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Post by rainbow on Jul 24, 2020 23:46:04 GMT 10
I don't mean the last year you consider dated, but the last year that has little to no connections to today and is old-fashioned.
IMO the last "old school" year is 2004. It was the last full pre-YouTube year and the last year to have early 2000s culture influences. 2005 was on the transition from old school to more modern. 2006 feels like the first year to have a decent amount of connections to today despite the year still being very dated. It feels a lot more modern than 2004.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 0:13:13 GMT 10
I would say 1979. It’s the last year before hyperconsumerism, Reaganomics, computers and video games being a ubiquitous part of culture, and the last year of the “hippie” brand of left wing politics being the predominant one.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 25, 2020 0:15:41 GMT 10
Anything before 2008 feels old school to me.
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 0:25:19 GMT 10
I’d say somewhere between 2004-2011. The era of broadband PCs and Razr flip phones is starting to seem very old school.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 25, 2020 0:36:01 GMT 10
I’m sorry but 2004-2011 is not the same era. Slider phones and Blackberries dominated over flip phones in 2009 and smartphones sales started to pick up in 2010. Broadband PC’s were still relevant throughout the 2010s, it’s just people are more focused on smartphones.2009-2011 is also not old school, they are dated though. The first “dated” year would be 2016 imo.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 25, 2020 0:51:12 GMT 10
I would say 2007. It was the last year rock was at huge popularity, the last year before the recession (it began in very late 2007, but still), the last year that many cartoons like KND, Avatar, and Camp Lazlo still had new episodes, the last year before Kids WB ceased airing, and the last year before the MCU began with Iron Man. Oh, and there wasn't a pandemic. I would say it's well out of the times by 2020's standards and the difference between 2020 and 2007 is dystopian and utopian (not to say 2007 was a "utopia", say, but it was much less traumatic than 2020).
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Post by John Titor on Jul 25, 2020 1:13:57 GMT 10
I don't mean the last year you consider dated, but the last year that has little to no connections to today and is old-fashioned. IMO the last "old school" year is 2004. It was the last full pre-YouTube year and the last year to have early 2000s culture influences. 2005 was on the transition from old school to more modern. 2006 feels like the first year to have a decent amount of connections to today despite the year still being very dated. It feels a lot more modern than 2004. 2006
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jul 25, 2020 1:41:54 GMT 10
I don't mean the last year you consider dated, but the last year that has little to no connections to today and is old-fashioned. IMO the last "old school" year is 2004. It was the last full pre-YouTube year and the last year to have early 2000s culture influences. 2005 was on the transition from old school to more modern. 2006 feels like the first year to have a decent amount of connections to today despite the year still being very dated. It feels a lot more modern than 2004. I actually agree with you, 2004 and 2005 felt different (very underrated change between the two years). 2004 was still a very conservative year and Bush winning the 2004 election, proves this. In 2005, I remember there was already a lot of backlash against Bush (with Iraq growing very unpopular fast), as a matter of fact, you could already feel the early 2000s conservatism greatly rub off by 2005. Dial-Up was still very common in 2004 meanwhile, in 2005, Dial-Up was dying very fast and people were already widly adopting Wi-Fi. High Definition TVs were also really kicking off that year too (though, most still had a CRT TVs until 2009ish). The Internet was changing with the rise of Wikipedia and Myspace. Television was also different between the two years (considering how many shows ended in 2004, such as Friends). We also saw the rise of Emo and Ringtone Rap in 2005 (both were significantly less prevalant in 2004). This might be a nit-picky change but, most young guys still rocked short spiky hair in 2004, meanwhile in 2005, most had shifted towards longer hair. To answer your question, I might actaully agree with you on 2004.
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 3:31:59 GMT 10
I’m sorry but 2004-2011 is not the same era. Slider phones and Blackberries dominated over flip phones in 2009 and smartphones sales started to pick up in 2010. Broadband PC’s were still relevant throughout the 2010s, it’s just people are more focused on smartphones.2009-2011 is also not old school, they are dated though. The first “dated” year would be 2016 imo. Smartphones surpassed flip phones in sales by the end of 2011. Slide phones and Blackberries are not the same as IPhones and androids. A world of smartphones and tablets being commonplace is very new school compared to a world of flip phones and PCs being commonplace. Also, tablets surpassed PCs in sales in 2013. You also got to remember 2011 was the last year of the post-9/11 era, as Osama bin laden died and the Iraq war ended that year as well. Not to mention digital downloads surpassed CDS in sales that year. 2011 was the last year that was 2000s in any way technologically and culturally.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 25, 2020 3:50:27 GMT 10
I’m sorry but 2004-2011 is not the same era. Slider phones and Blackberries dominated over flip phones in 2009 and smartphones sales started to pick up in 2010. Broadband PC’s were still relevant throughout the 2010s, it’s just people are more focused on smartphones.2009-2011 is also not old school, they are dated though. The first “dated” year would be 2016 imo. Smartphones surpassed flip phones in sales by the end of 2011. Slide phones and Blackberries are not the same as IPhones and androids. A world of smartphones and tablets being commonplace is very new school compared to a world of flip phones and PCs being commonplace. Also, tablets surpassed PCs in sales in 2013. You also got to remember 2011 was the last year of the post-9/11 era, as Osama bin laden died and the Iraq war ended that year as well. Not to mention digital downloads surpassed CDS in sales that year as well. 2011 was the last year that was 2000s in any way technologically and culturally. You mean "feature phones". Yes, slide phones and blackberries aren't the same as smartphones but they were more popular than flip phones in 2009-2011. 2020 can be considered a post-9/11 year. Any year after 2001 is a post-9/11 year. The bolded text is where you lost me. The increased presence and sales of smartphones and tablets in 2011 makes the year un-2000s. Iraq war is probably the most 2000s thing about 2011 but that's about it, the year was hardly influenced by the 2000s. I even have a hard time calling 2010, a "2000s" year. A lot of the fashion and music of 2011 is distinctly different from 2008 and before. All the crunk rap and heavy rock songs were dead on the charts in that year. Most of the music of 2011 wouldn't sound out of place in 2013-14. Many girls abandoned the flared bottom jeans into more skinny attire. The coffee-shop hipsters started to appear in that year as well, particularly around summer-fall.
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 4:01:02 GMT 10
Smartphones surpassed flip phones in sales by the end of 2011. Slide phones and Blackberries are not the same as IPhones and androids. A world of smartphones and tablets being commonplace is very new school compared to a world of flip phones and PCs being commonplace. Also, tablets surpassed PCs in sales in 2013. You also got to remember 2011 was the last year of the post-9/11 era, as Osama bin laden died and the Iraq war ended that year as well. Not to mention digital downloads surpassed CDS in sales that year as well. 2011 was the last year that was 2000s in any way technologically and culturally. You mean "feature phones". Yes, slide phones and blackberries aren't the same as smartphones but they were more popular than flip phones in 2009-2011. 2020 can be considered a post-9/11 year. Any year after 2001 is a post-9/11 year. The bolded text is where you lost me. The higher presence and sales of smartphones and tablets in 2011 makes the year un-2000s. Iraq war is probably the most 2000s thing about 2011 but that's about it, the year was hardly influenced by the 2000s at all. A lot of the fashion and music of 2011 is distinctly different from 2008 and before. All the crunk rap and heavy rock songs were dead on the charts in that year. Many girls abandoned the flared bottom jeans into more skinny attire. This is an article from September 2011 showing how smartphones are about to surpass flip phones in sales: www.nj.com/business/2011/09/smartphones_overtake_feature_p.htmlThis is an article from January 2012 showing how Digital music downloads surpassed CDS in sales: www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/06/downloads-physical-sales-usCDs and feature phones are more 2000s than 2010s. The fashion and the music may be different, but everything else, not much. For instance, movies were not the same. The MCU wasn’t mainstream yet, and movie franchises from the 2000s were continuing making film in the 2010s such as Harry Potter. 2011 was also arguably the last year of the Great Recession, as the unemployment rate started going down that year. In terms of gaming, it still felt 2000s. The Halo franchise was still strong, MMOs were still popular, and 2010s games like Minecraft didn’t even come out until the end of the year. I would say at least 2008-2011 is it’s own cultural era. An era that’s very old school compared to a year like 2020.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 25, 2020 4:25:02 GMT 10
You mean "feature phones". Yes, slide phones and blackberries aren't the same as smartphones but they were more popular than flip phones in 2009-2011. 2020 can be considered a post-9/11 year. Any year after 2001 is a post-9/11 year. The bolded text is where you lost me. The higher presence and sales of smartphones and tablets in 2011 makes the year un-2000s. Iraq war is probably the most 2000s thing about 2011 but that's about it, the year was hardly influenced by the 2000s at all. A lot of the fashion and music of 2011 is distinctly different from 2008 and before. All the crunk rap and heavy rock songs were dead on the charts in that year. Many girls abandoned the flared bottom jeans into more skinny attire. This is an article from September 2011 showing how smartphones are about to surpass flip phones in sales: www.nj.com/business/2011/09/smartphones_overtake_feature_p.htmlThis is an article from January 2012 showing how Digital music downloads surpassed CDS in sales: www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/06/downloads-physical-sales-usCDs and feature phones are more 2000s than 2010s. The fashion and the music may be different, but everything else, not much. For instance, movies were not the same. The MCU wasn’t mainstream yet, and movie franchises from the 2000s were continuing making film in the 2010s such as Harry Potter. 2011 was also arguably the last year of the Great Recession, as the unemployment rate started going down that year. In terms of gaming, it still felt 2000s. The Halo franchise was still strong, MMOs were still popular, and 2010s games like Minecraft didn’t even come out until the end of the year. I would say at least 2008-2011 is it’s own cultural era. An era that’s very old school compared to a year like 2020. It all depends on where you live though. If you live in a upper class city neighborhoods, you'll find more smartphones and consumption of digital music sales. If you live in small towns and rural areas, there will be people stuck behind in times. You gotta remember that iPod Touch probably started app culture in late 2009/early 2010. Facebook, Tumblr, and Twitter were the top social media of 2011 while sites like MySpace was highly inactive. Minecraft was released as a beta version in 2009. The game was gaining traction in winter 2010/11. Shooter games like Call Of Duty and Battlefield were all the rage in 2011 and continued on into the 2010s. Thor and Captain America were released in 2011, which arguably started the MCU franchise. There was Iron Man in 2008 but it didn't really started the MCU franchise. While Harry Potter movies ended that year, it was still a cultural phenomenon throughout the 2010s. While things were getting better in 2012, the economy was still weak in that year from the Recession.
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 4:40:57 GMT 10
This is an article from September 2011 showing how smartphones are about to surpass flip phones in sales: www.nj.com/business/2011/09/smartphones_overtake_feature_p.htmlThis is an article from January 2012 showing how Digital music downloads surpassed CDS in sales: www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jan/06/downloads-physical-sales-usCDs and feature phones are more 2000s than 2010s. The fashion and the music may be different, but everything else, not much. For instance, movies were not the same. The MCU wasn’t mainstream yet, and movie franchises from the 2000s were continuing making film in the 2010s such as Harry Potter. 2011 was also arguably the last year of the Great Recession, as the unemployment rate started going down that year. In terms of gaming, it still felt 2000s. The Halo franchise was still strong, MMOs were still popular, and 2010s games like Minecraft didn’t even come out until the end of the year. I would say at least 2008-2011 is it’s own cultural era. An era that’s very old school compared to a year like 2020. It all depends on where you live though. If you live in a upper class city neighborhoods, you'll find more smartphones and consumption of digital music sales. If you live in small towns and rural areas, there will be people stuck behind in times. You gotta remember that iPod Touch probably started app culture in late 2009/early 2010. Facebook, Tumblr, and Twitter were the top social media of 2011 while sites like MySpace was highly inactive. Minecraft was released as a beta version in 2009. The game was gaining traction in winter 2010/11. Shooter games like Call Of Duty and Battlefield were all the rage in 2011 and continued on into the 2010s. Thor and Captain America were released in 2011, which arguably started the MCU franchise. There was Iron Man in 2008 but it didn't really started the MCU franchise. While Harry Potter movies ended that year, it was still a cultural phenomenon throughout the 2010s. While things were getting better in 2012, the economy was still weak in that year from the Recession. The Avengers started the MCU phenomenon. It was the first movie where many superheroes from various different franchises crossover. It started the cinematic universe trend. It may depend on where you live, but you can’t argue the statistics. Smartphones surpassed feature phones in sales, and digital download music surpassed CDs in sales, by the end of 2011. Not just in small towns and rural areas, but in upper class city neighborhoods as well. FPS games are very late 2000s. They started gaining mainstream traction around 2007. The full version of Minecraft wasn’t release towards the end of the year, which is when the game was fully in swing. The Great Recession technically ended in 2009, but the recovery lasted until 2011-2013. The unemployment rate did start to go down in 2011, but you’re right, it was still somewhat weak in 2012.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 5:00:38 GMT 10
2019.
Seriously, look at your pictures from last summer. You are looking at history.
In just a few years, nobody will dispute this.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 25, 2020 5:01:20 GMT 10
2004-2011 is definitely not one era. That's like 7 years and 2004 is pretty much a different world from 2011.
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