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Post by #Infinity on Feb 11, 2019 9:53:41 GMT 10
In your opinion, which two of these eras bled into each other the most? I would say the Mid 2010s and the Late 2010s. Honestly, the Late 2010s only started to feel culturally distinct for me when Bad Wolves' "Zombie" became a hit in Early 2018 and Fortnite rose in popularity. I know a lot of people like to refer to the day Donald Trump was elected as the dividing point between the two eras and while it may be the case from a social/political point of view, pop culture didn't just suddenly change overnight. You really exaggerate the impact of "Zombie". That was a fluke hit that really just got popular due to Dolores O'Riordan's death, and even then, it was barely a hit in realistic terms. #26 is not particularly high; in America, it only reached #54 and missed the Billboard Year-End list for 2018. Even when it was first released, I distinctly remember you not caring for it, but I guess you allowed it to grow on you specifically because you're so desperate to see real rock songs such as it return to the mainstream? Whatever the case, since the "Zombie" cover came out, nothing that sounds anything like it has gotten huge. When Panic! at the Disco returned late last year, they sounded nothing like their legit rock origins in the 2000s but rather yet another "rock" act devolved into generic arena pop. The trends have not shifted.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 11, 2019 11:12:43 GMT 10
You really exaggerate the impact of "Zombie". That was a fluke hit that really just got popular due to Dolores O'Riordan's death, and even then, it was barely a hit in realistic terms. #26 is not particularly high; in America, it only reached #54 and missed the Billboard Year-End list for 2018. Even when it was first released, I distinctly remember you not caring for it, but I guess you allowed it to grow on you specifically because you're so desperate to see real rock songs such as it return to the mainstream? Whatever the case, since the "Zombie" cover came out, nothing that sounds anything like it has gotten huge. When Panic! at the Disco returned late last year, they sounded nothing like their legit rock origins in the 2000s but rather yet another "rock" act devolved into generic arena pop. The trends have not shifted. "Zombie" was a reasonably big hit here in Australia though, despite only peaking at #26 on the ARIA Chart (which was still one of it's highest chart placements in the world). I remember my local Top-40 station played the song on a heavy rotation and Triple M (a Sydney rock station which I can receive from my location) also played the song regularly. Here are two music logs of those two stations that I posted on Popedia back in April: i98fm (12th April 2018)Triple M (16th April 2018)As you can see, "Zombie" was being played alongside artists such as Demi Lovato, Jess Glynne and Bebe Rexha. Bad Wolves' debut album even managed to chart at #9 on the ARIA Chart and "Zombie" stayed on the Australian iTunes Chart for several months. Yes, it's true that Dolores O'Riordan's untimely death was largely responsible for Bad Wolves' cover experiencing success in the mainstream, but that shouldn't discredit how much of a hit the song was. As brief as it's success was, it made an impact on the charts and the music scene. I'll admit, I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to "Zombie", however I don't mind the song. It has grown on me since it was released back in January last year (and not just because it happens to be a rock song). You're right that there hasn't been a song like "Zombie" that has become a hit since then, however there has been a notable increase in pop releases deploying guitar chords/strings (rather than Trap snares) and pop-rock songs entering into the Top-40 in general. "In My Blood", "Jumpsuit", "Shallow" and "Natural" have all become genuinely successful in their own right. There have been more pop-rock and guitar-orientated songs on the charts within the past 12 months than there have been in years. Here are a few pop releases that are examples of what I am talking about: {Spoiler}
Like I mentioned, there have been plenty of other new pop releases that have deployed guitar strings rather than Trap snares or synths. Can you name this amount of pop-rock/guitar-based songs that were hits in 2016 or 2017?
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Post by Cassie on Feb 11, 2019 11:31:47 GMT 10
In your opinion, which two of these eras bled into each other the most? The mid 2010s and late 2010s. The early 2010s feel more like the late 2000s than the late 2010s or even the mid 2010s, pop culture wise.
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Post by John Titor on Feb 27, 2019 4:16:58 GMT 10
Love this thread
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 27, 2019 22:55:42 GMT 10
In your opinion, which two of these eras bled into each other the most? The mid 2010s and late 2010s. The early 2010s feel more like the late 2000s than the late 2010s or even the mid 2010s, pop culture wise. True
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Post by mwalker96 on Feb 27, 2019 23:04:37 GMT 10
2017 felt pretty late 10s to me especially by the summer of that year with fidget spinners, Youtube new logo, Nintendo Switch being a hot success, etc. Musically 2018 feels like the start of the 10s with 69 coming out and XXX dying.
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Post by mc98 on Feb 28, 2019 0:19:51 GMT 10
2017 felt pretty late 10s to me especially by the summer of that year with fidget spinners, Youtube new logo, Nintendo Switch being a hot success, etc. Musically 2018 feels like the start of the 10s with 69 coming out and XXX dying. As soon as Donald Trump took office in January 2017, the late 2010s officially started. Also, don't forget the rise of Latin pop and Soundcloud/Emo Rap.
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Post by John Titor on Feb 28, 2019 9:02:26 GMT 10
2017 felt pretty late 10s to me especially by the summer of that year with fidget spinners, Youtube new logo, Nintendo Switch being a hot success, etc. Musically 2018 feels like the start of the 10s with 69 coming out and XXX dying. As soon as Donald Trump took office in January 2017, the late 2010s officially started. Also, don't forget the rise of Latin pop and Soundcloud/Emo Rap. I would say it started Nov 2016 when he was elected, that very day the atmosphere was different
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Post by longaotian on Apr 13, 2019 23:32:30 GMT 10
I was just thinking about this earlier and I just realised how quickly the Late 2010s arrived back in Mid September-Early October 2017 it was so sudden. Like yeah for sure there were plenty of late 2010s things showing up ever since mid 2016 like Stranger things, Donald Trump, Nintendo Switch, Riverdale etc.. but all of a sudden in around September Taylor Swift released her new album, Post Malone became huge and "Rockstar" went straight to #1, Cardi B was quickly gaining popularity with "Bodak Yellow" as well as Lil Pump and "Gucci Gang". Imo by October things felt quite different than they did just a few months earlier like even around May.
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Post by mc98 on Apr 14, 2019 5:49:59 GMT 10
I was just thinking about this earlier and I just realised how quickly the Late 2010s arrived back in Mid September-Early October 2017 it was so sudden. Like yeah for sure there were plenty of late 2010s things showing up ever since mid 2016 like Stranger things, Donald Trump, Nintendo Switch, Riverdale etc.. but all of a sudden in around September Taylor Swift released her new album, Post Malone became huge and "Rockstar" went straight to #1, Cardi B was quickly gaining popularity with "Bodak Yellow" as well as Lil Pump and "Gucci Gang". Imo by October things felt quite different than they did just a few months earlier like even around May. Also, Fortnite Battle Royale was released, Stranger Things second season, iPhone X, and Mi Gente.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 14, 2019 8:38:01 GMT 10
I was just thinking about this earlier and I just realised how quickly the Late 2010s arrived back in Mid September-Early October 2017 it was so sudden. Like yeah for sure there were plenty of late 2010s things showing up ever since mid 2016 like Stranger things, Donald Trump, Nintendo Switch, Riverdale etc.. but all of a sudden in around September Taylor Swift released her new album, Post Malone became huge and "Rockstar" went straight to #1, Cardi B was quickly gaining popularity with "Bodak Yellow" as well as Lil Pump and "Gucci Gang". Imo by October things felt quite different than they did just a few months earlier like even around May. It started feeling late to me as soon as Fall 2016 came
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 14, 2019 9:53:20 GMT 10
I was just thinking about this earlier and I just realised how quickly the Late 2010s arrived back in Mid September-Early October 2017 it was so sudden. Like yeah for sure there were plenty of late 2010s things showing up ever since mid 2016 like Stranger things, Donald Trump, Nintendo Switch, Riverdale etc.. but all of a sudden in around September Taylor Swift released her new album, Post Malone became huge and "Rockstar" went straight to #1, Cardi B was quickly gaining popularity with "Bodak Yellow" as well as Lil Pump and "Gucci Gang". Imo by October things felt quite different than they did just a few months earlier like even around May. I can see what you mean in regards to Late 2010s culture starting around September/October 2017, but if i'm being honest, I didn't notice much of a cultural change at the time. Maybe I was just out of the loop. I'm not saying that I disagree with you at all, but i'm not sure if I would really consider Early-Mid 2017 as being apart of the Mid 2010s cultural era, to be honest.
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Post by longaotian on Apr 14, 2019 10:14:42 GMT 10
I was just thinking about this earlier and I just realised how quickly the Late 2010s arrived back in Mid September-Early October 2017 it was so sudden. Like yeah for sure there were plenty of late 2010s things showing up ever since mid 2016 like Stranger things, Donald Trump, Nintendo Switch, Riverdale etc.. but all of a sudden in around September Taylor Swift released her new album, Post Malone became huge and "Rockstar" went straight to #1, Cardi B was quickly gaining popularity with "Bodak Yellow" as well as Lil Pump and "Gucci Gang". Imo by October things felt quite different than they did just a few months earlier like even around May. I can see what you mean in regards to Late 2010s culture starting around September/October 2017, but if i'm being honest, I didn't notice much of a cultural change at the time. Maybe I was just out of the loop. I'm not saying that I disagree with you at all, but i'm not sure if I would really consider Early-Mid 2017 as being apart of the Mid 2010s cultural era, to be honest. Yeah I didn't mean that Early/Mid 2017 was the mid 2010s as such (for example all the things I mentioned above: Trump, Switch etc). The whole late 2016-mid 2017 period was the transition from the mid to late 2010s, but what I meant is that looking back, around September you could really tell the late 2010s were fully here all of a sudden. Thats my opinion at least. 
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Post by Cassie on Apr 14, 2019 16:00:12 GMT 10
I can see what you mean in regards to Late 2010s culture starting around September/October 2017, but if i'm being honest, I didn't notice much of a cultural change at the time. Maybe I was just out of the loop. I'm not saying that I disagree with you at all, but i'm not sure if I would really consider Early-Mid 2017 as being apart of the Mid 2010s cultural era, to be honest. Yeah I didn't mean that Early/Mid 2017 was the mid 2010s as such (for example all the things I mentioned above: Trump, Switch etc). The whole late 2016-mid 2017 period was the transition from the mid to late 2010s, but what I meant is that looking back, around September you could really tell the late 2010s were fully here all of a sudden. Thats my opinion at least. Agreed. By fall 2017 the late 2010s really took over.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 14, 2019 20:51:28 GMT 10
Yeah I didn't mean that Early/Mid 2017 was the mid 2010s as such (for example all the things I mentioned above: Trump, Switch etc). The whole late 2016-mid 2017 period was the transition from the mid to late 2010s, but what I meant is that looking back, around September you could really tell the late 2010s were fully here all of a sudden. Thats my opinion at least. Ah okay, I thought that's what you meant.  It will be interesting to know what will be the point in time in which Early 2020s culture will start to come into full force. I've got an inkling that 2020 will mostly be defined by Late 2010s fads/trends, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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It will be interesting to know what will be the point in time in which Early 2020s culture will start to come into full force. I've got an inkling that 2020 will mostly be defined by Late 2010s fads/trends, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.