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Post by Fantastic Maize on Aug 22, 2020 6:24:09 GMT 10
Title says it all.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 22, 2020 6:36:22 GMT 10
Definitely 2010. 2009 still had acts like Kings Of Leon, Shinedown, Linkin Park, and All American Rejects having big hits on the charts. As soon as 2010 hits, rock declined dramatically to the point where the biggest "rock" song of that year is Hey Soul Sister.
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Post by Telso on Aug 22, 2020 6:37:30 GMT 10
If you check the charts, then the late 2000s still had a decent amount of rock and power pop songs, but then 2010 came and oddly enough they got completely purged out of it. 2011 at least kind of restored some indie hits back but it was a done deal by then.
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Post by rainbow on Aug 22, 2020 7:35:39 GMT 10
I'd probably say right when the 2010's started IMO.
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Aug 22, 2020 10:27:00 GMT 10
2009/2010.
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Post by John Titor on Aug 22, 2020 15:01:53 GMT 10
was dead by fall 2009
I say this as the sub culture of scene was dead by Fall 2009 as well as Emo
Yes there may have been a few songs.......u get what I mean tho, shortly before the 2010s began rock was dead
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 22, 2020 20:05:04 GMT 10
I think rock fell out of favour quicker in the United States than it did elsewhere. It was definitely on the wayside by 2010, but I remember there were still quite a few legitimately successful rock hits on the charts that year. One song that comes straight to mind is Adam Lambert's "Whataya Want From Me", which was a huge radio hit especially and a song that I heavily associate with 2010. There were also a number of Australian bands who achieved hits throughout the year as well, such as Amy Meredith, Gyroscope, John Butler Trio and Little Red.
So I would have to say that 2011 was the year that the "rock era" came to an end, but even then, the first-half of the year still had a small number of rock songs within the Top-40. "Check Yes Juliet" was one of my favourite songs when I was 12 and I only became aware of it after hearing it being played so many times on the radio. It wasn't until Late 2011/Early 2012 that rock had well and truly kicked the bucket, so to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 20:32:31 GMT 10
It's a toughie. I would say somewhere between 2009 and 2010 is when the death knell came for rock music. Granted, HUGE bands like Linkin Park, RHCP, and Foo Fighters continued to have hit singles up to 2017, but when emo died, it took most of mainstream rock with it. I guess there was nowhere left to go after that, especially as rock became so mainstream that it was no longer associated with rebelliousness.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Aug 22, 2020 22:19:53 GMT 10
Definitely 2010 because, I still remember a bit of Rock on the radio in the first couple months of 2010 (despite its very fast decline at the time). Rock completely died in the mainstream during Spring 2010.
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Post by John Titor on Aug 23, 2020 2:21:31 GMT 10
It's a toughie. I would say somewhere between 2009 and 2010 is when the death knell came for rock music. Granted, HUGE bands like Linkin Park, RHCP, and Foo Fighters continued to have hit singles up to 2017, but when emo died, it took most of mainstream rock with it. I guess there was nowhere left to go after that, especially as rock became so mainstream that it was no longer associated with rebelliousness. I wanna say Fall 2009 and the pop punk/emo/scene trends that went with it as you said. 2008 was a huge catalyst but you cant really say 2008 because Scene was strong, pop punk kind still had a foothold in commercials. When the subculture died I think thats when it was RIP so Fall 2009, also by fall 2009 Electropop was out pacing everything. A huge reason for pop punks demise not the biggest factor but a little factor was Disney channel, there were so many faux pop punk Disney channel artists popping up in 2008 even Miley Cyrus had hints of pop punk in her album, I call it Disney pop punk lol That was a huge SIGNAL that it was on the way out. This was the VERY last pop punk vibe song on the radio that charted in late 2009
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Post by sman12 on Aug 23, 2020 6:59:12 GMT 10
2010, since the only hit rock songs that I remember from that year were "Hey, Soul Sister" by Train, "Animal" by Neon Trees, and "Live Like We're Dying" by Kris Allen. By 2011, we were pretty much in a electro-club musical atmosphere with all of the Lady Gagas, Katy Perrys, and Keshas to make people dance rhythmically.
I wish rock music would be rebellious again and not be as poppy or vegetative now, but computerized instruments are the future, and that's why hip-hop managed to stay relevant from this time: a rap song's instrumentation could be composed of anything, and it could still be classified and admired as hip-hop. But you can't do that with rock music, since the genre's evolution has pretty much fleshed out at this point and kids nowadays care more about creating trap beats than playing guitars.
Sorry if I was going on a tangent, but I wanted to let out my sadness lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 7:15:37 GMT 10
It's a toughie. I would say somewhere between 2009 and 2010 is when the death knell came for rock music. Granted, HUGE bands like Linkin Park, RHCP, and Foo Fighters continued to have hit singles up to 2017, but when emo died, it took most of mainstream rock with it. I guess there was nowhere left to go after that, especially as rock became so mainstream that it was no longer associated with rebelliousness. I wanna say Fall 2009 and the pop punk/emo/scene trends that went with it as you said. 2008 was a huge catalyst but you cant really say 2008 because Scene was strong, pop punk kind still had a foothold in commercials. When the subculture died I think thats when it was RIP so Fall 2009, also by fall 2009 Electropop was out pacing everything. A huge reason for pop punks demise not the biggest factor but a little factor was Disney channel, there were so many faux pop punk Disney channel artists popping up in 2008 even Miley Cyrus had hints of pop punk in her album, I call it Disney pop punk lol That was a huge SIGNAL that it was on the way out. This was the VERY last pop punk vibe song on the radio that charted in late 2009Well that’s just it, isn’t it? Once you have Disney getting into the rock/punk act, it’s no longer the sound of rebellion, is it? At that point, rock music becomes as much a part of mainstream conformity as enjoying jazz had been for an earlier generation. A lot of the power of rock was that it represented a voice of the counterculture. It didn’t necessarily have to be that way, but if you ask me, that’s the X factor that turned it into the dominant sound of late 20th century culture. When it loses the countercultural connotations, that kills its cultural relevancy. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing; ultimately, this was inevitable. Rock was destined to succeed itself into extinction.
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Post by Telso on Aug 23, 2020 7:29:45 GMT 10
2010, since the only hit rock songs that I remember from that year were "Hey, Soul Sister" by Train, "Animal" by Neon Trees, and "Live Like We're Dying" by Kris Allen. By 2011, we were pretty much in a electro-club musical atmosphere with all of the Lady Gagas, Katy Perrys, and Keshas to make people dance rhythmically. I wish rock music would be rebellious again and not be as poppy or vegetative now, but computerized instruments are the future, and that's why hip-hop managed to stay relevant from this time: a rap song's instrumentation could be composed of anything, and it could still be classified and admired as hip-hop. But you can't do that with rock music, since the genre's evolution has pretty much fleshed out at this point and kids nowadays care more about creating trap beats than playing guitars. Sorry if I was going on a tangent, but I wanted to let out my sadness lol. I don't think electronica is necessarily the culprit here. Rock music has throughout its history shown times and times again that it could adapt to whatever new technologies are around, from psychedelic rock heavily toying around with keyboard sounds to new wave to the 90s alternative scene commonly employing electronic textures. One of the plausible reasons is that the band format, in general, is dying. If you think about it, the 2010s are the first decade since the 1950s where the vast majority of hits were made by solo acts (with featurings being the only other overwhelming popular alternative), in stark contrast to 50 years before where practically everything mainstream was made by bands, duos, and pop groups. It might explain why bands like Maroon 5 are forced to hide the fact that they're an actual band in their sound to keep having any relevancy. And judging by how 2020 currently is, the 2020s might turn out even worse in that regard.
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Post by John Titor on Aug 23, 2020 7:43:18 GMT 10
I wanna say Fall 2009 and the pop punk/emo/scene trends that went with it as you said. 2008 was a huge catalyst but you cant really say 2008 because Scene was strong, pop punk kind still had a foothold in commercials. When the subculture died I think thats when it was RIP so Fall 2009, also by fall 2009 Electropop was out pacing everything. A huge reason for pop punks demise not the biggest factor but a little factor was Disney channel, there were so many faux pop punk Disney channel artists popping up in 2008 even Miley Cyrus had hints of pop punk in her album, I call it Disney pop punk lol That was a huge SIGNAL that it was on the way out. This was the VERY last pop punk vibe song on the radio that charted in late 2009Well that’s just it, isn’t it? Once you have Disney getting into the rock/punk act, it’s no longer the sound of rebellion, is it? At that point, rock music becomes as much a part of mainstream conformity as enjoying jazz had been for an earlier generation. A lot of the power of rock was that it represented a voice of the counterculture. It didn’t necessarily have to be that way, but if you ask me, that’s the X factor that turned it into the dominant sound of late 20th century culture. When it loses the countercultural connotations, that kills its cultural relevancy. I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing; ultimately, this was inevitable. Rock was destined to succeed itself into extinction. yupp, here a few Disney Pop punk songs that drove the knife into the relevancy of pop punk and rock music in general
June 2008July 2009so by the time we got to Summer 2009 lets say JULY..... Pop Punk became generic and telephone waiting music
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Post by jaydawg89 on Aug 23, 2020 14:35:34 GMT 10
It's a toughie. I would say somewhere between 2009 and 2010 is when the death knell came for rock music. Granted, HUGE bands like Linkin Park, RHCP, and Foo Fighters continued to have hit singles up to 2017, but when emo died, it took most of mainstream rock with it. I guess there was nowhere left to go after that, especially as rock became so mainstream that it was no longer associated with rebelliousness. I wanna say Fall 2009 and the pop punk/emo/scene trends that went with it as you said. 2008 was a huge catalyst but you cant really say 2008 because Scene was strong, pop punk kind still had a foothold in commercials. When the subculture died I think thats when it was RIP so Fall 2009, also by fall 2009 Electropop was out pacing everything. A huge reason for pop punks demise not the biggest factor but a little factor was Disney channel, there were so many faux pop punk Disney channel artists popping up in 2008 even Miley Cyrus had hints of pop punk in her album, I call it Disney pop punk lol That was a huge SIGNAL that it was on the way out. This was the VERY last pop punk vibe song on the radio that charted in late 2009According to Billboard, 'According to You' peaked on March 6th 2010. But yes, it was definitely the last legit pop punk song I remember in the top 40, there is also another post about Adam Lambert's hit 'Whataya Want from Me' which still had an obvious rock influence to it and peaked on April 3rd 2010. Overall, it seems that Spring 2010 is when Rock completely went the way of the Dodo.
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