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Post by mc98 on Sept 17, 2020 10:49:31 GMT 10
I think it's a good time to make this thread since we've spent the majority of 2020 already. Does 2017 feel closer to 2014 or 2020 culturally?
With the virus happening in 2020, it's closer to 2014 but without the virus, 2017 is definitely closer to 2020 in terms of culture.
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Post by rainbow on Sept 17, 2020 11:05:01 GMT 10
Easily more like 2020. I don't think I even need to explain myself here.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 17, 2020 11:05:54 GMT 10
2020. Mumble-rap really started to take off around the beginning of the year and it went on to define the music of 2017 (much like it has this year). Also, the mumble-rap songs that have been released in 2020 wouldn't have sounded out of place had they been released three years earlier. In terms of politics and current events, it is definitely much more like 2020, given the fact that Trump was in office and the year saw the emergence of the #MeToo movement. I remember music.aly was popular with the kids in the younger grades at high school too. That was a precursor to Tik Tok.
Besides both years being pre-pandemic, the only way in which 2017 was culturally similar to 2014 was that indie-pop and EDM were still on the charts that year, although their chart presence had declined in comparison to how culturally relevant they were in the Mid 2010s.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 17, 2020 20:51:01 GMT 10
It depends on the aspect but, 2017 definitely seems closer to 2020 (despite the pandemic). 2014 was mostly a mid 2010s year but, there was still touches of early 2010s culture, you can argue that it felt closer to 2011 rather than 2017. The pop culture of 2017 just felt a watered down version of the mid 2010s and 2020 just feels like 2017 but with Tik Tok as an influence.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 17, 2020 23:10:38 GMT 10
It depends on the aspect but, 2017 definitely seems closer to 2020 (despite the pandemic). 2014 was mostly a mid 2010s year but, there was still touches of early 2010s culture, you can argue that it felt closer to 2011 rather than 2017. The pop culture of 2017 just felt a watered down version of the mid 2010s and 2020 just feels like 2017 but with Tik Tok as an influence. Mid 2016 to the start of 2017 is similar to late 2014. The reason to me is that that period was essentially mid 2010s with increasing trump discussion/influence, minor or more noticable tiny upgrades or changes in pop culture and a vague newish feeling. While it's late 2010s technically, the spirit is closer to late 2014-2015 era. 2013-2014, while the start of the mid 2010s, has too much early 2010s aspects for sure. Spring/Mid 2017 has more in common with 2020. Whether the late 2010s ended in late 18,19 or early 2020 it still wouldn't make a difference The whole watering down aspect of the core 2020s was most noticeable around the end of 2017/beginning of 2018 and we are still part of that era and watering down process until the 2020s takes some kind of shape, a difference that can be felt, outside of socio-politcal and covid impact and competes or is visibly distinct to the dying 2010s culture we are still kind of in.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 18, 2020 0:38:39 GMT 10
It depends on the aspect but, 2017 definitely seems closer to 2020 (despite the pandemic). 2014 was mostly a mid 2010s year but, there was still touches of early 2010s culture, you can argue that it felt closer to 2011 rather than 2017. The pop culture of 2017 just felt a watered down version of the mid 2010s and 2020 just feels like 2017 but with Tik Tok as an influence. Mid 2016 to the start of 2017 is similar to late 2014. The reason to me is that that period was essentially mid 2010s with increasing trump discussion/influence, minor or more noticable tiny upgrades or changes in pop culture and a vague newish feeling. While it's late 2010s technically, the spirit is closer to late 2014-2015 era. 2013-2014, while the start of the mid 2010s, has too much early 2010s aspects for sure. Spring/Mid 2017 has more in common with 2020. Whether the late 2010s ended in late 18,19 or early 2020 it still wouldn't make a difference The whole watering down aspect of the core 2020s was most noticeable around the end of 2017/beginning of 2018 and we are still part of that era and watering down process until the 2020s takes some kind of shape, a difference that can be felt, outside of socio-politcal and covid impact and competes or is visibly distinct to the dying 2010s culture we are still kind of in. I agree that the mid 2016-early 2017 period was still somewhat connected to the late 2014-2015 period. Trumps election may have changed the atmosphere but it was kinda minor and the changes weren’t major until the coming months. Around summer 2017 was when it felt a bit disconnected from 2014 and more like today’s culture.
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Post by sman12 on Sept 18, 2020 4:54:37 GMT 10
2020. At least in 2014, the political polarization wasn't as severe (well, besides BLM), music was more upbeat, and memes were more "dank" and MLG-influenced.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 21, 2022 21:19:26 GMT 10
Easily 2020. 2014 was when smartphone ubiquity was still relatively new. The entire year was transitory between 7th gen and 8th gen consoles. Windows 7 was king rather than windows 10. Arguable that facebook was still dominant for youth culture rather than instagram. 2020 had strong late 10s musical holdovers whereas 2017 felt mostly different from 2014 in that department. Memes hadn't fully permeated society and was in an experimental phase whereas 2016 was when memes started to feel like they do today. I won't even get started on the political changes, it's self explanatory.
late 2015 and 2016 was a huge shift that doesn't get enough credit.
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