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Post by mc98 on Oct 14, 2020 3:24:26 GMT 10
While late 90s elements were coming in quickly, what makes the late 1996/early 1997 period somewhat connected to the mid 90s?
-Grunge fashion was still visible
-Many R&B songs sounds very mid 90s
-The Space Jam soundtrack also sounds mid 90s
-Biggie Still making hits
-Many artworks and posters still use dark and gritty aesthetics
-Curtained hair was still more popular than bleached hair.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 14, 2020 4:39:28 GMT 10
While late 90s elements were coming in quickly, what makes the late 1996/early 1997 period somewhat connected to the mid 90s? -Grunge fashion was still visible -Many R&B songs sounds very mid 90s -The Space Jam soundtrack also sounds mid 90s -Biggie Still making hits -Many artworks and posters still use dark and gritty aesthetics -Curtained hair was still more popular than bleached hair. People still played SNES as Donkey Kong Country 3 was out as well as Megaman X3, N64 and PS1 adoption didn't really hit it's stride until mid 1997. Family Matters and Step by Step still on ABC TGIF, The Simpsons were still in their power period, Beavis and Butthead still popular. Nick still in their power period. WWF still in their new generation era, altho started to get more edgy with Steve Austin around November 1996.
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Post by slashpop on Oct 15, 2020 4:37:30 GMT 10
-Standard levis jeans, flannel and curtained bowl cuts not an uncommon sight
-Tucked in shirts not a fashion crime yet
-3d gaming sometimes feels a bit connected to the mid 90s 3d games you'd find in arcades or 3d consoles circa 1995.
-Pogs and sports and franchise trading cards were still common household items almost everyone was really into.
-MTV had a healthy balance of music genres and heavy rock music varieties even if grunge was on its last legs.
-Internet had good mainstream presence but it wasn't a completely instant research tool yet and email still isn't a common thing almost everyone has like a bit later.
-Peak of authentic post grunge, early pop punk, 90s hard rock and early nu metal.
-Last gasp of eurodance and gangsta rap
-A number of cartoons and shows that started in the mid 90s are still popular including the franchises . Alex mac, spiderman, goosebumps, X-men, animaniacs, pinky and the brain etc.
-Mixtapes still popular
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 14:38:56 GMT 10
I feel like people call it mid-90s only because it wasn't 100% late '90s like 1999 was. Other than that it does feel late '90s to me, probably because I already had Internet that year, 5th Gen gaming was under way, Cartoon Network was popular at least in Asia/Europe, and I started watching DBZ and Sailor Moon. (DBZ might have been 1998, unsure).
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Post by slashpop on Oct 20, 2020 20:50:25 GMT 10
I feel like people call it mid-90s only because it wasn't 100% late '90s like 1999 was. Other than that it does feel late '90s to me, probably because I already had Internet that year, 5th Gen gaming was under way, Cartoon Network was popular at least in Asia/Europe, and I started watching DBZ and Sailor Moon. (DBZ might have been 1998, unsure). I remember the culture was largely mid 90s which separates it a bit from the rest even if there were late 90s elements established. For some reason I remember sailor moon and dragon ball z being popular in 1995-1996. Not sure if there were english dubs over french dragon ball z, which was translated to french earlier than the american 1996 launch, but sailor moon was pretty popular as well. Did have a lot of asians in my school as well.. Internet got a bit more popular 1995-1996 compared to 94-95 from what I remember. I remember going to electronics boutique at fairview mall that year and checking out all the software, a number of times, computer games would take a lot of shelf space then.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 21, 2020 1:02:15 GMT 10
I feel like people call it mid-90s only because it wasn't 100% late '90s like 1999 was. Other than that it does feel late '90s to me, probably because I already had Internet that year, 5th Gen gaming was under way, Cartoon Network was popular at least in Asia/Europe, and I started watching DBZ and Sailor Moon. (DBZ might have been 1998, unsure). I remember the culture was largely mid 90s which separates it a bit from the rest even if there were late 90s elements established. For some reason I remember sailor moon and dragon ball z being popular in 1995-1996. Not sure if there were english dubs over french dragon ball z, which was translated to french earlier than the american 1996 launch, but sailor moon was pretty popular as well. Did have a lot of asians in my school as well.. Internet got a bit more popular 1995-1996 compared to 94-95 from what I remember. I remember going to electronics boutique at fairview mall that year and checking out all the software, a number of times, computer games would take a lot of shelf space then. DBZ and Sailor Moon used to come on at 6am on either UPN or Fox on Saturdays from 96 to 97 and yupp I watched it, it was more of a cult cool thing, Remember Suncoast? Suncoast started becoming an Anime paradise around this time.
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Post by slashpop on Oct 21, 2020 1:49:35 GMT 10
I remember the culture was largely mid 90s which separates it a bit from the rest even if there were late 90s elements established. For some reason I remember sailor moon and dragon ball z being popular in 1995-1996. Not sure if there were english dubs over french dragon ball z, which was translated to french earlier than the american 1996 launch, but sailor moon was pretty popular as well. Did have a lot of asians in my school as well.. Internet got a bit more popular 1995-1996 compared to 94-95 from what I remember. I remember going to electronics boutique at fairview mall that year and checking out all the software, a number of times, computer games would take a lot of shelf space then. DBZ and Sailor Moon used to come on at 6am on either UPN or Fox on Saturdays from 96 to 97 and yupp I watched it, it was more of a cult cool thing, Remember Suncoast? Suncoast started becoming an Anime paradise around this time. I don't think we had that in Canada, I actually can't remember clearly since I wasn't very deeply into those shows. But in canada there may have been english dubs over the french. In France and possibly french part of Canada, Dragon ball got released wayy earlier than late 1996. Sailor moon was released in 1995. Also I remember going to chinese market in toronto in 1995-1996 and seing tons of sailor moon and dragon ball stuff next to kerropi and hello kitty stuff. I can't remember if I say anything pokemon releted though, maybe I just didn't notice it but I'm sure it got to other asian countries before the US around that time.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 21, 2020 2:10:23 GMT 10
DBZ and Sailor Moon used to come on at 6am on either UPN or Fox on Saturdays from 96 to 97 and yupp I watched it, it was more of a cult cool thing, Remember Suncoast? Suncoast started becoming an Anime paradise around this time. I don't think we had that in Canada, I actually can't remember clearly since I wasn't very deeply into those shows. But in canada there may have been english dubs over the french. In France and possibly french part of Canada, Dragon ball got released wayy earlier than late 1996. Sailor moon was released in 1995. Also I remember going to chinese market in toronto in 1995-1996 and seing tons of sailor moon and dragon ball stuff next to kerropi and hello kitty stuff. I can't remember if I say anything pokemon releted though, maybe I just didn't notice it but I'm sure it got to other asian countries before the US around that time. anime was super buzzing around that time and we all know obv the influx of Tamagotchi/Digimon (Digimon came out in the us in 1997 as a digital pet) + Pokemon 98 mania really made it pop. It was fun tho watching DBZ before it blew up, and you are right, I remember OG Dragon Ball in 1995 but it didn't last long on WB and the timeslot was like 5 am lol Watching it that earlier made it cooler tbh like no one was awake but you watching it.
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Post by mc98 on Oct 21, 2020 2:15:13 GMT 10
Even though Wannabe by Spice Girls set the tone for late 90s teen pop, the production of the song sounds more mid 90s. Same thing with their next single Say You'll Be There.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 12:31:20 GMT 10
Oh yeah, the curtained hair/grunge fashion was a big dividing line between the mid and late '90s. Once hip hop and boy bands take over in pop culture, we are fully in late '90s territory.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Oct 27, 2020 14:42:32 GMT 10
Even though Wannabe by Spice Girls set the tone for late 90s teen pop, the production of the song sounds more mid 90s. Same thing with their next single Say You'll Be There. Also NSYNC's first songs like I Want You Back and Tearin' Up My Heart felt mid 90's but it was still late 90's teen pop.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 27, 2020 16:19:27 GMT 10
Even though Wannabe by Spice Girls set the tone for late 90s teen pop, the production of the song sounds more mid 90s. Same thing with their next single Say You'll Be There. Also NSYNC's first songs like I Want You Back and Tearin' Up My Heart felt mid 90's but it was still late 90's teen pop. to be fair that song came out in 96 overseas first before hitting us later
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Post by slashpop on Oct 27, 2020 21:36:35 GMT 10
I've never really been into that music but I remember hearing the very first backstreet boys single in 1996 or early 1997 in Canada. A lot of early pop stuff from this era is a bit underrated actually, I think its better than other material by the same groups a few years after. This is comes to mind when thinking of boy bands during 1996-1997:   
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Post by bestmvp29 on Oct 28, 2020 13:08:00 GMT 10
Also NSYNC's first songs like I Want You Back and Tearin' Up My Heart felt mid 90's but it was still late 90's teen pop. to be fair that song came out in 96 overseas first before hitting us later Good point. Didn't it get released in early '98 in the US? So it probably looked a bit outdated for 1998, though I will say, while 1997-1998 was the start of the Millennium era, it was also partially core 90's imo, and didn't go full-on Millennium until 1998-1999.
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Post by aja675 on Oct 28, 2020 13:13:32 GMT 10
I treasure my memories from when I was 1 or 2 because even though there was often teen pop as background music in them, at least I could remember a time when fashion was still quite 1996ish.
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