popular YouTubers and PewDiePie wasn't nearly as popular (he still was, don't get me wrong, but the difference is still humongous), plus YouTube was MUCH different, and 2018's internet culture was also different where Fortnite and cringey dances were the big things, trap was in full force as TikTok gained popularity and relevance, memes were more stale and less enjoyable, all in all I think 2015 was vastly different from both years. But if I had to pick between the two, I would choose 2018. Pop music in 2015 and 2018 sounds pretty much the same at least to me, gaming was in a bad state in both years where content that was already in the game is locked behind DLC and microtransactions are a huge problem as opposed to 2012 where microtransactions weren't infesting the industry, YouTube was more corporate focused and less enjoyable, and while electopop was big in 2012 it was all but dead in both 2015 and 2018. I mean both years have visible differences when it comes to pop music, same thing with 2012. The music of 2015 has a clear identity where it sounds distinct from other years. You are probably right when you say 2015 is not like 2012 nor 2018.
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Post by Khal on Jul 24, 2020 11:28:25 GMT 10
I would say 2018 because Trump ran for president in 2015 and politics in 2015 is closer to 2018 than 2012. 2015 had alt-right, sjws, blm, and trump like 2018 so theres that. Regarding music I think music changed in 2013 from electro pop to trap which dominated from 2015-2018.
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Post by Telso on Jul 27, 2020 1:52:57 GMT 10
2015 is closer to 2018 IMO, from a cultural standpoint at least. Music in 2015 was very destinct from 2012 and I remember thinking the early 2010s were already showing their age by then. While 2015's airy and moody music still isn't that dated from a 2020 perspective in comparison. Spotify and Apple Music were both the main ways of consuming music in both 2015 and 2018, while iTunes was still dominating in 2012. 2012's culture was defined by an apocalyptic excitement, nothing similar of that in 2015 and 2018. 2012 predates the Netflix binge-watching culture dominating the two other years. The Vine and TikTok eras kind of mirror eachother, and there wasn't really anything like that in 2012. The flat UI was not everywhere in 2012 unlike the other two years. 2015 and 2018 were both very polarizing politically. And I can just keep going on.
There are a few things that put 2015 closer to 2012 however, like predating the Trump and Brexit era, hipster fashion being dominating, Facebook being the main social media for the youth and the Hunger Games being the main franchise for teens.
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Post by smartboi on Nov 3, 2020 15:59:33 GMT 10
I will never understand how "Gen Z culture" began as late as 2018, when I was literally a senior in high school.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 3, 2020 16:05:01 GMT 10
I will never understand how "Gen Z culture" began as late as 2018, when I was literally a senior in high school. People have different ideas on what constitutes "Gen Z culture", someone will say one thing while another will disagree with it completely. To me, Gen Z culture began to take shape in 2017 when music.aly, mumble-rap and Tide Pod jokes all began to become popular, but that's just my perception of it.
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Post by rainbow on Nov 4, 2020 1:43:03 GMT 10
I will never understand how "Gen Z culture" began as late as 2018, when I was literally a senior in high school. It’s not that Gen Z culture “began” in 2018, it’s just that 2018 was the first year Gen Z really started developing an identity. After the Parkland Shooting, you started seeing more young people in politics, and you also had the March For Our Lives protest which was a pretty big deal. This was also around the same time the Tide Pod craze was going on and Pew started to adapt to the 1997-2012 definition of Gen Z.
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Post by mc98 on Oct 19, 2021 2:20:41 GMT 10
Neither. All of these years are unique.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Oct 19, 2021 6:36:40 GMT 10
I'd say 2012 for most of the year. In the last month or two maybe around 50/50
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