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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 2:24:20 GMT 10
While the 2013-2014(August 2013 - May 2014) school year leans mid 2010s, I would certainly put it closer to the early 2010s than the late 2010s:
-Electropop residue can be heard in the music landscape.
-Trap/mumble rap were not chart-toppers yet.
-Even the trap from this era leans towards the early 2010s sound instead of late.
-Facebook continued to be used by teens.
-The dank meme culture didn't came to be until 2014/15, memes still lean towards the early 2010s.
-Smartwatches didn't exist yet.
-Vine humor at the time was very Millennial, so early 2010s.
-Smartphones were thicker.
-The overall fashion and aesthetic was dead by 2017.
-Politics was mostly chill and woke culture didn't really make significant impact on society until a few years later.
-DVD/Blu-Rays are still being sold in mass.
-Streaming didn't take over the market just yet, cable TV was still going strong despite it declining.
-Music downloads were still more common than services like Spotify.
-Windows 7 was used by millions of people and weren't obligated to download Windows 8 until W10 was released in 2015.
-Youtube was dominated by Let's Plays instead of the Clickbait-y and Commentary culture of the late 2010s.
-Thousands of gamers still played with Xbox 360 and PS3.
-I dare to say that while Royals was very minimalist, Lorde's singing style had a more soulful flavor like Adele, Lana, and Florence instead of the fake British and whisper-y vocals that many pop singers used in the late 2010s.
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Post by astropoug on May 11, 2021 3:28:55 GMT 10
This one's pretty debatable. Stylistically it is kinda like the late 2010s due to flat design already having taken over, but culturally, politically, and even technologically, it's a bit closer to the early 2010s. No TikTok, no smart speakers, no Apple Watch. We did have 8th gen consoles, but the Xbox One flopped upon launch, and the Wii U didn't even define the late 2010s, the Switch did. Of course, Obama was the president too. This was the last pre-woke school year. Despite the existence of BLM, they wouldn't become prominent until the 2014-2015 year.
IMO this school year is still mid-2010s rather than early or late 2010s though. It's squarely in the Wii U/Windows 8/Vine era. Same goes for 2012-2013 and 2014-2015. In fact this is IMO THE school year of the mid-2010s.
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Post by Cassie on May 11, 2021 3:54:43 GMT 10
Early 2010s probably, 7th generation consoles were the current generation, also pre-Trump and pre-woke, SJW era 2010s.
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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 4:44:32 GMT 10
This one's pretty debatable. Stylistically it is kinda like the late 2010s due to flat design already having taken over, but culturally, politically, and even technologically, it's a bit closer to the early 2010s. No TikTok, no smart speakers, no Apple Watch. We did have 8th gen consoles, but the Xbox One flopped upon launch, and the Wii U didn't even define the late 2010s, the Switch did. Of course, Obama was the president too. This was the last pre-woke school year. Despite the existence of BLM, they wouldn't become prominent until the 2014-2015 year. IMO this school year is still mid-2010s rather than early or late 2010s though. It's squarely in the Wii U/Windows 8/Vine era. Same goes for 2012-2013 and 2014-2015. In fact this is IMO THE school year of the mid-2010s. 2013-2014 is probably the latest period to feel genuinely dated. You can look at most things from this era and say “Things truly have changed huh?” I always thought 2012-2013 leaned more early 2010s, it feels almost identical to 2011-12 with some upgrades. Vine didn’t exist in late 2012 and only blew up at the very end of the school year. Additionally, iPhones were still skeuomorphic. I will say it does have a decent connection with late 2013 - 2014. From mid 2015-2016 not so much.
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Post by dudewitdausername on May 11, 2021 5:46:11 GMT 10
This one's pretty debatable. Stylistically it is kinda like the late 2010s due to flat design already having taken over, but culturally, politically, and even technologically, it's a bit closer to the early 2010s. No TikTok, no smart speakers, no Apple Watch. We did have 8th gen consoles, but the Xbox One flopped upon launch, and the Wii U didn't even define the late 2010s, the Switch did. Of course, Obama was the president too. This was the last pre-woke school year. Despite the existence of BLM, they wouldn't become prominent until the 2014-2015 year. IMO this school year is still mid-2010s rather than early or late 2010s though. It's squarely in the Wii U/Windows 8/Vine era. Same goes for 2012-2013 and 2014-2015. In fact this is IMO THE school year of the mid-2010s. Tik Tok isn't a late 2010s thing. It came out in late 2018 and blew up in 2019. It's now a pop cultural force in 2021. It's an early 2020s thing. But yeah, 2013 and 2014 are definitely more like the Early 2010s. 2013 actually IS part of the early 2010s until about the summer of that year, so.
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Post by rainbow on May 11, 2021 6:46:55 GMT 10
This one's pretty debatable. Stylistically it is kinda like the late 2010s due to flat design already having taken over, but culturally, politically, and even technologically, it's a bit closer to the early 2010s. No TikTok, no smart speakers, no Apple Watch. We did have 8th gen consoles, but the Xbox One flopped upon launch, and the Wii U didn't even define the late 2010s, the Switch did. Of course, Obama was the president too. This was the last pre-woke school year. Despite the existence of BLM, they wouldn't become prominent until the 2014-2015 year. IMO this school year is still mid-2010s rather than early or late 2010s though. It's squarely in the Wii U/Windows 8/Vine era. Same goes for 2012-2013 and 2014-2015. In fact this is IMO THE school year of the mid-2010s. Tik Tok isn't a late 2010s thing. It came out in late 2018 and blew up in 2019. It's now a pop cultural force in 2021. It's an early 2020s thing. But yeah, 2013 and 2014 are definitely more like the Early 2010s. 2013 actually IS part of the early 2010s until about the summer of that year, so. TikTok is both a late 2010’s and early 2020’s thing.
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Post by astropoug on May 11, 2021 6:57:57 GMT 10
This one's pretty debatable. Stylistically it is kinda like the late 2010s due to flat design already having taken over, but culturally, politically, and even technologically, it's a bit closer to the early 2010s. No TikTok, no smart speakers, no Apple Watch. We did have 8th gen consoles, but the Xbox One flopped upon launch, and the Wii U didn't even define the late 2010s, the Switch did. Of course, Obama was the president too. This was the last pre-woke school year. Despite the existence of BLM, they wouldn't become prominent until the 2014-2015 year. IMO this school year is still mid-2010s rather than early or late 2010s though. It's squarely in the Wii U/Windows 8/Vine era. Same goes for 2012-2013 and 2014-2015. In fact this is IMO THE school year of the mid-2010s. Tik Tok isn't a late 2010s thing. It came out in late 2018 and blew up in 2019. It's now a pop cultural force in 2021. It's an early 2020s thing. But yeah, 2013 and 2014 are definitely more like the Early 2010s. 2013 actually IS part of the early 2010s until about the summer of that year, so. I remember people were talking about TikTok all the way back when it launched though. And Vine didn't launch until January 2013. I'd say it definitely blew up around then, with the 2013-2014 school year being when it REALLY blew up, but, wait, isn't that the year we're debating anyway? The one where Vine WAS fucking massive? Whatever, Vine isn't even around anymore, and is squarely a product of the mid-2010s. Technologically, there were no smart speakers, and smartwatches hadn't taken off yet. I remember around this time, people said watches died because of smartphones, but this is a statement that could only be made during the era after cell phones blew up, but before smartwatches came out. So basically, between roughly 2004-2005, and 2013-2014 is when people could say this.
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Post by astropoug on May 11, 2021 6:59:47 GMT 10
Tik Tok isn't a late 2010s thing. It came out in late 2018 and blew up in 2019. It's now a pop cultural force in 2021. It's an early 2020s thing. But yeah, 2013 and 2014 are definitely more like the Early 2010s. 2013 actually IS part of the early 2010s until about the summer of that year, so. TikTok is both a late 2010’s and early 2020’s thing. Exactly, at least at my school people were talking about it shortly after launch. I remember hearing about it A LOT in 2019, well before the pandemic. I still don't get where people get this idea it blew up after COVID, video calling services like Zoom did, but TikTok was popular and inescapable well before that.
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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 8:26:09 GMT 10
Tik Tok isn't a late 2010s thing. It came out in late 2018 and blew up in 2019. It's now a pop cultural force in 2021. It's an early 2020s thing. But yeah, 2013 and 2014 are definitely more like the Early 2010s. 2013 actually IS part of the early 2010s until about the summer of that year, so. I remember people were talking about TikTok all the way back when it launched though. And Vine didn't launch until January 2013. I'd say it definitely blew up around then, with the 2013-2014 school year being when it REALLY blew up, but, wait, isn't that the year we're debating anyway? The one where Vine WAS fucking massive? Whatever, Vine isn't even around anymore, and is squarely a product of the mid-2010s. Technologically, there were no smart speakers, and smartwatches hadn't taken off yet. I remember around this time, people said watches died because of smartphones, but this is a statement that could only be made during the era after cell phones blew up, but before smartwatches came out. So basically, between roughly 2004-2005, and 2013-2014 is when people could say this. Vine started to blow up around June/July 2013. It was released in Jan. 2013 but it didn't became popular overnight. The early part of 2013 for the most part still had 2011-2012 vibes.
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Post by astropoug on May 11, 2021 8:30:42 GMT 10
I remember things started to feel hella different during the 2012-2013 school year honestly. 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 school years are fairly similar. Even the 2009-2010 school year has some similarities. But 2012-2013 feels a lot more drastic. Windows 8, Vine, YouTube One layout, Wii U, Teen Titans Go. It was like the start of modern culture kinda.
And remember, 2011 is the core year of the early 2010s.
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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 8:44:10 GMT 10
I remember things started to feel hella different during the 2012-2013 school year honestly. 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 school years are fairly similar. Even the 2009-2010 school year has some similarities. But 2012-2013 feels a lot more drastic. Windows 8, Vine, YouTube One layout, Wii U, Teen Titans Go. It was like the start of modern culture kinda. And remember, 2011 is the core year of the early 2010s. Wii U was a failure honestly. Not really a gamechanger since it was only a modified version of the original Wii. The PS4 and Xbox One released in late 2013 was more significant and eventful.
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Post by astropoug on May 11, 2021 9:03:27 GMT 10
I remember things started to feel hella different during the 2012-2013 school year honestly. 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 school years are fairly similar. Even the 2009-2010 school year has some similarities. But 2012-2013 feels a lot more drastic. Windows 8, Vine, YouTube One layout, Wii U, Teen Titans Go. It was like the start of modern culture kinda. And remember, 2011 is the core year of the early 2010s. Wii U was a failure honestly. Not really a gamechanger since it was only a modified version of the original Wii. The PS4 and Xbox One released in late 2013 was more significant and eventful. Yeah but I'm just saying the vibe was different Also if the Wii U failed that wouldn't disprove my point. Let me remind you not long before the Wii U came out, we expected everything Nintendo made to become massively successful, like the Wii and Nintendo DS. The fact the Wii U failed and Nintendo's reputation was shifting was a huge shift in its own right between the late 2000s/very early 2010s, and the mid-2010s when the Wii U was around. And don't pretend the Wii U had no impact. So many of the Switch's games are Wii U rereleases, and so many people reminisced about Miiverse online.
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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 9:12:49 GMT 10
Wii U was a failure honestly. Not really a gamechanger since it was only a modified version of the original Wii. The PS4 and Xbox One released in late 2013 was more significant and eventful. Yeah but I'm just saying the vibe was different Also if the Wii U failed that wouldn't disprove my point. Let me remind you not long before the Wii U came out, we expected everything Nintendo made to become massively successful, like the Wii and Nintendo DS. The fact the Wii U failed and Nintendo's reputation was shifting was a huge shift in its own right between the late 2000s/very early 2010s, and the mid-2010s when the Wii U was around. And don't pretend the Wii U had no impact. So many of the Switch's games are Wii U rereleases, and so many people reminisced about Miiverse online. I believe the real change was in 2013-2014 when the iPhone changed it's look and the new consoles released in November 2013, it felt like we were in a brand new era. The 2012-2013 school year had some changes but it still felt very similar to 2010-2011 and 2011-2012.
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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 11:57:45 GMT 10
I remember things started to feel hella different during the 2012-2013 school year honestly. 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 school years are fairly similar. Even the 2009-2010 school year has some similarities. But 2012-2013 feels a lot more drastic. Windows 8, Vine, YouTube One layout, Wii U, Teen Titans Go. It was like the start of modern culture kinda. And remember, 2011 is the core year of the early 2010s. I agree. 2011 was peak and quintessential early 2010s. 2011-2012 was the last time late 2000s influences lingered. It felt closer to 2010-2011 than 2012-2013. 2012-2013 was when late 2000s influences were dead. The transition from early 2010s to mid 2010s began and we were in the core 2010s by Q4 2012-2013. I remember the fashion changed and hipster became more noticeable. Plus smartphones, tablets and touch screen technology became necessities instead of luxuries. Instagram and Twitter blew up in 2012-2013. You’re right that 2012-2013 was the start of modern culture. Heck we’re still influenced by that time period now in 2021. But touchscreens were already becoming a necessity in 2011-2012. Twitter blew up in 2010 and Instagram blew up in early 2012. Hipster fashion was becoming noticeable in 2011-2012. Modern culture today dates all the way back to the mid 2000s. I still don't get how people think 2012-2013 was a big change when all of that was slowly building up in 2011-2012, even 2010-2011 for that matter.
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Post by mc98 on May 11, 2021 12:11:55 GMT 10
But touchscreen was becoming a necessity in 2011-2012. Twitter blew up in 2010 and Instagram blew up in early 2012. Fashion such as hipster was becoming noticeable in 2011-2012. Trust me, I was there when that happened. Modern culture today dates all the way back to the mid 2000s. I still don't get how people think 2012-2013 was a big change when all of that was slowly building up in 2010-2011. I was there too. I never said touchscreen wasn’t becoming popular in 2010-2011 or 2011-2012. It was gaining steam. I don’t think touchscreen blew up until 2012-2013. I noticed all that more in 2012-2013. In 2012-2013, those aspects became more “in your face” compared to earlier. I’m not saying 2012-2013 was a drastic change from 2011-2012. I’m saying that 2012-2013 was the start of the core 2010s and the transition from early to mid 2010s. The early 2010s peaked in 2010-2011 and 2011-2012, but it no longer peaked by 2012-2013. Early 2010s culture became watered down, stale, long in the tooth or burnt out by 2012-2013. I even said that 2012 leaned early 2010s and 2013 leaned mid 2010s. Yeah, I would say it's more ubiquitous in 2012-2013. The transition between the early and mid 2010s was kinda blurry and no clear lines to know when it exactly started. Like I said, modern culture can be traced back to the mid 2000s. We are still watching Youtube as it was in 2006 and we are still taking selfies as it was in MySpace in 2005.
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