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Post by dudewitdausername on Nov 25, 2020 13:17:42 GMT 10
Think about it. 2005 and 2010 feels like a much bigger difference than 2015 and 2020. For example, musical genres changed SO MUCH between those five years compared to the five years between 2015 and now. In 2005, hip hop and R&B was the dominant genre, in 2010, electropop was the dominant genre. In 2015, trap was becoming the dominant genre, in 2020, trap is the dominant genre.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 13:26:59 GMT 10
Music isn't going to have much to do with social media. I think the reason music is relatively stagnant is because radio and streaming services have figured out people like to hear familiar songs over and over rather than new stuff. On a lot of other things though 2015 and 2020 are very different.
ItsMichael and daywatch like this
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Post by John Titor on Nov 25, 2020 13:40:36 GMT 10
it sped it up actually
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Post by John Titor on Nov 25, 2020 13:41:19 GMT 10
Think about it. 2005 and 2010 feels like a much bigger difference than 2015 and 2020. For example, musical genres changed SO MUCH between those five years compared to the five years between 2015 and now. In 2005, hip hop and R&B was the dominant genre, in 2010, electropop was the dominant genre. In 2015, trap was becoming the dominant genre, in 2020, trap is the dominant genre. What do you guys think? it sped it up actually but then slowed down somewhere around 2015/2016
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 25, 2020 15:38:37 GMT 10
Technology has slowed down the progression of pop culture, but social media itself isn't the cause of it. I would say smartphones are more to blame. The amount of change that occurred between 2005 to 2010 was something of an anomaly. Not only did a lot of things change in the cultural sense, but there was also a lot of societal and political change as well. The way in which people went about their lives changed rapidly during that five year period. For instance, back in 2005, smartphones were non-existent, most households only had a analogue-TV and the majority of people hadn't heard of social media. Casual homophobia was still quite prevalent, it was definitely more of a pre-political correctness time (there's no way the lesbian joke at 0:53 in this ad would be allowed to be used today) and people were still very reliant on physical media (e.g CDs, DVDs) to consume entertainment. When you think back to what life was like back in 2015 (pandemic aside), very little has really changed in the grand scheme of things. If I wanted to stream a movie back in 2015, I could have done so. Windows 10, Instagram and Snapchat were already well established, as was app culture. Music changes very little now because the world has become increasingly fragmented over time, and it will only continue to do so.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 25, 2020 16:08:06 GMT 10
Technology has slowed down the progression of pop culture, but social media itself isn't the cause of it. I would say smartphones are more to blame. The amount of change that occurred between 2005 to 2010 was something of an anomaly. Not only did a lot of things change in the cultural sense, but there was also a lot of societal and political change as well. The way in which people went about their lives changed rapidly during that five year period. For instance, back in 2005, smartphones were non-existent, most households only had a analogue-TV and the majority of people hadn't heard of social media. Casual homophobia was still quite prevalent, it was definitely more of a pre-political correctness time (there's no way the lesbian joke at 0:53 in this ad would be allowed to be used today) and people were still very reliant on physical media (e.g CDs, DVDs) to consume entertainment. When you think back to what life was like back in 2015 (pandemic aside), very little has really changed in the grand scheme of things. If I wanted to stream a movie back in 2015, I could have done so. Windows 10, Instagram and Snapchat were already well established, as was app culture. Music changes very little now because the world has become increasingly fragmented over time, and it will only continue to do so. Myspace was huge lol it was the 1# most viewed site beating google in 2006 (there were songs referencing myspace as well as tv shows ) I think you mean like people who were like 40 + at the time right. Back to the question at hand tho, the period between 2005-2010 is indeed an anomaly, like I am not sure that was really suppose to happen the way it did but it did ! Even with video games not that much has changed either, ps5 is not THAT big of a leap over ps4, mostly ray tracing new textures, and dual feed back controller.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 25, 2020 16:16:00 GMT 10
Technology has slowed down the progression of pop culture, but social media itself isn't the cause of it. I would say smartphones are more to blame. The amount of change that occurred between 2005 to 2010 was something of an anomaly. Not only did a lot of things change in the cultural sense, but there was also a lot of societal and political change as well. The way in which people went about their lives changed rapidly during that five year period. For instance, back in 2005, smartphones were non-existent, most households only had a analogue-TV and the majority of people hadn't heard of social media. Casual homophobia was still quite prevalent, it was definitely more of a pre-political correctness time (there's no way the lesbian joke at 0:53 in this ad would be allowed to be used today) and people were still very reliant on physical media (e.g CDs, DVDs) to consume entertainment. When you think back to what life was like back in 2015 (pandemic aside), very little has really changed in the grand scheme of things. If I wanted to stream a movie back in 2015, I could have done so. Windows 10, Instagram and Snapchat were already well established, as was app culture. Music changes very little now because the world has become increasingly fragmented over time, and it will only continue to do so. Myspace was huge lol it was the 1# most viewed site beating google in 2006 (there were songs referencing myspace as well as tv shows ) I think you mean like people who were like 40 + at the time right. No, I honestly don't remember people speaking of Myspace back in 2005 at all, whether that be kids, teens or adults. Granted, I was only a 6 year old kid at the time, but this Google Trends data seems to back up my memories of the time ( link):  It didn't start to take off here until about early 2006.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 25, 2020 16:19:56 GMT 10
Myspace was huge lol it was the 1# most viewed site beating google in 2006 (there were songs referencing myspace as well as tv shows ) I think you mean like people who were like 40 + at the time right. No, I honestly don't remember people speaking of Myspace back in 2005 at all, whether that be kids, teens or adults. Granted, I was only a 6 year old kid at the time, but this Google Trends data seems to back up my memories of the time ( link): It didn't start to take off here until about early 2006. Myspace was all anyone could talk about from 2005-2007 it was everywhere on T-shirts in the media, quoted in tv shows, movies songs. It was pop culture and was the breeding ground (in the united states) for cementing Emo and it's spin off Scene. Myspace changed pop culture. It may have been a United States thing tho but everyone was on Myspace in 2005 and no one could shut up about it, it had to been because you were 6.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 25, 2020 16:28:22 GMT 10
It may have been a United States thing tho but everyone was on Myspace in 2005 and no one could shut up about it, it had to been because you were 6. It had to have been. As you can see by that graph I shared, Myspace was hardly searched for at all here in Australia during 2005, it had a search value of just 2% in August of that year. I don't think my age has too much to do with it; Myspace simply hadn't taken off yet in Australia. I can remember it being popular between 2006 and 2008 though.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 25, 2020 16:30:54 GMT 10
It may have been a United States thing tho but everyone was on Myspace in 2005 and no one could shut up about it, it had to been because you were 6. It had to have been. As you can see by that graph I shared, Myspace was hardly searched for at all here in Australia during 2005, it had a search value of just 2% in August of that year. I don't think my age has too much to do with it; Myspace simply hadn't taken off yet in Australia. I can remember it being popular between 2006 and 2008 though. thats gotta be it, man if u were here in the usa during that time u would be sick of hearing the word Myspace lol I often think how different the 2000s would have been here if Myspace had not come out.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 26, 2020 1:53:46 GMT 10
Well, 2015 and 2020 are very different. Not as different as 2005 and 2010 but still has noticeable distinctions, even music-wise.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 26, 2020 2:40:04 GMT 10
Even in mid to late 2000s early social media was starting to have an influence on culture and was pivotal in changing the way people interact and share information. It already was changing the traditional media models of entertainment and social culture common in 90s and early 2000s and starting to have a subtle influence on pop culture by 2005.
I don’t think emo, scene and punk/metal revival would be what they are without social media in the mid 2000s as well.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 26, 2020 2:58:22 GMT 10
Even in mid to late 2000s early social media was starting to have an influence on culture and was pivotal in changing the way people interact and share information. It already was changing the traditional media models of entertainment and social culture common in 90s and early 2000s and starting to have a subtle influence on pop culture by 2005. I don’t think emo, scene and punk/metal revival would be what they are without social media in the mid 2000s as well. I know right ! When Shark told me that Emo took off in Australia in 2006 that tells me that they get things way way way later or the lack of Myspace influence over there stunted it's growth. Because me and you all remember how emo was a force in USA/Canada the mid 2000s even before that Black Parade album dropped in late 2006. Would Unites States even get scene when it popped off in December 2006 -early 2007 ish had it not been for Myspace ? Prob not. The 2000s emo wave that happened needed something like a myspace to influence the culture.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 26, 2020 3:22:34 GMT 10
Even in mid to late 2000s early social media was starting to have an influence on culture and was pivotal in changing the way people interact and share information. It already was changing the traditional media models of entertainment and social culture common in 90s and early 2000s and starting to have a subtle influence on pop culture by 2005. I don’t think emo, scene and punk/metal revival would be what they are without social media in the mid 2000s as well. I know right ! When Shark told me that Emo took off in Australia in 2006 that tells me that they get things way way way later or the lack of Myspace influence over there stunted it's growth. Because me and you all remember how emo was a force in USA/Canada the mid 2000s even before that Black Parade album dropped in late 2006. Would Unites States even get scene when it popped off in December 2006 -early 2007 ish had it not been for Myspace ? Prob not. The 2000s emo wave that happened needed something like a myspace to influence the culture. 100 % Honestly I want to move back to the Influence to late 2004. I remember MySpace building itself up and starting to get popular in mid 2004. You also had other early social media around that time everyone forgets like tribe.net In 2001-2003 where people from 15-33 were hanging out in physical places more, buying cds at the mall, using pay phones with a limited amount of phones , instant messenger, making cd mixes from cds and mp3 etc news came from mtv, radio magazines and limited use of the internet. Wikipedia/internet info was not this instant and developed as the mid to late 2000s. By late 2004/2005 social media changed so much of this. Kids got exposed to fashion styles, music, info really really fast without mtv or traditional media being the center like earlier. It wasn’t just MySpace and emo kids but the youth culture people forget how Wikipedia drastically changed in mid 2000s and how much of difference it made.
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Post by sman12 on Nov 26, 2020 4:18:52 GMT 10
I think it enhanced pop culture. Social media and the expansion of music streaming services like Soundcloud and Spotify helps label A&Rs to seek out new and interesting artists. Thanks to the diversity of artists that billions of people are listening to, there isn't a stringent form of pop culture for young people to latch on to (unlike in the past where you had the radio and MTV).
But I do think the popular music we've been hearing for a few years will probably change next year (or 2022).
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