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Post by rainbow on Sept 6, 2020 2:11:25 GMT 10
Once again, 2020 is 95% the same as 2019 Culturally, though I'd agree that politics have been in the news about Trump vs Biden as well as the coronavirus public concerns. As for the economy, well you know the answer. Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️
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Post by mc98 on Sept 6, 2020 2:17:25 GMT 10
I will say the pop culture of 2020 does feel a little bit different from 2017, and maaayybe early 2018.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 6, 2020 2:46:41 GMT 10
Once again, 2020 is 95% the same as 2019 Culturally, though I'd agree that politics have been in the news about Trump vs Biden as well as the coronavirus public concerns. As for the economy, well you know the answer. Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️ in before this thread is stolen by con artist Lyric boy and rebranded with a different title, having said that lol I do agree 2020 has the potential at being a transitional year, lets just wait and see guys if Biden wins. Music from 2019 to 2020 is a little bit lighter but is still mostly the same. We will know by the end of the year.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 6, 2020 2:55:38 GMT 10
I agree that late 2018 was the start of pure late 2010s culture. I feel like late 2016 - mid 2018 was like a dying period of the core 2010s. I do believe as of right now, we are slowly transitioning to early 20s culture, we will know the more further we go. The US election in November will be the big meat depending on which candidate will win. Yeah pretty spot on.
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Post by #Infinity on Sept 6, 2020 6:12:09 GMT 10
Once again, 2020 is 95% the same as 2019 Culturally, though I'd agree that politics have been in the news about Trump vs Biden as well as the coronavirus public concerns. As for the economy, well you know the answer. Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️ We don't know what 2020s culture as a whole will be like yet, considering the first year of the decade hasn't even ended yet. However, it's pretty clear that 2020 is at the very least dramatically different from 2019 due to the countless impacts of COVID. In 2019, you could casually go to a movie theatre and eat out; in 2020, you can't. In 2019, you could go on a vacation to visit an amusement park and see a concert; in 2020, you can't. In 2019, you felt encouraged to go outside and hang out with people in all sorts of social events; in 2020, you can't. Even after the pandemic ends and lives return somewhat to normal, a lot of things caused by COVID will be permanent, such as the increased integration of video chat (which is more convenient in many ways), the death of certain prominent businesses (one of my favorite restaurants since childhood got killed by the pandemic, something I'm still reeling over), and increased sensitivity over keeping your hands clean for fear of spreading disease. The gap between previous pairs of xxx9 and xxy0 years is nowhere near as steep, even if music in 2020 is still mostly dominated by DIY-style trap.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 6:15:19 GMT 10
While I can see validity in both arguments, I’m definitely in the “COVID-19 changed everything” camp. After all, the first Great Depression hit very suddenly on Black Tuesday, there were still flappers up through 1932, Hoover was still president until spring 1933, and Hollywood didn’t transition from sleaze and experimentation into full on Hayes Code censorship (and ironically, the beginning of the Golden Age) until 1934 or arguably even 1935. But I think most cultural historians would agree that despite these things hanging around from the previous decade, the Roaring Twenties definitely ended on October 29, 1929. I mean, this is that level of societal shock, forcing a radical change to the way we live - creative works will follow. Not immediately, but it is going to become increasingly apparent in hindsight.
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Post by sman12 on Sept 8, 2020 8:26:51 GMT 10
The late 2010’s were politically just as divisive as today. 2020 is just the ultimate peak of the turmoil that started by the time Trump was elected. And if anything, I believe coronavirus will mark the ultimate peak of that era. I 100% agree with this. 2020 really does feel like the culmination of the ills of the mid-late 2010s with a pandemic on top of it. And the November election this year will most likely be a catastrophe not seen since 2000 with the mail-in voting crisis and all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 14:59:28 GMT 10
Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️ We don't know what 2020s culture as a whole will be like yet, considering the first year of the decade hasn't even ended yet. However, it's pretty clear that 2020 is at the very least dramatically different from 2019 due to the countless impacts of COVID. In 2019, you could casually go to a movie theatre and eat out; in 2020, you can't. In 2019, you could go on a vacation to visit an amusement park and see a concert; in 2020, you can't. In 2019, you felt encouraged to go outside and hang out with people in all sorts of social events; in 2020, you can't. Even after the pandemic ends and lives return somewhat to normal, a lot of things caused by COVID will be permanent, such as the increased integration of video chat (which is more convenient in many ways), the death of certain prominent businesses (one of my favorite restaurants since childhood got killed by the pandemic, something I'm still reeling over), and increased sensitivity over keeping your hands clean for fear of spreading disease. The gap between previous pairs of xxx9 and xxy0 years is nowhere near as steep, even if music in 2020 is still mostly dominated by DIY-style trap. I agree with this. Music is about the only thing that is similar in 2020 to the late '10s in my opinion. Looking back at pictures from 2019, it seems like a world that is too good to be true. I really think we are a decade away from whatever the new normal is going to be. It's going to be 2-3 years before we will even be able to end lockdown and then 10+ years before the economy comes back. I think most bars and restaurants popular in the 2010s won't be there in 2025. The entire hospitality industry is going to have to rebuild itself from the ground up. Cities are going to be a lot more boring in the coming decade than they were in the 2010s. I think a lot of midsized cities that were just starting to see urban growth, largely due to the hipster trend, will be set back 15-20 years. I have a feeling this is the end of new urbanism and US living preferences will return to favoring suburbs and car-oriented commercial developments. With all of the amenities gone, there will be no reason to pay high, big-city prices. Another thing is I think retail as we knew it is gone for ever. Brick-and-mortar, outside of a few big boxes, aren't going to survive this. This is the end of the shopping mall. In the 2010s, some people thought that entertainment-focused retail may save the day for shopping malls, but I don't think many of these properties, even high-end ones, will be able to wait the 5-7 years that it's going to be before that's a viable business model again. While I think the office will eventually come back, nearly all department stores and mall clothing stores will not survive the next few years since everyone is working from home. Amazon is the mall of the future. I think the 2030s are going to be a decade to look forward to, but it's going to be a long, painful road to get there. The 2020s aren't going to be a fun decade, especially in the US. Even if Trump loses, the damage has been done. If Trump wins, I fully expect full-blown theocracy in parts of the US by 2030.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 20:50:22 GMT 10
We don't know what 2020s culture as a whole will be like yet, considering the first year of the decade hasn't even ended yet. However, it's pretty clear that 2020 is at the very least dramatically different from 2019 due to the countless impacts of COVID. In 2019, you could casually go to a movie theatre and eat out; in 2020, you can't. In 2019, you could go on a vacation to visit an amusement park and see a concert; in 2020, you can't. In 2019, you felt encouraged to go outside and hang out with people in all sorts of social events; in 2020, you can't. Even after the pandemic ends and lives return somewhat to normal, a lot of things caused by COVID will be permanent, such as the increased integration of video chat (which is more convenient in many ways), the death of certain prominent businesses (one of my favorite restaurants since childhood got killed by the pandemic, something I'm still reeling over), and increased sensitivity over keeping your hands clean for fear of spreading disease. The gap between previous pairs of xxx9 and xxy0 years is nowhere near as steep, even if music in 2020 is still mostly dominated by DIY-style trap. I agree with this. Music is about the only thing that is similar in 2020 to the late '10s in my opinion. Looking back at pictures from 2019, it seems like a world that is too good to be true. I really think we are a decade away from whatever the new normal is going to be. It's going to be 2-3 years before we will even be able to end lockdown and then 10+ years before the economy comes back. I think most bars and restaurants popular in the 2010s won't be there in 2025. The entire hospitality industry is going to have to rebuild itself from the ground up. Cities are going to be a lot more boring in the coming decade than they were in the 2010s. I think a lot of midsized cities that were just starting to see urban growth, largely due to the hipster trend, will be set back 15-20 years. I have a feeling this is the end of new urbanism and US living preferences will return to favoring suburbs and car-oriented commercial developments. With all of the amenities gone, there will be no reason to pay high, big-city prices. Another thing is I think retail as we knew it is gone for ever. Brick-and-mortar, outside of a few big boxes, aren't going to survive this. This is the end of the shopping mall. In the 2010s, some people thought that entertainment-focused retail may save the day for shopping malls, but I don't think many of these properties, even high-end ones, will be able to wait the 5-7 years that it's going to be before that's a viable business model again. While I think the office will eventually come back, nearly all department stores and mall clothing stores will not survive the next few years since everyone is working from home. Amazon is the mall of the future. I think the 2030s are going to be a decade to look forward to, but it's going to be a long, painful road to get there. The 2020s aren't going to be a fun decade, especially in the US. Even if Trump loses, the damage has been done. If Trump wins, I fully expect full-blown theocracy in parts of the US by 2030. You paint a bleak picture, but unfortunately I have to agree. And yes, Jeff Bezos will have more money than God by the end of the decade.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Sept 13, 2020 9:38:25 GMT 10
I agree that late 2018 was the start of pure late 2010s culture. I feel like late 2016 - mid 2018 was like a dying period of the core 2010s. I do believe as of right now, we are slowly transitioning to early 20s culture, we will know the more further we go. The US election in November will be the big meat depending on which candidate will win. I totally agree with that. Late 2016-mid 2018 was the last period of the core 2010's and a transition from mid 2010's culture to late 2010's culture. Late 2018 definitely started pure late 2010's culture that ended in early 2020 due to the coronavirus, though I still definitely think we are in the late 2010's but now a transitional period going into the early 2020's.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Sept 13, 2020 9:39:25 GMT 10
Once again, 2020 is 95% the same as 2019 Culturally, though I'd agree that politics have been in the news about Trump vs Biden as well as the coronavirus public concerns. As for the economy, well you know the answer. Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️ Exactly. People really overexaggerate the changes that happened due to the coronavirus and can't see the bigger picture.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 22:54:26 GMT 10
Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️ Exactly. People really overexaggerate the changes that happened due to the coronavirus and can't see the bigger picture. Actually when you look at the bigger picture, that's when it's easier to see the differences. Pretty much everything good and positive in life died in March 2020. That's a big deal. Most people are predicting 2-3 years of lockdown and 10-15 years of economic ruin if you live in the U.S. This is the worst disaster any of us have had to live through. I can agree music hasn't changed much since 2017. There's more to life than music.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 1:50:01 GMT 10
Exactly. 2020 will be looked back on as a transitional year into 2020’s culture. The fact that people think I’m crazy for saying this is fucking wild to me lol. I got a lot of shit on inthe00s for thinking 2020 is a transitional year and not a full on cultural 2020’s year. Because apparently coronavirus was so, so impactful that we just woke up one day and suddenly it was 100% 2020’s culture. And yet I’m getting called crazy for thinking that’s not how it works. 🤦🏽♀️ Exactly. People really overexaggerate the changes that happened due to the coronavirus and can't see the bigger picture. I’d say it’s the opposite: people who insist that very little has changed are ignoring the bigger picture.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 2:01:14 GMT 10
Exactly. People really overexaggerate the changes that happened due to the coronavirus and can't see the bigger picture. I’d say it’s the opposite: people who insist that very little has changed are ignoring the bigger picture. I think music and movies are going to continue to lag simply because not much is being done right now because of the quarantine. Music is entering uncharted territory. With concerts, bars, and nightclubs not existing for the next 3-5 years, I can see one of the biggest shifts in pop music history occurring. I think the genres people listen to are going to change. For example, I don't think EDM will remain a force in an era where festivals can't happen and nightclubs aren't open. Party music in general will decline. I think it's a perfect time for a new singer/songwriter era. On the other hand, music could stagnate and be stuck with trap until 2025. I don't think that will happen though. I think the coming shift towards animated entertainment as opposed to live action will be the beginning of 2020s Hollywood.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 4:31:48 GMT 10
I’d say it’s the opposite: people who insist that very little has changed are ignoring the bigger picture. I think music and movies are going to continue to lag simply because not much is being done right now because of the quarantine. Music is entering uncharted territory. With concerts, bars, and nightclubs not existing for the next 3-5 years, I can see one of the biggest shifts in pop music history occurring. I think the genres people listen to are going to change. For example, I don't think EDM will remain a force in an era where festivals can't happen and nightclubs aren't open. Party music in general will decline. I think it's a perfect time for a new singer/songwriter era. On the other hand, music could stagnate and be stuck with trap until 2025. I don't think that will happen though. I think the coming shift towards animated entertainment as opposed to live action will be the beginning of 2020s Hollywood. That too, I think cinema is going to lean hard into animation and CGI. I can also foresee video games experiencing yet another triumphant decade.
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