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Post by John Titor on Aug 17, 2020 10:03:59 GMT 10
Like sometimes it takes 10 years to look back and see where things connect. I think it took us about a decade to see how 2009 is more connected with the 2000s then we thought. I am not saying its 100% connected because its removed a bit but in hindsight looking back I think its an example of this.
sometimes a passage of time needs to happen to more accurately decipher eras
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Post by mc98 on Aug 17, 2020 10:44:42 GMT 10
I used to think 2009 was 100% early 2010s a few years ago. While the year itself was partially connected to that era, there was still plenty of 2000s flavors especially in the first half of 2009.
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Post by izay on Aug 17, 2020 11:08:57 GMT 10
I really curious how people are gonna feel about the 2010s and 2000s in 10 years from now.
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Post by John Titor on Aug 17, 2020 11:42:09 GMT 10
I used to think 2009 was 100% early 2010s a few years ago. While the year itself was partially connected to that era, there was still plenty of 2000s flavors especially in the first half of 2009. yupp Circuit City and KB toys were still there until the spring, Scene was still thriving until the VERY last week of the Summer. MTV was pretty much the same except TRL was rebranded with its ON with Alexa Chung as its live daytime show AIm was still there, Myspace was still there.
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Post by rainbow on Aug 26, 2020 10:17:27 GMT 10
I was reading a decadeology discussion from 2014 and this one person said that the world has been the same since 2007. I was laughing at how wrong they were lol. But what was even more laughable is that a lot of other people agreed with them. Nowadays, that would be a pretty dumb thing to say.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 26, 2020 10:37:33 GMT 10
I was reading a decadeology discussion from 2014 and this one person said that the world has been the same since 2007. I was laughing at how wrong they were lol. But what was even more laughable is that a lot of other people agreed with them. Nowadays, that would be a pretty dumb thing to say. By now, you can't deny that 2007 and 2014 are two different worlds.
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Post by rainbow on Aug 26, 2020 11:08:01 GMT 10
I was reading a decadeology discussion from 2014 and this one person said that the world has been the same since 2007. I was laughing at how wrong they were lol. But what was even more laughable is that a lot of other people agreed with them. Nowadays, that would be a pretty dumb thing to say. By now, you can't deny that 2007 and 2014 are two different worlds. Yeah. In 2007: - The iPhone was just barely released, and very little people had an iPhone.
- Flip phones were still more common
- Rock music still made it on the billboard charts
- Myspace was the most popular social media
- We were still in core 2000's culture
- Emo and Scene fashion were prevalent and still big
- Artists like Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Drake were not popular yet
- George Bush was still the president
- Most of 2007 was pre-Great Recession
In 2014:
- Most people had an iPhone at this point, and digital cameras were completely dead
- Myspace was completely dead, and social media like Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram and Twitter were popular
- Rock is completely dead
- Mumble rap starts making it on the billboard charts
- Emo and Scene fashion are dead, and hipster fashion is at its peak
- Words like "Selfie" started taking off, thanks to the prevalent social media culture of Instagram
- Obama is already in his second term
- We were firmly in core 2010's culture
- We were just recovering from the Great Recession
- Artists like Katy Perry, Taylor Swift and Drake are extremely popular
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Post by Telso on Aug 26, 2020 11:47:52 GMT 10
I was reading a decadeology discussion from 2014 and this one person said that the world has been the same since 2007. I was laughing at how wrong they were lol. But what was even more laughable is that a lot of other people agreed with them. Nowadays, that would be a pretty dumb thing to say. They were right tho, you really can't tell the two years apart in this assortment of popular hits:
The impossible game!
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Post by fusefan on Sept 23, 2020 4:20:03 GMT 10
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Post by John Titor on Sept 23, 2020 4:59:07 GMT 10
it is funny how that thread was made before the Fall 2004 shift (emo,myspace, 80s nostalgia ) that dude def needed time for things to settle for a few years before seeing the change
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 3:04:29 GMT 10
I really curious how people are gonna feel about the 2010s and 2000s in 10 years from now. I think the 2000s and 2010s are going to be viewed as a single era much in the same way the 1900s and 1910s are by most today. Still distinct, but the decades have more in common with each other than differences. The 2020 Trumpocalypse and rebuilding society on the other hand will likely define history between now and 2040 or 2050. Nobody is going to be grouping the early 2020s with the late 2010s regardless of how popular trap still is. Speaking of 2009, I've been trying to make the case since around 2013 or so that 2008 and 2009 weren't as culturally 2010s as everyone tried to make them about to be.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 24, 2020 7:10:37 GMT 10
I really curious how people are gonna feel about the 2010s and 2000s in 10 years from now. I think the 2000s and 2010s are going to be viewed as a single era much in the same way the 1900s and 1910s are by most today. Still distinct, but the decades have more in common with each other than differences. The 2020 Trumpocalypse and rebuilding society on the other hand will likely define history between now and 2040 or 2050. Nobody is going to be grouping the early 2020s with the late 2010s regardless of how popular trap still is. Speaking of 2009, I've been trying to make the case since around 2013 or so that 2008 and 2009 weren't as culturally 2010s as everyone tried to make them about to be. I’ve always felt the 2000s and 2010s are similar.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 24, 2020 21:07:45 GMT 10
I really curious how people are gonna feel about the 2010s and 2000s in 10 years from now. I think the 2000s and 2010s are going to be viewed as a single era much in the same way the 1900s and 1910s are by most today. Still distinct, but the decades have more in common with each other than differences. The 2020 Trumpocalypse and rebuilding society on the other hand will likely define history between now and 2040 or 2050. Nobody is going to be grouping the early 2020s with the late 2010s regardless of how popular trap still is. Speaking of 2009, I've been trying to make the case since around 2013 or so that 2008 and 2009 weren't as culturally 2010s as everyone tried to make them about to be. I actually agree that the 2000s and 2010s are very similar to each other. The 2000s were mostly just a more conservative 2010s. The 1900s and the 1910s definitely seem like one era, specifically 1901 - 1919 (1900 and seems much more fitted with the late 19th century), that era is called the "progressive era". I also definitely agree that 2008 and 2009 seem more 2000s than 2010s. For 2020, it's culturally the same as the late 2010s and it would be entirely identical to 2019 if there wasn't a pandemic really.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 22:16:50 GMT 10
I dunno, for me 2009 can still go either way. Gaming was still very much in a 2000s mindset (AAAs were still king and Minecraft was still in alpha) and emo/scene fashion would manage to hold out until 20-freakin-13, but in music electropop was exploding and politically Obama changed EVERYTHING. For the latter, it meant I didn’t have to be embarrassed about being an American anymore (hahaha...) and the atmosphere felt suddenly global and cosmopolitan. To that extent, it was quite different already from the ‘00s.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 25, 2020 0:55:03 GMT 10
I dunno, for me 2009 can still go either way. Gaming was still very much in a 2000s mindset (AAAs were still king and Minecraft was still in alpha) and emo/scene fashion would manage to hold out until 20-freakin-13, but in music electropop was exploding and politically Obama changed EVERYTHING. For the latter, it meant I didn’t have to be embarrassed about being an American anymore (hahaha...) and the atmosphere felt suddenly global and cosmopolitan. To that extent, it was quite different already from the ‘00s. Well, this is how I see it. Politically and economically, 2009 was already quite 2010s. In terms of socially, fashion and internet culture, 2009 can go either way. For technology, video games, movies, TV shows and music, it leans more 2000s. Overall, I think 2009 was mostly a 2000s year and I don't think we were mostly in the 2010s until about late 2009 but, that is just my opinion though. For music in the early 2010s, there was much more to the music scene than just electro-pop (a quick look at the billboard top 100 shows that). Even the electro-pop though in 2009 had an urban/2000s sound to it compared to the stuff from 2010/11ish (which had a more dancy/european sound to it). The last part you typed is also so true, Bush as the president was just getting embarrassing between 2005 - 2008 lmao. Barack Obama being the president and the changing pop culture was such a fresh breathe of air 2009, I was sooo sick of the 2000s by then, there is only so much Dirty Rap, Urban Pop, Post-Grunge and Emo I can take lol.
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