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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 8:04:37 GMT 10
The 2000s didn’t die on December 31 2009. Like every decade, with the exception of the 70s and 2020s, the next decade doesn’t form its own identity until at least the year ending with a 2, a 3, or a 4. In the case of the 2010s, it didn’t start forming its own identity until 2012. Compare 2011 to 2016 vs 2011 to 2006. 2016 feels like a completely different world compared to 2011. The only difference 2011 has with 2006 is electropop, the recession, and a different president. Other than that, there not that much different, especially technology wise. Not sure why you're giving the 2020's an exception. 2020s culture still has no identity yet. I guess it’s cause of the COVID-19 pandemic, but you’re right. It’s too early to tell.
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Post by John Titor on Jul 25, 2020 8:11:49 GMT 10
and inside of that the 2010s had things before like hipster growing in 2007-2008 and Facebook going public to non schools in 2006 that helped give it a kick, 2006 had blackberry pearl while not a smartphone was kind of like an in the middle introduction to smartphones. All in all 2011 is safe to say is the kick off point for the base 2010s culture to start It's easy to see that 2011 is a culturally 2010s year. It's hard to view it as a culturally "2000s" year. 2011 is def not a 2000s year by any means, and this is someone who entered 8th grade in Late 2001 so I saw it all. Some fashions in 2011 depending on region carried over from the 2000s some, but it is not indicative of the vibe.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 25, 2020 8:15:27 GMT 10
Tablets such as the iPad were selling really well in 2011. You can take a look at the graph here. Remember, Q1 means October-December, the fiscal year for Apple ends in September. No one was buying tablets in 2006, thus making 2011 closer to 2016. 
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 8:18:13 GMT 10
Tablets such as the iPad were selling really well in 2011. You can take a look at the graph here. Remember, Q1 means October-December, the fiscal year for Apple ends in September. No one was buying tablets in 2006, thus making 2011 closer to 2016. Agree to disagree. I respect your opinion, but I still stand by my opinion.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 25, 2020 8:37:13 GMT 10
Wtf? The 2010s aren't old school in any sense of the word. Yall trippin' Every time I hear about the 2000s being dated, it hits my heart tho. I definitely like to state the later 2000s are more timeless and acceptable in advancement. The 2000s will forever be the perfect mix of old school and recently technologically up dated to me. The 2000s didn’t die on December 31 2009. Like every decade, with the exception of the 70s and 2020s, the next decade doesn’t form its own identity until at least the year ending with a 2, a 3, or a 4. In the case of the 2010s, it didn’t start forming its own identity until 2012. Compare 2011 to 2016 vs 2011 to 2006. 2016 feels like a completely different world compared to 2011. The only difference 2011 has with 2006 is electropop, the recession, and a different president. Other than that, there not that much different, especially technology wise. No way. 2006 is nowhere near the same as 2011. The difference between both 2006, 2011 and 2016 is huge.
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 8:48:02 GMT 10
The 2000s didn’t die on December 31 2009. Like every decade, with the exception of the 70s and 2020s, the next decade doesn’t form its own identity until at least the year ending with a 2, a 3, or a 4. In the case of the 2010s, it didn’t start forming its own identity until 2012. Compare 2011 to 2016 vs 2011 to 2006. 2016 feels like a completely different world compared to 2011. The only difference 2011 has with 2006 is electropop, the recession, and a different president. Other than that, there not that much different, especially technology wise. No way. 2006 is nowhere near the same as 2011. The difference between both 2006, 2011 and 2016 is huge. Both 2006 and 2011 had PS3, Xbox 360, and the Wii, seventh gen consoles. 2016 had PS4, Xbox One, and the Wii U, eighth gen consoles. Both 2006 and 2011 had the Iraq war going on and Osama Bin Ladin alive, 2016 did not. Both 2006 and 2011 were before any US president supported gay marriage. In 2016, gay marriage was already federally legalized. Both 2006 and 2011 took place in the broadband era, before smartphones and tablets surpassed PCs and flip phones in sales, while 2016 took place in a time where smartphones and tablets became commonplace. Both 2006 and 2011 had IPods, but CDs had stronger sales those years, while 2016 had Pandora and Spotify. Both 2006 and 2011 had a Blockbuster Video, 2016 did not. I can go on about how 2011 has much more in common with 2006 than 2016.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 25, 2020 9:08:51 GMT 10
Both 2011 and 2016 had popular artists such as Justin Bieber, Drake, Adele, Bruno Mars, Taylor Swift
Both 2011 and 2016 had EDM being huge in the charts.
Both 2011 and 2016 had Twitter being popular.
Both 2011 and 2016 had millions of smartphone and tablet sales.
Both 2011 and 2016 had Obama as president.
Both 2011 and 2016 had ongoing conflict in Syria
Both 2011 and 2016 had slim-fitting outfits.
I agree with Casey that 2006, 2011, 2016 are all very different and unique.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 25, 2020 9:37:50 GMT 10
No way. 2006 is nowhere near the same as 2011. The difference between both 2006, 2011 and 2016 is huge. Both 2006 and 2011 had PS3, Xbox 360, and the Wii, seventh gen consoles. 2016 had PS4, Xbox One, and the Wii U, eighth gen consoles. Both 2006 and 2011 had the Iraq war going on and Osama Bin Ladin alive, 2016 did not. Both 2006 and 2011 were before any US president supported gay marriage. In 2016, gay marriage was already federally legalized. Both 2006 and 2011 took place in the broadband era, before smartphones and tablets surpassed PCs and flip phones in sales, while 2016 took place in a time where smartphones and tablets became commonplace. Both 2006 and 2011 had IPods, but CDs had stronger sales those years, while 2016 had Pandora and Spotify. Both 2006 and 2011 had a Blockbuster Video, 2016 did not. I can go on about how 2011 has much more in common with 2006 than 2016. Osama was only alive until May 2011, he wasn't alive for long in 2011. Blockbuster Video was still very well alive and still relevant in 2006, in 2011 it was dying and they declared bankruptcy the year earlier.
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Post by Fantastic Maize on Jul 25, 2020 9:39:02 GMT 10
Both 2006 and 2011 had PS3, Xbox 360, and the Wii, seventh gen consoles. 2016 had PS4, Xbox One, and the Wii U, eighth gen consoles. Both 2006 and 2011 had the Iraq war going on and Osama Bin Ladin alive, 2016 did not. Both 2006 and 2011 were before any US president supported gay marriage. In 2016, gay marriage was already federally legalized. Both 2006 and 2011 took place in the broadband era, before smartphones and tablets surpassed PCs and flip phones in sales, while 2016 took place in a time where smartphones and tablets became commonplace. Both 2006 and 2011 had IPods, but CDs had stronger sales those years, while 2016 had Pandora and Spotify. Both 2006 and 2011 had a Blockbuster Video, 2016 did not. I can go on about how 2011 has much more in common with 2006 than 2016. Osama was only alive until May 2011, he wasn't alive for long in 2011. Blockbuster Video was still very well alive and still relevant in 2006, in 2011 it was dying and they declared bankruptcy the year earlier. Agree to disagree. I respect your opinion, but I still stand by my opinion.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 25, 2020 9:39:17 GMT 10
Both 2011 and 2016 had popular artists such as Justin Bieber, Drake, Adele, Bruno Mars, Taylor Swift Both 2011 and 2016 had EDM being huge in the charts. Both 2011 and 2016 had Twitter being popular. Both 2011 and 2016 had millions of smartphone and tablet sales. Both 2011 and 2016 had Obama as president. Both 2011 and 2016 had ongoing conflict in Syria Both 2011 and 2016 had slim-fitting outfits. I agree with Casey that 2006, 2011, 2016 are all very different and unique. Yeah, while 2011 has similarities to both years, they are mostly moot.
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Post by Khal on Jul 25, 2020 9:39:18 GMT 10
I consider 2008 the last year thats very old. 2009 is the earliest that feels more like today
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jul 25, 2020 10:57:57 GMT 10
Tbh, the 2000s don't really seem that old still, they are definitely dated though. You could argue that 1998/early 1999 was the last "old school" year. Or even 1994, considering how much of a technological milestone 1995 was. 1983 and 1979 are very good contenders for the last "old school" year (mainly for the older crowd) but, I think that's really pushing it back.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 25, 2020 14:42:48 GMT 10
2017-2020 = Recent (0-3 years ago)
2013-2016 = Dated (4-7 years ago)
2006-2012 = Archaic (8-14 years ago)
1991-2005 = Old School (15-29 years ago)
1961-1990 = Retro (30-59 years ago)
1921-1960 = Vintage (60-99 years ago)
<1920 = Antique & Beyond (100+ years ago)
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jul 26, 2020 0:44:53 GMT 10
The 2000s are dated for sure, but I wouldn't say they have yet reached the point where they are firmly "old school". I would even have a hard time calling the '90s old-school. To me, the most recent "old school" year, as in the latest year that has very little to no ties with the world of today whatsoever, would probably be 1986. It was the last year vinyls outsold CD's, the World Wide Web and the first 16-bit and 32-hit multimedia home PC (the "Amiga 500") hadn't yet been invented, and it was arguably the last year before hip-hop started to have a significant influence on the pop-music world.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 26, 2020 2:37:50 GMT 10
Oh, and in 2006 MySpace was still popular. It was dead in 2011.
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