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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 21, 2017 8:56:31 GMT 10
If rock music were to make a complete return to the mainstream in the 2020s, would people born in the 90s and Early 2000s be the cohort who would be the main driving force behind such a return? The reason why I ask this, is because people born from the Mid 2000s onwards would never have experienced a time when rock music was a dominant mainstream force. Considering that people are generally a product of their time, it's possible that they may not have the same interest or desire to see rock music make a complete return to the mainstream. It's a scary thought, but it's entirely possible that the only time people born since the Mid 2000s are exposed to rock music, is when their parents are listening to rock music. As a whole, they are simply not exposed to rock music to the same extent as people born prior to the Mid 2000s, especially when you consider how fragmented our popular culture is now.
People born in the 1990s and Early 2000s will be the ones controlling all aspects of pop culture one day and they are the last cohort who remember when rock music was a mainstream force. As more people born prior to the 1990s get older and eventually retire, they won't have the same influence on the direction popular culture heads in. What do you think? Are people born in the 90s and Early 2000s the cohort who will be largely responsible as to whether rock music makes a complete return to the mainstream?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 21, 2017 9:02:59 GMT 10
I think the ones imvolved the most would be late 80s and 90s born would result it the most. Just out of curiosity, since you were born in 2008, what do you think of rock music? Do you like it at all or doesn't it interest you?
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Post by rainbow on Nov 21, 2017 9:05:33 GMT 10
IMO I think anybody who likes rock, in general, could possibly make it mainstream. But I think another music genre will most likely be mainstream next decade IMO
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Post by rainbow on Nov 21, 2017 9:08:17 GMT 10
Question: What was the last year when rock was mainstream?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 21, 2017 9:14:50 GMT 10
Question: What was the last year when rock was mainstream? It's sort of hard to say, because even though 2010 was the last year it was a dominant mainstream genre, these three songs achieved success in 2011 and 2012: In a sense, rock music has never truly disappeared from the mainstream, as indie-rock has been popular this decade. The most recent example of it would be "Feel It Still" by Portugal.
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Post by rainbow on Nov 21, 2017 9:17:28 GMT 10
Question: What was the last year when rock was mainstream? It's sort of hard to say, because even though 2010 was the last year it was a dominant mainstream genre, these three songs achieved success in 2011 and 2012: In a sense, rock music has never truly disappeared from the mainstream, as indie-rock has been popular this decade. The most recent example of it would be "Feel It Still" by Portugal. I think I should have said the last year when rock was popular lol. That's what I meant. And I love that song Feel It Still
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 21, 2017 9:21:10 GMT 10
It's sort of hard to say, because even though 2010 was the last year it was a dominant mainstream genre, these three songs achieved success in 2011 and 2012: In a sense, rock music has never truly disappeared from the mainstream, as indie-rock has been popular this decade. The most recent example of it would be "Feel It Still" by Portugal. I think I should have said the last year when rock was popular lol. That's what I meant. And I love that song Feel It Still Haha.  In the US, I think 2010 was the last year rock music was still popular, although i'm not entirely sure. #Infinity might know a bit more about it.  Here in Australia, 2011 was the last year it was popular.
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Post by #Infinity on Nov 21, 2017 10:23:47 GMT 10
Haha. In the US, I think 2010 was the last year rock music was still popular, although i'm not entirely sure. #Infinity might know a bit more about it. Here in Australia, 2011 was the last year it was popular. Like any trend, rock's decline in the United States was gradual. However, 2010 was really the last year that any real, full-on rock achieved legitimate top 40 success in the United States and wasn't either confined to genre charts or merely pseudo-rock. These were the final 2 full-on rock songs to achieve major success in the United States while rock could still be considered a movement: Peaking at #17, this was the last true rock song to peak within the top 20 and thus qualify as a smash hit and not just a song that managed to mildly pique the interest of the pop crowd. This charted a bit lower, but still made it into the top 40 and also charted pretty well on the Mainstream Top 40. Neon Trees, Nickelback, and OneRepublic all had big hits in 2010 as well, but all of them were at least partially un-rock. That said, you could also make the case for either of these being the last big rock songs in the United States: This is a bit softer and vaguely leans towards an indie sound, but it does still legitimately sound like a rock track that could've been made in the 2000s and isn't Twenty One Pilots/Imagine Dragons-style fake rock. This extremely 2000s-style, legit rock song came completely out of nowhere in mid-2013, well after rock was declared dead as a mainstream movement. In that sense, you could just as well say it's to the 2010s what FireHouse's "I Live My Life For You" was to the 1990s, being a belated moderate hit from a genre that had already been dead for years by that point.
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Post by prodanny288 on Nov 21, 2017 11:13:04 GMT 10
Our current artists can too remember when rock was dominated by the charts, but I don't see any revival of it coming soon.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 21, 2017 11:42:54 GMT 10
Like any trend, rock's decline in the United States was gradual. However, 2010 was really the last year that any real, full-on rock achieved legitimate top 40 success in the United States and wasn't either confined to genre charts or merely pseudo-rock. These were the final 2 full-on rock songs to achieve major success in the United States while rock could still be considered a movement: Peaking at #17, this was the last true rock song to peak within the top 20 and thus qualify as a smash hit and not just a song that managed to mildly pique the interest of the pop crowd. This charted a bit lower, but still made it into the top 40 and also charted pretty well on the Mainstream Top 40. Neon Trees, Nickelback, and OneRepublic all had big hits in 2010 as well, but all of them were at least partially un-rock. That said, you could also make the case for either of these being the last big rock songs in the United States: Interesting, thanks for the post.  Just out of curiosity, was this Lifehouse song a hit in the United States back in 2010? The reason why I ask, is because I don't think I have heard anyone mention it when referring to rock music in the 2010s. It actually reached #30 on our charts and I remember it was quite popular. As for the future of rock music itself, I still think there is a good chance that the genre will become a mainstream force again sometime in the future. I actually believe that the main reason for rock's absence in the 2010s, is purely due to it being in the form of a backlash against the post-grunge of the 2000s. By the time 2010 arrived, Nickelback were really starting to become a "laughing stock" and there was a significant backlash against them. Many people are still interested in rock music, despite it not having much of a presence on the charts. The success of "Still Into You", indie-rock, as well as the greater presence of guitars in this year's pop releases, is proof to suggest that a potential return of rock isn't out of the cards. Although, if there is to be a possible return of rock, it needs to happen at some point within the next five years. Our current artists can too remember when rock was dominated by the charts, but I don't see any revival of it coming soon. I agree. Although, with that said, there has been a greater presence of guitars in pop releases this year, so I guess we can't rule out the possibility that rock may make some sort of return in the next few years.
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Post by #Infinity on Nov 21, 2017 15:06:57 GMT 10
Interesting, thanks for the post. Just out of curiosity, was this Lifehouse song a hit in the United States back in 2010? The reason why I ask, is because I don't think I have heard anyone mention it when referring to rock music in the 2010s. It actually reached #30 on our charts and I remember it was quite popular. It peaked at #50 on the Hot 100 but made it to #25 on the Mainstream Top 40. It sounds vaguely 2010s, due to its prominent use of millennial whoops, but I suppose you can add it to the list of songs that bookended rock and roll's roughly 55-year streak of mainstream dominance in the United States. Well, bands like Nickelback were the main acts to fully crack the mainstream during the 2000s, but the indie rock scene was still going strong. It's just that indie rock has gotten increasingly electronic over the years, to the point that 2010s "post-indie" bands sound more like boybands disguised as artistic rock bands. Actually, even Take That and the Backstreet Boys were more legitimately rock during the 2000s than Twenty One Pilots, Imagine Dragons, and such are now. Well, "Still Into You" was a fluke hit and came out 4 years ago. The only real chance rock has at a legitimate mainstream return is if EDM and trap burn out so badly in the mainstream that they leave a window of opportunity just large enough for a new wave of rock to emerge in the mainstream, speaking to whatever Generation Z is feeling at the time.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 22, 2017 22:52:36 GMT 10
Well, "Still Into You" was a fluke hit and came out 4 years ago. The only real chance rock has at a legitimate mainstream return is if EDM and trap burn out so badly in the mainstream that they leave a window of opportunity just large enough for a new wave of rock to emerge in the mainstream, speaking to whatever Generation Z is feeling at the time. To be honest, I think there is a very real chance of that happening. The Billboard Hot 100 is currently over-saturated with EDM, trap and country songs. If there is to be a backlash against the 2010s, there's a good possibility that it could be in the form of rock making a comeback to the mainstream. The interest in rock is definitely still there, even if the charts suggest otherwise.
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Post by Mibblez on Nov 27, 2017 23:19:18 GMT 10
I think we are slowly making rock more common again, especially in 2017.. There's always been young people who were into it anyway, the comeback to emo lifestyles lately also helps. Also if the 2010s gets most nostalgia from the 90s then the 2020s should be the same which means more 2000s-ish sounding rock music coming back into "mainstream" (even though there are still bands who don't sound all soft and indie that a lot of people are still into)
I heard before that In the states whenever there is a republican president, angst music like rock gets more mainstream. 🤔
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 28, 2017 7:40:05 GMT 10
I think we are slowly making rock more common again, especially in 2017.. There's always been young people who were into it anyway, the comeback to emo lifestyles lately also helps. Also if the 2010s gets most nostalgia from the 90s then the 2020s should be the same which means more 2000s-ish sounding rock music coming back into "mainstream" (even though there are still bands who don't sound all soft and indie that a lot of people are still into) I heard before that In the states whenever there is a republican president, angst music like rock gets more mainstream. 🤔 If 2020s culture is in the form of a "backlash" against this decade, it's quite possible that rock may make a return to the mainstream. I agree that rock is gradually making some sort of a return. There has been a greater presence of guitars in many pop releases this year and several rock albums have topped the Billboard 200, such as an album by Brand New. Even though, it makes you wonder if rock will ever return to the dominance it had between about 1955-2010. The issue is, kids born from about 2007 onwards wouldn't even be able to remember a time when rock music was a major movement. Many kids/teens today are growing up with hip-hop and they are preferring it over rock music. The longer rock music is out of the mainstream, the less chance there is of it ever becoming a major movement like it once was.
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Post by Mibblez on Nov 28, 2017 7:45:36 GMT 10
I think we are slowly making rock more common again, especially in 2017.. There's always been young people who were into it anyway, the comeback to emo lifestyles lately also helps. Also if the 2010s gets most nostalgia from the 90s then the 2020s should be the same which means more 2000s-ish sounding rock music coming back into "mainstream" (even though there are still bands who don't sound all soft and indie that a lot of people are still into) I heard before that In the states whenever there is a republican president, angst music like rock gets more mainstream. 🤔 If 2020s culture is in the form of a "backlash" against this decade, it's quite possible that rock may make a return to the mainstream. I agree that rock is gradually making some sort of a return. There has been a greater presence of guitars in many pop releases this year and several rock albums have topped the Billboard 200, such as an album by Brand New. Even though, it makes you wonder if rock will ever return to the dominance it had between about 1955-2010. The issue is, kids born from about 2007 onwards wouldn't even be able to remember a time when rock music was a major movement. Many kids/teens today are growing up with hip-hop and they are preferring it over rock music. The longer rock music is out of the mainstream, the less chance there is of it ever becoming a major movement like it once was. That's a possibility. I certainly don't mind hip hop being super popular, I just don't think rock will be completly dead. If anything those kids who were born in 2007 and after might have older siblings or parents who played that type of music a lot and over time some may get an interest with the genre. if anything hip hop and rock could be mixed together, there's already been bands that did this like Linkin Park for example. I would love to see the hip hop game get more diverse in there type of music, maybe even making more people who are black get into rock more. As a black persons I would love for more rock to be in the culture.
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In the US, I think 2010 was the last year rock music was still popular, although i'm not entirely sure. 
Here in Australia, 2011 was the last year it was popular. 
Just out of curiosity, was this Lifehouse song a hit in the United States back in 2010? The reason why I ask, is because I don't think I have heard anyone mention it when referring to rock music in the 2010s. It actually reached #30 on our charts and I remember it was quite popular. 
