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Post by goodbants on Oct 9, 2020 12:58:45 GMT 10
It feels like people complain about it less than they did in the 2000s. Of course, a lot of people feel like it still sucks. It’s just there are so many worse things than pop culture now. People in the 00s we be like “the 2000s are the worst because it’s so bland, music sucks, etc.” I don’t know, when I look back at archives, it just seems really complain-y to me. People were really, really upset about reality tv and celebrities and music and stuff and it just seems kind of silly to me now in 2020. Are people more satisfied with pop culture now? Or are there more things to worry about so pop culture doesn’t dominate conversations as much as it used to?
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Post by jaydawg89 on Oct 9, 2020 13:31:20 GMT 10
People are always complaining about current pop culture. In the 90s, people were saying that the 90s sucked and wanted to go back to the 70s/80s. In the 70s/80s, people were trying to bring back the 1950s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 9, 2020 20:49:49 GMT 10
I don't hear as many older people complaining about current pop culture as I did in the past. Maybe i'm just not paying as much attention to it or i'm not listening to the right things, but I can distinctively remember as a kid when people on the radio and TV would bag out the '90s (especially the Late '90s) as being the decade when music went downhill and how music had been sh*t ever since. I mean, I still come across negative comments about current pop culture trends across the net and even here on our forum, but it has been quite a long time since I last heard anyone complain about it in real life.
I think streaming is the reason for it. Pop culture is so fragmented now, there's a countless number of thriving niche communities on the internet which each have thousands of followers or millions of views. BTS is one of the biggest bands in the world in terms of how large their fanbase is, but they've had very limited success on the western Top-40 charts and they've received little to no airplay on the radio. The 'mainstream' doesn't have as much cultural significance as it did in the past. "Blinding Lights" may be one of the biggest hits of 2020, but there would be millions of people who haven't even been exposed to it and it has since become quite easy to avoid current chart hits if you wish to. I could play one of my parents a song that is currently within the Top-10 on the ARIA Chart and i'm 99% certain they wouldn't have heard it or be familiar with it. In comparison, I could play them a song from 2004 such as "Take Me Out" or "Toxic" and even though they weren't due to them being in their late 30s/early 40s, there's a good chance they would recognise the song due to the fact that pop culture was less fragmented then and it was harder to avoid hearing the newest songs on the charts.
Obviously pop culture is not all about music, but it's the best example of how pop culture has become so fragmented over time. People don't tune in at 6pm every weeknight to watch the news. You can search for it anytime of the day on your smartphone or laptop, just like how you can watch a movie or TV show on Netflix or Amazon Prime whenever you want. The world has changed and so have the attitudes towards current culture.
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Post by slashpop on Oct 9, 2020 21:13:47 GMT 10
It’s always existed but I barely remember complaining or being overly critical about the present time in the early and mid 90s. I remember we were proud to be in the 90s. I remember the phrases “It’s the 90s get with the times”, “that’s so 80s”
I think it hating the current era thing starting popping up more and more in 1997-2000 and got really big throughout the 2000s and 2010s to some degree much more than today.
I think what triggered it in 1997-1999 was drop in quality of radio and film, 3d games without the soul of the 2d era, Britney spears, spice girls, hanson and boy bands and just a bland and safe vibe in certain things.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 10, 2020 1:26:51 GMT 10
It’s always existed but I barely remember complaining or being overly critical about the present time in the early and mid 90s. I remember we were proud to be in the 90s. I remember the phrases “It’s the 90s get with the times”, “that’s so 80s” I think it hating the current era thing starting popping up more and more in 1997-2000 and got really big throughout the 2000s and 2010s to some degree much more than today. I think what triggered it in 1997-1999 was drop in quality of radio and film, 3d games without the soul of the 2d era, Britney spears, spice girls, hanson and boy bands and just a bland and safe vibe in certain things. I remember teachers in class in 1997 complaining about BSB and Spice Girls lmao these were like Young Gen Xers, personally ? I think it was needed things got way 2 dark in the mid 90s.
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Post by slashpop on Oct 10, 2020 12:43:11 GMT 10
It’s always existed but I barely remember complaining or being overly critical about the present time in the early and mid 90s. I remember we were proud to be in the 90s. I remember the phrases “It’s the 90s get with the times”, “that’s so 80s” I think it hating the current era thing starting popping up more and more in 1997-2000 and got really big throughout the 2000s and 2010s to some degree much more than today. I think what triggered it in 1997-1999 was drop in quality of radio and film, 3d games without the soul of the 2d era, Britney spears, spice girls, hanson and boy bands and just a bland and safe vibe in certain things. I remember teachers in class in 1997 complaining about BSB and Spice Girls lmao these were like Young Gen Xers, personally ? I think it was needed things got way 2 dark in the mid 90s. I’m just taking about the trend of people complaining about the era. Like every period has it but you stared to here a lot more critical opinions of pop culture as early as 1997. Personally that period was way better than stuff that came after. At the same time those years could been a bit better versions of what they already were Imo. The spice girls, aqua and Hanson were much higher quality pop than stuff from 2000 for example, a lot of games are still decent or classic. Yeah things naturally had to evolve or change like any period. Stuff may have been too dark at some point or a bit bland like 95-1996 but I don’t remember massive attacks on the pop culture like any point the late 90s to mid 00s.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 10, 2020 13:11:37 GMT 10
I remember teachers in class in 1997 complaining about BSB and Spice Girls lmao these were like Young Gen Xers, personally ? I think it was needed things got way 2 dark in the mid 90s. I’m just taking about the trend of people complaining about the era. Like every period has it but you stared to here a lot more critical opinions of pop culture as early as 1997. Personally that period was way better than stuff that came after. At the same time those years could been a bit better versions of what they already were Imo. The spice girls, aqua and Hanson were much higher quality pop than stuff from 2000 for example, a lot of games are still decent or classic. Yeah things naturally had to evolve or change like any period. Stuff may have been too dark at some point or a bit bland like 95-1996 but I don’t remember massive attacks on the pop culture like any point the late 90s to mid 00s. me either actually, the only thing I remember is the Simpsons episode dissing Gen X culture and grunge bands, and maybe the slacker moniker but I never really heard the mid 90s getting dissed, maybe Gangsta rap being 2 extreme, but u really didn't hear it that much, it was pretty this is what it is and its pretty cool kind of vibe. I don't remember anyone dissing the mid 90s as it happened, like no one said the movies of the mid 90s sucked as they happened.
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Post by fusefan on Oct 12, 2020 17:53:52 GMT 10
I remember until about 2008, 1997-1999 was the pont everything “went downhill” then that was bumped up to 2000 or 2001, then in the early 2010s it was bumped up to 2004, in the mid 2010s it was bumped up to 2006-2008, now it’s “anything after 2010-2013 sucks!”
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Post by fusefan on May 7, 2021 5:16:26 GMT 10
Yeah, I remember in the 2000s everybody online complained about current stuff and it seemed people mostly agreed. Now if you complain about current stuff you get responses like “Ok boomer” or “HuRr DuRr oLd sTUFf GoOD NeW bAd!” or “r/lewronggeneration”.
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Post by John Titor on May 7, 2021 9:03:40 GMT 10
pop culture is somewhat better now, I see less complaining tbh in comparison to previous years
but yes in the 2000s everyone was like "I miss the 90s" but not on a macro level
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Post by 10slover on Sept 7, 2021 1:13:54 GMT 10
Yes.
And popular culture is objectively better now than in 2011 or 2016.
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Post by Telso on Sept 7, 2021 3:01:56 GMT 10
Yes. And popular culture is objectively better now than in 2011 or 2016. For someone called "10slover" you sure don't seem to be very positive towards the 2010s
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Post by 10slover on Sept 7, 2021 3:05:37 GMT 10
Yes. And popular culture is objectively better now than in 2011 or 2016. For someone called "10slover" you sure don't seem to be very positive towards the 2010s Plenty of people who love the 80s recognize that 80s culture was cheesy and bigoted
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Post by dudewitdausername on Sept 10, 2021 12:22:15 GMT 10
Yes. And popular culture is objectively better now than in 2011 or 2016. yo c'mon how could you think this. 2011 had awesome new for the time-sounding music (let's face it most 2021 pop music is long-in-the-tooth), popular shows like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, pre-Season 7 The Walking Dead, Obama as the president of the US. 2016 maybe but 2011 definitely had better pop culture than today.
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Post by 10slover on Sept 10, 2021 20:21:47 GMT 10
Yes. And popular culture is objectively better now than in 2011 or 2016. yo c'mon how could you think this. 2011 had awesome new for the time-sounding music (let's face it most 2021 pop music is long-in-the-tooth), popular shows like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, pre-Season 7 The Walking Dead, Obama as the president of the US. 2016 maybe but 2011 definitely had better pop culture than today. Yes but the bad stuff was REALLY bad
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