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Post by Early2010sGuy on Jan 25, 2021 6:21:57 GMT 10
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Post by nightmarefarm on Oct 28, 2021 0:47:39 GMT 10
Yes. Jan 2015 was very different from December 2015 in many ways. Early 2015 was just generic mid 10s style music, Mid-Late 2015 was when you started hearing stuff that could blend in in the late 10s like "Where are you now" and "Sorry". In Early 2015 7th gen gaming was still in and you had games being made for it and people playing on it. By December 2015 the focus was clearly on 8th gen and you'd be looked down on if you still gamed on 7th gen. Memes were revolutionised by dank memes being mainstream and at the end of the year IIRC you saw the birth of meme formats which were used constantly used throughout the late 10s like hotline bling meme and twitter text memes. Lets not forget trump announcing his presidential bid as well, the legalisation of gay marriage and spotlight on transgenders with Caitlyn Jenner. The aforementioned things which caused widescale political division which persists even to this day.
2015 is arguably the most transitional year of the 10s in hindsight.
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Post by mc98 on Oct 28, 2021 2:45:04 GMT 10
Yeah, 2015 may had some changes throughout the year, but the changes in 2016 were much stronger. The second half of 2015 didn't feel too different from 2014. The most transformational aspect of 2015 were the politics but pop culture and fashion felt very similar to 2014. Spring 2016 is when you could feel the late 2010s coming in imo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 2:30:45 GMT 10
2015 wasn't transitional itself, but it was the year the turd flower that is the early 2020s began to slowly blossom. The seed was planted in the 1980s with Ronald Reagan and Jerry Falwell.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 29, 2021 12:21:24 GMT 10
no not really
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Post by Telso on Oct 29, 2021 20:00:26 GMT 10
2015 was easily one of the most transitional years of the 2010s. It was when pop culture started to transition from the bright, bubbly first half of the '10s into the dark, chill vibe of the second half.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Oct 29, 2021 22:02:27 GMT 10
2015 was easily one of the most transitional years of the 2010s. It was when pop culture started to transition from the bright, bubbly first half of the '10s into the dark, chill vibe of the second half. I agree. I think 2015 was the second most definitive and transitional year of the 2010s behind 2016. I feel like 2015 was the only year where the two halves of the 2010s meet. 2016 was kinda like that too in the beginning but by the end leaned more towards that late 2016-2019 trap/Trump/post-vine era.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 30, 2021 14:10:30 GMT 10
no
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Post by slashpop on Oct 30, 2021 19:14:38 GMT 10
I agree. 2015 was one of the most stagnant 2010s years for pop culture along with 2010 and 2018. 2015 was basically a 2014 part deux from start to finish. 2016 was much more transitional in contrast. I already felt the transition to the late 2010s beginning in spring 2016. There were differences in mid to late 2015 causing spring 2013 to winter/spring 2015, to feel slightly different it definitely wasn't strong enough or an era breakoff but there were some changes making it feel like a minor transition, or a modified year, a beta late 2010s transition, and one that would be clearer in the first half of 2016, which has nothing do with trump. But yes there wasn't this era break off, it felt like the second half of the mid 2010s or the start of the mid to late 2010s, it was a transition but a subtle and slow one, not an strong one or a shift. Changes/modifications in latter 2015 going into 2016, that would be exaggerated in 2016 Subdued fashion style is in full swing Music seemed dryer and more mediocre, pop culture was officially more subdued and less cheesy than late 2013 and 2014 (music, style etc) Hipster started slightly fading and became mixed with yuccie or changed to yuccie for some and much more detached from its original authentic 2010s style Undercuts and manbuns and tattoos were overdone similar to 2016-2018 style, it wasn't as exaggerated or as common in earlier years Netflix and streaming era is in full swing, physical video media is nearly dead (this wasn't the case in 2013- former 2015) Start of visible and growing online media presence of alt right and (richard spencer, millenial woes, milo etc) and pro trump viewpoints on Youtube, it wasn't obscure by late 2015, you could easily search it. I would say there a shift in some point in early to mid 2017, most of 2016 felt like exaggerated version of late 2015 with some new additions, the late 2010s identity was more solidified then in early to mid 2016 but I also didn't remember a breakoff feeling, the shift was felt in early to mid 2017 2017 shift material Trump becoming inaugurated Mid 2010s pop culturally starting to feeling passé Early to mid 2010s optimism and attitude are officially not the same A number of core 2010s hipster looks, not all, are now officially dead or not in style Normalization of mainstream right wing talking points in media, among celebrities etc Severe SJW and alt right clashing New trends like fidget spinners Peak of foodie culture Trans movement has more impact in mainstream culture (schools, media, etc) Nintendo Switch
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Post by slashpop on Oct 31, 2021 15:16:36 GMT 10
There were differences in mid to late 2015 causing spring 2013 to winter/spring 2015, to feel slightly different it definitely wasn't strong enough or an era breakoff but there were some changes making it feel like a minor transition, or a modified year, a beta late 2010s transition, and one that would be clearer in the first half of 2016, which has nothing do with trump. But yes there wasn't this era break off, it felt like the second half of the mid 2010s or the start of the mid to late 2010s, it was a transition but a subtle and slow one, not an strong one or a shift. Changes/modifications in latter 2015 going into 2016, that would be exaggerated in 2016 Subdued fashion style is in full swing Music seemed dryer and more mediocre, pop culture was officially more subdued and less cheesy than late 2013 and 2014 (music, style etc) Hipster started slightly fading and became mixed with yuccie or changed to yuccie for some and much more detached from its original authentic 2010s style Undercuts and manbuns and tattoos were overdone similar to 2016-2018 style, it wasn't as exaggerated or as common in earlier years Netflix and streaming era is in full swing, physical video media is nearly dead (this wasn't the case in 2013- former 2015) Start of visible and growing online media presence of alt right and (richard spencer, millenial woes, milo etc) and pro trump viewpoints on Youtube, it wasn't obscure by late 2015, you could easily search it. I would say there a shift in some point in early to mid 2017, most of 2016 felt like exaggerated version of late 2015 with some new additions, the late 2010s identity was more solidified then in early to mid 2016 but I also didn't remember a breakoff feeling, the shift was felt in early to mid 2017 2017 shift material Trump becoming inaugurated Mid 2010s pop culturally starting to feeling passé Early to mid 2010s optimism and attitude are officially not the same A number of core 2010s hipster looks, not all, are now officially dead or not in style Normalization of mainstream right wing talking points in media, among celebrities etc Severe SJW and alt right clashing New trends like fidget spinners Peak of foodie culture Trans movement has more impact in mainstream culture (schools, media, etc) Nintendo Switch I would include late 2014 along with 2015 through early 2017 as a transition from 2013 through mid 2014 to mid 2017 through early 2019. I think those changes you listed for the second half of 2015 could be traced back to late 2014, but they could be hints or signs at best in late 2014. I think the analog to digital transition and streaming take over was complete by late 2014. Plus the 2014-2015 season was the first full season without Blockbuster. Of course streaming got bigger by late 2015 with Netflix N Chill. Alt Right backlash against liberalism and progressivism took off and became noticeable to me in late 2014. 2015-2017 is a direct consequence of the events that happened in late 2014. Maybe the mid 2010s were the transition from early to late 2010s culture. The mid 2010s seemed transitional. Mid 2013 through mid 2014 leaned early 2010s. Late 2014-Early 2015 was pure mid 2010s. Mid 2015-2016 leaned late 2010s. Your points make sense though. I had another post in late 2014 but they simply weren’t in full effect. Alt right sort of started but was not mainstream or on social media like late 2015. There were still some residue of 12/2013 in late 2014. Very late 2014: Subtle yet noticeable changes and seeds poping up here and there, not in full effect yet. Mid to late 2015: Stronger and more visible changes Second half of 2016: Changes almost in full effect but no real era breakoff End of the start of 2017: Official shift
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Post by slashpop on Oct 31, 2021 16:53:47 GMT 10
I had another post in late 2014 but they simply weren’t in full effect. Alt right sort of started but was not mainstream or on social media like late 2015. There were still some residue of 12/2013 in late 2014. Very late 2014: Subtle yet noticeable changes and seeds poping up here and there, not in full effect yet. Mid to late 2015: Stronger and more visible changes Second half of 2016: Changes almost in full effect but no real era breakoff End of the start of 2017: Official shift Late 2015 was definitely when the Alt Right was in full swing. It’s also when the whole SJW vs Alt Right, liberals vs conservatives war, cancel culture and political correctness blew up, although traces could be found in 2014 or earlier. Many people vocalized their support for Trump. Yet a lot of people were naive in claiming he won’t win in 2016. Trump announced his run in June 2015. Although somewhere online I read he was considering a 2016 presidential run in 2014. Would you say 2015 was a continuation of the changes brewing in 2014 or were the changes foreign to 2014? 2014 for sure had a lot of early 2010s influences, despite being slightly more mid 2010s. I would say changes in mid to late 2015 is mostly a continuation of what first sprung up in very late 2014. 2016 introduced a bit more newer foreign things, and like almost a full effect of earlier changes, but nothing happened over night in 2016, there wasn’t a era break off, even in December 2016 I felt this way. Strange how we’ve been complaining about the death of hipster when it’s been like that for quite sometime.
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Post by slashpop on Oct 31, 2021 19:14:57 GMT 10
I would say changes in mid to late 2015 is mostly a continuation of what first sprung up in very late 2014. 2016 introduced a bit more newer foreign things, and like almost a full effect of earlier changes, but nothing happened over night in 2016, there wasn’t a era break off, even in December 2016 I felt this way. Strange how we’ve been complaining about the death of hipster when it’s been like that for quite sometime. That’s how I view 2015 as well. To be fair, you have a point on 2016. Trump getting elected in November 2016 did not put us in a 100% late 2010s world overnight similar to how the March 2020 lockdowns didn’t put us in a 100% early 2020s world overnight. Most of 2016 was mid 2010s culturally and numerically, but it leaned late 2010s instead of early 2010s. Other than that, 2016 was not that separated or removed from the mid 2010s. I could maybe say the same thing about 2017 to an extent. 2017 still felt core 2010s, despite it being predominantly late 2010s. Early 2017 could potentially be in the last phase of the transitional mid 2010s. I don’t think the core 2010s ended until late 2018. If I’m being honest, 2017 through mid 2018 felt like a watered down mid 2010s pop culturally. Maybe I could possibly throw in mid 2015 through 2016 into that. I totally agree on your earlier post about late 2014 having 2012/2013 influences. I was 16 years old in 11th grade in late 2014. At that time, I remember thinking that many songs could still have easily come out in 2011, maybe 2009 or 2010 and not sound out of place. 2014 leaned early 2010s and 2015 leaned neither imo. Both are mid 2010s cultural years of course. My mind keeps changing on the eras of the 2010s because the 2010s are culturally stagnant and gradual. I find it hard to define the eras because they seem to bleed onto each other. Mid 2010s culture started coming in late 2012, but early 2010s culture persisted through mid 2014. Late 2010s culture started coming in 2015 or 2016, but mid 2010s culture lasted through mid 2018. I feel like spring 2017 just officialized the changes taking places since 14/15. Late 2018 to the present is a just a fading process of that era with incoming culture we are unsure even if there is barely anything.
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