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Post by dudewitdausername on Feb 1, 2021 14:53:24 GMT 10
In 2021, does 2014/2015 seem as dated as 2007/2008 did back then to you? Vine, Hip Hop music from then, etc...
Here's some songs from then to set the mood:
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Post by mc98 on Feb 1, 2021 16:10:00 GMT 10
2014-2015 are noticeably dated in a low-key kind of way. You could tell from this footage of high school students in 2015 that things have indeed changed since then.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 1, 2021 17:47:14 GMT 10
It’s a bit almost dated. I don’t consider 2015-2016 to be dated personally. Maybe 2013-2014 is kinda dated but not entirely, 2012-2013 is dated.
Honestly nothing really sticks out to me from that year, you could say it marked the end of the purest mid 2010s at some point depending how you see it. Winter 2014 or spring or summer 2015 are possibilities.
To me spring and summer 2015 felt different than pure mid 2010s ( early 2013 to early 2015) almost transitional or a less pure version of the mid 2010s.
2014-2015 overall felt like tamer or blander version of 2013-2014 with mostly the same culture but less leftover early 2010s influences and just a few subtle late 2010s incoming aspects mixed in that were a bit more apparent throughout mid 2015 to mid 2016.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 1, 2021 18:46:17 GMT 10
Definitely not, the two aren't comparable. 2007 and 2008 felt noticeably outdated when I was 15/16 years old. There was huge societal change between the late 2000s and the mid 2010s, not just from a pop cultural and technological point of view, but also in regards to social attitudes:
2007/08:
* Pre-political correctness and homophobic attitudes were still prevalent, even among school kids. Special needs kids were called "retards", and "f****t" was tossed around a lot.
* Smartphones weren't around.
* Rock was still popular and on the charts. In fact, many of the biggest hits of 2007/08 were rock songs.
* High-definition and widescreen-TV was only just starting take off. When my Dad bought a Plasma in mid 2007, he sold his analogue TV to a friend of my Mum.
2014/15:
* The LGBTI+ community were openly embraced. My high school started to place "this is an LGBTI+ friendly space" posters on the doors of the health classrooms when I was in Year 8 in 2013. There was a girl in the grade above me who transitioned to a male in 2015 and the school community was fully supportive of her, including the teachers.
* Instagram, Snapchat, Ask.fm etc. were all popular, smartphones and social media had been widespread for a number of years by then.
* Rock was no longer culturally significant. The Top-40 charts weren't as diverse, and the way in which people chose to listen to music had changed too. CDs were dead.
* "Binge-watching" culture was becoming a thing as streaming had started to take off.
If i'm being honest, I feel as though people throw around the "dated" term too easily. 2014 and 2015 are definitely removed from the world of 2021 due to the pandemic alone, but its too soon to actually refer to them as 'dated' IMO. Pop cultural trends and social attitudes really haven't changed all that much over the past 6/7 years. If I wanted to stream a 1080p video on my smartphone back in 2014, I could have done so. They're still very relatable.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 1, 2021 23:16:19 GMT 10
Definitely not, the two aren't comparable. 2007 and 2008 felt noticeably outdated when I was 15/16 years old. There was huge societal change between the late 2000s and the mid 2010s, not just from a pop cultural and technological point of view, but also in regards to social attitudes: 2007/08:* Pre-political correctness and homophobic attitudes were still prevalent, even among school kids. Special needs kids were called "retards", and "f****t" was tossed around a lot. * Smartphones weren't around. * Rock was still popular and on the charts. In fact, many of the biggest hits of 2007/08 were rock songs. * High-definition and widescreen-TV was only just starting take off. When my Dad bought a Plasma in mid 2007, he sold his analogue TV to a friend of my Mum. 2014/15:
* The LGBTI+ community were openly embraced. My high school started to place "this is an LGBTI+ friendly space" posters on the doors of the health classrooms when I was in Year 8 in 2013. There was a girl in the grade above me who transitioned to a male in 2015 and the school community was fully supportive of her, including the teachers. * Instagram, Snapchat, Ask.fm etc. were all popular, smartphones and social media had been widespread for a number of years by then. * Rock was no longer culturally significant. The Top-40 charts weren't as diverse, and the way in which people chose to listen to music had changed too. CDs were dead. * "Binge-watching" culture was becoming a thing as streaming had started to take off. If i'm being honest, I feel as though people throw around the "dated" term too easily. 2014 and 2015 are definitely removed from the world of 2021 due to the pandemic alone, but its too soon to actually refer to them as 'dated' IMO. Pop cultural trends and social attitudes really haven't changed all that much over the past 6/7 years. If I wanted to stream a 1080p video on my smartphone back in 2014, I could have done so. They're still very relatable. I agree. When I think about only parts of 2012-2013 are dated. Late 2009- early or mid 2012 is the first true somewhat dated period but not in a big way. I even hesitate to say mid 2012 and even 2011-2012 to a lesser extent due to number of contributions to the core 2010s identity from then regardless of those periods being early 2010s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 23:41:25 GMT 10
2014-15 seem like another world compared to today. Much more optimistic time and that was probably the peak of Obama-era liberalism. Nobody in 2015 would have believed it if somebody would have told them what would happen to society over the next five years. It's funny how dystopian future movies were so big around that time. Most people thought those kind of stories were just entertainment and not something we were all about to have to live through.
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Post by rainbow on Feb 2, 2021 2:44:07 GMT 10
I definitely think 2014-2015 feels different from today, but to say that it feels as different as 2007 did back then is a bit of a stretch IMO. There was a much bigger difference between 2007-2014 compared to 2014-2021.
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Post by sman12 on Feb 2, 2021 4:22:02 GMT 10
2007 and 2014/2015 are cultural apples and oranges. 2007 was a MySpace, emo, "dumb" phone, "retarded", and standard definition TV quality/Blu-ray world while 2014/2015 was a LGBTQ-inclusive, smartphone, Vine, 1080p HDTV, and man-bun world. Despite us being in a pandemic, 2021 doesn't seem that different from 2014/2015. Trap music was becoming a pop culture mainstay by that time and we still have trap today. HDTVs were widely used by most people back then and are still used right now (despite getting replaced by 4KTVs). LGBTQ+ rights were both accepted back then and now. I could go on, but you all get the idea.
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Post by mc98 on Feb 2, 2021 6:18:16 GMT 10
I agree. When I think about only parts of 2012-2013 are dated. Late 2009- early or mid 2012 is the first true somewhat dated period but not in a big way. I even hesitate to say mid 2012 and even 2011-2012 to a lesser extent due to number of contributions to the core 2010s identity from then regardless of those periods being early 2010s. 2011-2012 school year was responsible for establishing core 2010s trends despite it not being core yet. 2011-2012 leans towards core 2010s influences. 2010-2011 leans towards late 2000s influences. I would say around spring of 2011 is when the atmosphere started to lean towards core 2010s despite not being core 2010s.
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Post by mc98 on Feb 2, 2021 6:33:08 GMT 10
I would say around spring of 2011 is when the atmosphere started to lean towards core 2010s despite not being core 2010s. That makes sense cuz that’s when Game Of Thrones came out & Osama Bin Laden was killed. It's also when Adele took over the music world, dubstep became popular, hipsters becoming mainstream, Minecraft became the hottest game, and EDM festival culture started to take shape.
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Post by kev2000sfan on Feb 2, 2021 6:57:51 GMT 10
Just 2014 and 2015 generally isn't dated in 2021 to me at all. The comparison is a stretch.
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Post by 04born on Feb 2, 2021 7:26:18 GMT 10
2014-2015 are noticeably dated in a low-key kind of way. You could tell from this footage of high school students in 2015 that things have indeed changed since then. yes it definitly feels different than my HS, also the gay couple is so cute
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Post by mc98 on Feb 2, 2021 7:51:39 GMT 10
It's so weird how the 2014-2015 school year had a different vibe and atmosphere than 2016-2017. I do agree that 2013-2014 had a more removed vibe from today.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Feb 2, 2021 10:01:11 GMT 10
Some things are noticeably different from then but I wouldn’t say it’s completely dated yet.
Things that make the 2014-15 school year different from the 2020-21 school year:
- Obama
- No Covid
- Pop culture was leaning millennial
- BLM and other protests were just starting to make headlines and are viewed differently than how they are today (I’ve noticed law enforcement is also viewed a bit differently now by more people)
- ISIS becomes a threat
- Phones had bezels and buttons
- Wired headphones
- Trump not being relevant in politics yet
- Gay marriage is not legal in all states in the US
- SJW culture
- 8th gen gaming
- GTA V was popular
- Politics weren’t completely divided yet
- No TikTok
- Stereotypical 10s fashion and Hipster fashion
- Mumble rap is popular
- Alexa and other smart speakers were not common or didn’t even exist yet (Alexa was released in Nov. 2014 but to a limited supply)
- Vine, kik and Skype were still used
- EDM was popular
- Lots of popular artists today were not around (Billie Eillish, Dababy, Doja Cat, etc.)
- 4K TV was not the standard yet and still fairly new
- MCU is popular (still somewhat popular now but there hasn’t been an MCU movie since 2019)
- Most people still watched cable tv, although streaming was rising
- Quintessential 2010s shows like Game of Thrones, Adventure Time, and The Walking Dead were on air and in their prime (TWD is still going but past its prime)
Things that make the 2014-15 school year similar to the 2020-21 school year:
- Social media apps like Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and somewhat Snapchat are still popular
- Streaming is still (and more) popular
- iPhones and Androids are still popular
- Trap music is popular (although it sounds different now)
- Some stereotypical 2010s fashion is still here (although it’s been dying)
- 8th gen gaming still not old yet (although 9th gen consoles were just released)
- Superhero movies/media are still popular (WW84 and WandaVision)
- BLM protests are still going on
- Artists like Drake, Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande are still popular (although all of those except Ariana are clearly past their prime)
Some things are changing and by the end of this year 2014-15 will be even more distant, but I’d still say some things from 2014-15 are still significant to today
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Post by jaydawg89 on Feb 2, 2021 10:24:56 GMT 10
It depends, technologically, 2007 still felt very recent in 2014/15 (and still kinda does come to think of it).
Politically & pop culturally though, 2007 was pretty different in that regard.
Considering that both years didn't really seem that dated in both of the times being compared, I actually went with 'yes'.
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