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Post by slashpop on Sept 23, 2020 2:44:50 GMT 10
What things still had an early 2010s feel in early 2014. Here are a few things that come to mind
- A lot of pop music has beats, sounds, vibes that still would pass in 09-12 - Some people, small but notable percentage, still haven't adopted smartphones and or tablets yet - Social media hasn't entered a phase were enough people are starting to get sick of it, like not too far after, feels almost mandatory like the early 2010s. - Some people are stuck in the older gaming gen because the new consoles were recently released and still too expensive - Worn out effect and cheesy pixelated graphics still going strong as opposed to later - Colorful, flashy, loud and eccentric hipster fashion had more presence compared to 14/2015 onwards - A few scene, emo and late 00s hipster and mainstream fashion influences left - DVDs/Blu-Rays still going strong, streaming hasn't completely made its mark yet - Some political and cultural aspects of mid 2010s are not fully established yet.
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Post by Telso on Sept 23, 2020 3:46:22 GMT 10
- A lot of pop music has beats, sounds, vibes that still would pass in 09-12 Definitely not. Most 2014 pop songs had already moved away from the abrasive hoover synth sounds of the early 2010s for more minimalistic or hip hop-influenced beats.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 23, 2020 3:53:56 GMT 10
- A lot of pop music has beats, sounds, vibes that still would pass in 09-12 Definitely not. Most 2014 pop songs had already moved away from the abrasive hoover synth sounds of the early 2010s for more minimalistic or hip hop-influenced beats. Didn’t say all but a number of songs, it’s fair to say a lot of songs had an early 2010s feel. We all know that change already took place. Some degree of music in 2014 still had sounds that would not feel out of place in late 09-12.
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Post by Telso on Sept 23, 2020 4:26:39 GMT 10
Didn't say all but a number of songs, it’s fair to say a lot of songs had an early 2010s feel. We all know that change already took place. Some degree of music in 2014 still had sounds that would not feel out of place in late 09-12. I'm not sure what the feel you're talking about. Most huge pop hits were about partying and high-energy dancing in 09-12. By early 2014, most hits were mellow and subdued, like ballads and indie stuff, as well as odd tracks like "Dark Horse" and "Talk Dirty" that wouldn't fit in the period prior.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 23, 2020 4:36:13 GMT 10
I would say Timber, Burn, and Summer could be hits in the early 2010s. Maybe Happy too.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 23, 2020 5:45:19 GMT 10
Didn't say all but a number of songs, it’s fair to say a lot of songs had an early 2010s feel. We all know that change already took place. Some degree of music in 2014 still had sounds that would not feel out of place in late 09-12. I'm not sure what the feel you're talking about. Most huge pop hits were about partying and high-energy dancing in 09-12. By early 2014, most hits were mellow and subdued, like ballads and indie stuff, as well as odd tracks like "Dark Horse" and "Talk Dirty" that wouldn't fit in the period prior. Early 2010s music doesn't have as much of this overly polished, formulaic, tight mold and chiller vibe like the mid 2010s but very identical generally speaking since a lot of that core 2010s style was solidified by 2009-2011. There obviously was a change in 2013, never disagreed. However here was still some degree of music that sounded early 2010s and or blurred the lines between early 2010s and mid 2010s at least during 2013-2014, there isn't always this super distinct dividing line between music from 2011 or so imo and then, even with changes in pop music, its not always black and white. I also remember electronic music being really popular then and heavy rock music genres was still quite popular in 2013-2014, much more than 14/15 to the present. Many agree 2014 has many early 2010s songs. Pop doesn't necessarily only mean top 40 and can vary by region and yes there were different trends in the early 2010s but some of the structure is nearly identical. I haven't memorized the charts, since I primarily listen to underground and rock music but i do have sense and memory of a number of pop hits that would not feel out of place in 09-12 A lot of this stuff from early to mid 2014 imo for example could pass imo in 2009/2010 to 2012/2013. 2012 2011/2012 2009/2010 Sounds like adele song to me from 2011 Could be made at any time from 2010-2013
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Post by mc98 on Sept 23, 2020 5:56:18 GMT 10
I think we need to realize that early 2010s is not only limited to hard-hitting electropop party jams even though it was the most notable trend in music. Adele and Bruno Mars were hitting big in the early 2010s and their music wasn't considered electropop. Indie was also popular in the early 2010s. Even though many early-mid 2014 hits were more in the mid 2010s lane, a decent amount of them were a bit blurry to be fully detached from the early 2010s pop scene. Dark Horse, Turn Down For What, Drunk In Love, and Talk Dirty would not fit in the early 2010s because of their unique production that wasn't mainstream in the previous era, they are perfectly mid 2010s. However, songs like All of Me, Pompeii, Let Her Go, Summer, and Happy would not have such a problem fitting in with the early 10s.
A late 2013/early 2014 hit:
Their song released in 2010:
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Post by Telso on Sept 23, 2020 7:24:46 GMT 10
I think we need to realize that early 2010s is not only limited to hard-hitting electropop party jams even though it was the most notable trend in music. Adele and Bruno Mars were hitting big in the early 2010s and their music wasn't considered electropop. Indie was also popular in the early 2010s. Sure, but we're talking about "feels and vibes" in this thread. And the charts being purged out of the party-oriented music, by far the most defining aspect of the early 2010s, invalidates 2014 as "feeling early 2010s" to me. The flop of "Marchin On" and the massive succes of "Counting Stars" sort of illustrates how much charting power cleaner indie-inspired productions had in a way too.
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Post by Telso on Sept 23, 2020 7:43:45 GMT 10
This is a deep house song transitioning into the then-emerging tropical house, which puts emphasis on summery and light moods. Definitely couldn't have been made before 2014 at all. Let alone in 2012 when house music was all about big drumming festival-oriented sounds. Didn't say grassroots indie like this didn't exist or wasn't popular in the early 2010s, though it wasn't the main driving force of popular music yet. Sounds like adele song to me from 2011 You could say that "Roar", released in August 2013, was sort of a watered down version of Katy's Teenage Dream singles I guess, with a blander sort of pop rock-inspired production rather than big hockey synths. Not really understanding the Adele comparison however. Could be made at any time from 2010-2013 This was a game changer for the mainstream pop soul genre. Rather than relying on retro-inspired overproduced productions like in the early 2010s (say Cee-Lo Green's "Fuck You", Beyoncé's "Love on Top" and Emeli Sandé's "Next to Me"), pop soul songs might instead have very simple syncopated drum kicks while putting most focus on the airy and light call-and-response vocals. So I definitely strongly disagree with that.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 23, 2020 8:12:25 GMT 10
This is a deep house song transitioning into the then-emerging tropical house, which puts emphasis on summery and light moods. Definitely couldn't have been made before 2014 at all. Let alone in 2012 when house music was all about big drumming festival-oriented sounds. This song is LITERALLY a remix of a very early 2010s song. That nobody knew about until this was released. No similar deep house music didn’t magically pop out of nowhere in 2014. The I’ve heard stuff like this in clubs in 2012ish I can promise that and I remember this kind of stuff getting big around then along with similar house and electronic music.
TBH this can almost be any euro pop song from 03-13.
Didn't say grassroots indie like this didn't exist or wasn't popular in the early 2010s, though it wasn't the main driving force of popular music yet. Maybe in 2008 to 09/10. By late 2011/12 to mid 2013, even to some extent 2010-2011 grassroots indie was popular as hell.
Infact you heard less of this by 2016.
It totally replaced a huge portion of the dying late 00s rock scene by 2011.
From 09-early 14 mainstream rock/alternative bands like the artic monkeys were MASSIVE much more than 14/2015 onwards. As were sub branches of rock and metal genres even though harder rock was not as big as the 00s and indie was becoming bigger, both still had a strong presence.
Charts/certain charts reflect this on some level but also know that charts are not always an accurate reflection of everything and vary by region.
Sounds like adele song to me from 2011 You could say that "Roar", released in August 2013, was sort of a watered down version of Katy's Teenage Dream singles I guess, with a blander sort of pop rock-inspired production rather than big hockey synths. Not really understanding the Adele comparison however. This stuff was topping the charts in early 2014 which is why it was mentioned.
The chorus does.
Sounds early 2010s as fCould be made at any time from 2010-2013 This was a game changer for the mainstream pop soul genre. Rather than relying on retro-inspired overproduced productions like in the early 2010s (say Cee-Lo Green's "Fuck You", Beyoncé's "Love on Top" and Emeli Sandé's "Next to Me"), pop soul songs might instead have very simple syncopated drum kicks while putting most focus on the airy and light call-and-response vocals. So I definitely strongly disagree with that. I barely recall that many songs that that topped the charts with this style from 2015-2017 enough to make it such a product of the mid 2010s it’s innovative and inspired others but it still seem ambiguous core 2010s song and can go both ways or be seen as early 2010s imo
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Post by mc98 on Sept 23, 2020 8:38:54 GMT 10
I think we need to realize that early 2010s is not only limited to hard-hitting electropop party jams even though it was the most notable trend in music. Adele and Bruno Mars were hitting big in the early 2010s and their music wasn't considered electropop. Indie was also popular in the early 2010s. Sure, but we're talking about "feels and vibes" in this thread. And the charts being purged out of the party-oriented music, by far the most defining aspect of the early 2010s, invalidates 2014 as "feeling early 2010s" to me. The flop of "Marchin On" and the massive succes of "Counting Stars" sort of illustrates how much charting power cleaner indie-inspired productions had in a way too. You are right, 2014 doesn't feel early 2010s at most. However, a lot of the songs from the first half of 2014 wouldn't fit in with 2016+.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 23, 2020 8:45:42 GMT 10
Sure, but we're talking about "feels and vibes" in this thread. And the charts being purged out of the party-oriented music, by far the most defining aspect of the early 2010s, invalidates 2014 as "feeling early 2010s" to me. The flop of "Marchin On" and the massive succes of "Counting Stars" sort of illustrates how much charting power cleaner indie-inspired productions had in a way too. You are right, 2014 doesn't feel early 2010s at most. However, a lot of the songs from the first half of 2014 wouldn't fit in with 2016+. 2014 as entire whole doesn’t, but the early part has early 2010s vibes in music, songs that can go both ways AND songs that are literally early 2010s. I think you agreed earlier, including last point and named examples of songs you agreed felt early 2010s.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 23, 2020 8:53:59 GMT 10
You are right, 2014 doesn't feel early 2010s at most. However, a lot of the songs from the first half of 2014 wouldn't fit in with 2016+. 2014 as entire whole doesn’t, but the early part has early 2010s vibes in music, songs that can go both ways AND songs that are literally early 2010s. I think you agreed earlier, including last point and named examples of songs you agreed felt early 2010s. I mean the early part of 2014 did have some residues of the early 10s but it was clearly mid. The point is a good amount of early 2014 songs would be more popular in 2012 rather than late 2015/2016.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 23, 2020 9:06:38 GMT 10
2014 as entire whole doesn’t, but the early part has early 2010s vibes in music, songs that can go both ways AND songs that are literally early 2010s. I think you agreed earlier, including last point and named examples of songs you agreed felt early 2010s. I mean the early part of 2014 did have some residues of the early 10s but it was clearly mid. The point is a good amount of early 2014 songs would be more popular in 2012 rather than late 2015/2016. You still had some substantial degree of early 2010s style music beyond residues imo. Yes exactly a good of amount of early 2014 songs would be popular 2012. I don’t see a real strong break other than the transformations in late 2013 that defined the mid part. I see early 2014 as something like 60 percent mid 10s and 40 percent early 10s. Would be cool to expand more, if possible, with examples of different things not necessarily related to music but could be. I mentioned a few In the original post.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 23, 2020 9:20:07 GMT 10
I mean the early part of 2014 did have some residues of the early 10s but it was clearly mid. The point is a good amount of early 2014 songs would be more popular in 2012 rather than late 2015/2016. You still had some substantial degree of early 2010s style music beyond residues imo. Yes exactly a good of amount of early 2014 songs would be popular 2012. I don’t see a real strong break other than the transformations in late 2013 that defined the mid part. I see early 2014 as something like 60 percent mid 10s and 40 percent early 10s. Would be cool to expand more, if possible, with examples of different things not necessarily related to music but could be. I mentioned a few In the original post.Early-mid 2014 was the last period of political stability. There wasn't a bitter divide between the left and right. I remember seeing my friends on Facebook throughout the year. After 2014 ended, they seem to move away from it and moved to Instagram or Snapchat. Streaming didn't take over television just yet. Cable TV was quite popular despite it declining. Fashion felt more like the early 2010s than late 2010s. I remember hipster-inspired fashion was at its peak in 2014 and began to shrink in 2016.
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