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Post by slashpop on Sept 24, 2020 3:49:42 GMT 10
Original Song from 2010 sounds MOSTLY THE SAME and could be from anytime in 2009-2014 and the this song just songs like a speed up remix. The particularities of the subgenre and transitional state of the song is really irrelevant, to the average listener it just sounds like another songs from time period that could be released then 2011/2012/2013 most likely, it doesn't stick out as being EXCLUSIVELY mid 2010s. It's not a just speed up remix, the Robin Shulz version is structured very much like a house song with drops and "four on the flour" beats to dance to, unlike the original. Don't be ridiculous. It does indeed stick out as exclusively mid-2010s, since popular house songs in the early 2010s like say "Don't You Worry Child" had a far busier, synthier, grandier sound and feel. "Prayer in C (Remix)" marked a shift where mainstream house songs could warmer and softer and less festival-friendly. I actually never heard this song before and when I listened for the first time in 2014, I thought it was something I heard in the late 2000s.
The underlying main tune itself, putting aside the house remix,still had an early 2010s vibe and is a 2010 song. As far as the house mix, so even if all this is correct, it still sounds like it could be made at any time in the early 2010s since the template was mostly there and very similar, especially out not be out of place in 2011-2013 or earlier. I've heard warm techno-pop and house inspired songs from late 2000s to early 2010s that have a very very similar sound even if this exact subgenre and its peak in popularity was not in full effect. Even if there is an impact/shift just based on this song, which I can't verify as I can't go through 1000 of house songs, it doesn't seem to be as distinct or pronounced as Farrell, which I admit could go both ways.
I was talking about tropical house relative to older deep house. Please don't twist discussion threads like that. The use of indie vocals and organic instruments in 2011-2013 EDM was pretty much non-existent. I wasn't twisting discussing threads. I've heard some degree of the above in context earlier described regardless of the exact genre classification or the one you intended. Back on original topic, the milky chance song sounds like something from the early 2010s, I think number of songs were recorded in 12, even the fashion and style in the videos to some extent, I recall hearing similar music from that time again in 11-13/14, indie music got big in early 2010s and carried in 2013-2014 from what I remember, and the artic monkeys singles were released in early 2014 from their 2013 album and there were a few rock hits in a similar vein to this band, I don't recall the rest of the mid 2010s having this dynamic. The underground rock scene (punk, metal, black metal, goth etc) still felt like a continuation or peak of the bands who first got together in early 10s and to some extent the late 00s, and a lot of elements or particular genres bands were still carrying the style they established then. Lastly there were many hits from 2011-early 2013 that were still really popular in 2013-2014. There were not well established in late 2012, simply because tropical house trends didn't exist yet. Simple as that. Shifts can indeed happen pretty quickly in music and 2 years can be enough to see trends being dropped in favor newer ones. Transitions can indeed happen over a long time, but they can also happen very rapidly. A good example would be 1962 still mostly being defined by doo-wop, 50s-style ballads and watered down rock & roll, while in 1964 the British Invasion was in full swing. Yes but it doesn't always happen like that. Yes tropical house didn't explode until 2013-2015 but music landscape in the early 2010s contains songs with very similar sounds and the general template was already there in 2012-2013. And I could not see it fitting at all. Again, (electronic) europop songs in the mid-2000s were the complete opposite of the relaxed "Prayer in C (Remix)" if anything:
Three examples aren't enough examples. I was there, I'm telling you I felt that, no i can't remember, you just have to take my word or not believe me. I haven't memorized top 40 techno/dance/pop radio and dj mixes from europe during 2007-2010That's VERY specific. IMO it tells a lot if a super popular song in one era could only be played in a very specific place in another. Yeah I was living in Europe for a few years in the late 2000s. And that stuff sounds still sounds like some kind of cross of the techno/dance and even you could say hipster music of that era, even considering the factual context of and particular remix of the song. I've even heard similar stuff elsewhere so its not only in europe There're two very popular Katy Perry pop singles still. It's very telling if one song's style already expired in a certain year. Obviously dubstep was dead at some point in 2014. The other example I mentioned first still sounds like an early 2010s song and yes it was on the charts for a while in early 2014.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 24, 2020 4:09:09 GMT 10
I'm sorry Slashpop but I disagree with you on Prayer In C. It sounds like the most mid 2010s EDM song ever. I don't think I've heard EDM songs in 2010-13 that sound like it. There are many examples of songs from the mid 2010s that sound similar.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 24, 2020 4:17:56 GMT 10
I'm sorry Slashpop but I disagree with you on Prayer In C. It sounds like the most mid 2010s EDM song ever. I don't think I've heard EDM songs in 2010-13 that sound like it. There are many examples of songs from the mid 2010s that sound similar. Yeah I know all these songs, I still don't see it that way. The main tune is from 2010 even if it is remixed and the vibe from that song in particular is connected to the early 2010s and 2000s for me, despite the info. Sorry!
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Post by mc98 on Sept 24, 2020 4:41:14 GMT 10
I mean the Prayer In C remix sounds more similar to these songs but whatever.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 24, 2020 4:45:06 GMT 10
I mean the Prayer In C remix sounds more similar to these songs but whatever. Yeah, i know what you were referring to, they do sound similar but the main tune in prayer c remix still sounds like an early 2010s song to me.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 24, 2020 20:56:36 GMT 10
What slashpop means is that despite 2014 being dominated by mid 2010s culture, there were still a few early 2010s influences hanging on. It's like how 2010 was dominantly a 2010s year but, there were still a few 2000s influences that survived into 2010 and early 2011.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 25, 2020 0:32:08 GMT 10
I think we can all agree that there were more early 2000s vibes in early 2004 than early 2010s in early 2014.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 25, 2020 3:56:16 GMT 10
I think we can all agree that there were more early 2000s vibes in early 2004 than early 2010s in early 2014. Hmmm I'm not sure there is any bearing between the two decades. I'm sure the mid 1960s or cut off points for example are vastly different. Early 2004 was in last phase of the transitional early 2000s, so it wasn't mid 2000s yet. A few things, implies early 2014 did have a substantial early 10s influence largely carried over from mid to late 2012, which to some extent was a bit transitional, however its understandable that it was wasn't the majority or always noticeable to everyone , possibly due to being blended into the era and fading out fast, but it was definitely not just very small, and was there, distinct and felt by many. Maybe once the era becomes old enough or with more examples this will become a bit more apparent. The early 2010s identity especially from 2011 to early 2013 has more in common and identical in many ways with the early mid 2010s than the late 00s or late 10s, overally vibe wise imo. A LOT of stereotypical 2010s things were already in full swing by then. Comparing random songs and new or peaking of music genres, or a few personal recollections just own their own, might offer some insights but don't make or break the general sum of influences of the year imo. Other things that strike me as early 2010s in 2014 - Retroish sunglasses or funky colored frames and a few haircuts still carried over and noticeable from the 11- early 13 - Busy and or overly vintage fashion design an that looked dated in 2015-2017 - Graphic design trends from 11-13 still quite visible - Longer hair in guys - Feminist, LGBT greater influence wasn't exactly the same as in the rest of the mid 2010s just yet - A lot of semi flat/CRT TVs still in the market or used to some extent.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 25, 2020 4:18:09 GMT 10
I think we can all agree that there were more early 2000s vibes in early 2004 than early 2010s in early 2014. Hmmm I'm not sure there is any bearing between the two decades. I'm sure the mid 1960s or cut off points for example are vastly different. Early 2004 was in last phase of the transitional early 2000s, so it wasn't mid 2000s yet. A few things, implies early 2014 did have a substantial early 10s influence largely carried over from mid to late 2012, which to some extent was a bit transitional, however its understandable that it was wasn't the majority or always noticeable to everyone , possibly due to being blended into the era and fading out fast, but it was definitely not just very small, and was there, distinct and felt by many. Maybe once the era becomes old enough or with more examples this will become a bit more apparent. The early 2010s identity especially from 2011 to early 2013 has more in common and identical in many ways with the early mid 2010s than the late 00s or late 10s, overally vibe wise imo. A LOT of stereotypical 2010s things were already in full swing by then. Comparing random songs and new or peaking of music genres, or a few personal recollections just own their own, might offer some insights but don't make or break the general sum of influences of the year imo. Other things that strike me as early 2010s in 2014 - Retroish sunglasses or funky colored frames and a few haircuts still carried over and noticeable from the 11- early 13 - Busy and or overly vintage fashion design an that looked dated in 2015-2017 - Graphic design trends from 11-13 still quite visible - Longer hair in guys - Feminist, LGBT greater influence wasn't exactly the same as in the rest of the mid 2010s just yet - A lot of semi flat/CRT TVs still in the market or used to some extent. I totally agree with you. Besides the music, there are still stuff from early 2014 that could still pass as early 2010s. The Tumblr SJW trend wasn't on people's radar and the reactionary alt-right didn't exist either. I still saw some hair swoops in early 2014. Flappy Bird was part of the gaming app hype that was prevalent in the early 10s. I also remember some people still saying swag. A lot of fashion trends from this period were extinct by 2016:
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Post by rainbow on Sept 25, 2020 5:56:03 GMT 10
I’m surprised people are saying there weren’t any early 2010’s leftovers in 2014. From my memory, there were still noticeable early 2010’s traces left. For example, People still used Skype to video chat because Discord wasn’t actually released until May 2015. ooVoo was also still common (I actually used it back in 2014), and apps like Kik were still going strong. IMO it’s culturally more like 2012 than 2016.
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Post by mc98 on Sept 25, 2020 8:25:07 GMT 10
I’m surprised people are saying there weren’t any early 2010’s leftovers in 2014. From my memory, there were still noticeable early 2010’s traces left. For example, People still used Skype to video chat because Discord wasn’t actually released until May 2015. ooVoo was also still common (I actually used it back in 2014), and apps like Kik were still going strong. IMO it’s culturally more like 2012 than 2016. Ikr, 2014 feels closer to 2012 than 2016. Many new things were being introduced in 2015 that wasn’t common the year before and became more popular in 2016. That doesn’t take away the fact that 2014 was mid 2010s but 2016 was clearly heading towards the late 2010s.
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