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Post by John Titor on Oct 19, 2021 2:52:52 GMT 10
You could feel it in late August like it felt like a weight was lifted I bet it was so much sigh and relief that the mid 1990s grunge era was over. Ironically I could sense the "weight lifted off the shoulder" feel in 2008 and 2019. Yupp pretty much but more optimistic, I remember Final Fantasy 7 commercials were on tv every 5 min, literally the United States had Playstation fever and Nintendo never recovered the remainder of the 90s lol. Had it not been for Pokemon being a hit Nintendo would be down bad.
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Post by John Titor on Oct 19, 2021 9:22:19 GMT 10
Yupp pretty much but more optimistic, I remember Final Fantasy 7 commercials were on tv every 5 min, literally the United States had Playstation fever and Nintendo never recovered the remainder of the 90s lol. Had it not been for Pokemon being a hit Nintendo would be down bad. I was into the Pokemon cartoon shows. My mom got me a Pikachu stuffed animal in the late 1990s, 1998 or 1999. Seems kind of sad how Pokemon was the saving grace of Nintendo. I bet Playstation 1 was all the rage during the late 1990s.
1992 - Sega Genesis
1993 - Sega Genesis
1994 - Sega genesis until Fall 1994 then SNES smoked them with Donkey Kong Country ( everyone started getting DK mania)
1995 - SNES ( Saturn was a botched launch and no one was talking about ps1 at the end of the year)
1996 - Nintendo 64 ( everyone was hyped about Super Mario 64 and Star Wars...like EVERYONE and their dog)
1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now this is where it get's interesting, N64 was riding on this hype until about August 97 and PS1 smoked them so bad it's
not even funny, these 3 TV ads aired on TV every 6 min when there was an ad break ( and yes the commercials helped perception)
Let me just remind you again.. LOL these ads were airing aggressively every commercial break on every TV channel.
The tide shifted and PS became a house hold name after this, ask anyone that was around then that got a PS1 and they will tell you
Final Fantasy 7 made them buy the system. Nintendo had almost no commercials airing during this time. Maybe Goldeneye thats it.
They could not compete... it was a wrap for Nintendo for the rest of the 97-98 school year. Pokemon came out Fall 98 and did save
Nintendo, let me repeat the Pokemon franchise SAVED Nintendo lol
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Post by John Titor on Oct 19, 2021 11:18:20 GMT 10
It was, so like this is the timeline of what system was considered the best /cool at the time in the 90s until 97 via chatter in the class room
1992 - Sega Genesis
1993 - Sega Genesis
1994 - Sega genesis until Fall 1994 then SNES smoked them with Donkey Kong Country ( everyone started getting DK mania)
1995 - SNES ( Saturn was a botched launch and no one was talking about ps1 at the end of the year)
1996 - Nintendo 64 ( everyone was hyped about Super Mario 64 and Star Wars...like EVERYONE and their dog)
1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now this is where it get's interesting, N64 was riding on this hype until about August 97 and PS1 smoked them so bad it's
not even funny, these 3 TV ads aired on TV every 6 min when there was an ad break ( and yes the commercials helped perception)
Let me just remind you again.. LOL these ads were airing aggressively every commercial break on every TV channel.
The tide shifted and PS became a house hold name after this, ask anyone that was around then that got a PS1 and they will tell you
Final Fantasy 7 made them buy the system. Nintendo had almost no commercials airing during this time. Maybe Goldeneye thats it.
They could not compete... it was a wrap for Nintendo for the rest of the 97-98 school year. Pokemon came out Fall 98 and did save
Nintendo, let me repeat the Pokemon franchise SAVED Nintendo lol
Wow that's interesting lol. Wow the PS1 really used TV as an advantage for more sales. It seems as if by late 1997, PS1 became the powerhouse it did. I think you inspired me with an idea for a thread to create. 100% Playstation was apple levels of cool in 1997. Yes Nintendo 64 had some cool games after 97 like Banjo Kazooie, Zelda Ocarina of time & Smash Bros but thats about it really lol. SONY DECIMATED Nintendo in the 5th gen console war, I mean DECIMATED.
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Post by slashpop on Oct 19, 2021 15:42:12 GMT 10
Wow that's interesting lol. Wow the PS1 really used TV as an advantage for more sales. It seems as if by late 1997, PS1 became the powerhouse it did. I think you inspired me with an idea for a thread to create. 100% Playstation was apple levels of cool in 1997. Yes Nintendo 64 had some cool games after 97 like Banjo Kazooie, Zelda Ocarina of time & Smash Bros but thats about it really lol. SONY DECIMATED Nintendo in the 5th gen console war, I mean DECIMATED. I’m not sure if those 1997-2000 PS1 games have aged well outside of final fantasy and a few titles despite being better than n64 at the time . Last time I tried to play tomb raider 1 and crash 2 it felt hard to enjoy. Im kind of sucker for the big box games with weird concepts from 1995-1996 like loaded and po’ed. Also Japanese imports from 1994-1995 like motor toon Grand Prix from 1994:
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Post by slashpop on Oct 20, 2021 19:52:34 GMT 10
I was into the Pokemon cartoon shows. My mom got me a Pikachu stuffed animal in the late 1990s, 1998 or 1999. Seems kind of sad how Pokemon was the saving grace of Nintendo. I bet Playstation 1 was all the rage during the late 1990s.
1992 - Sega Genesis
1993 - Sega Genesis
1994 - Sega genesis until Fall 1994 then SNES smoked them with Donkey Kong Country ( everyone started getting DK mania)
1995 - SNES ( Saturn was a botched launch and no one was talking about ps1 at the end of the year)
1996 - Nintendo 64 ( everyone was hyped about Super Mario 64 and Star Wars...like EVERYONE and their dog)
1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now this is where it get's interesting, N64 was riding on this hype until about August 97 and PS1 smoked them so bad it's
not even funny, these 3 TV ads aired on TV every 6 min when there was an ad break ( and yes the commercials helped perception)
In Order of Importance (left some consoles like CDI and neo geo cd, it becomes too much and they aren't that relevant) 1973 to 1984: Atari era 1983/1984: Video game crash of 1983 - Atari and Atari style gaming is hanging throughout the period but dying and phasing out 1984/1985: Commodore 64 then Apple II/PC/Other computer formats 1985/1986: Commodore 64 then Nes then Apple II/PC then Atari ST/Amiga 1986/1987: Nes then Commodore 64 then Sega Master System then Amiga 1988/1987: Nes then Sega Master System split with Commodore 64/Amiga 1988/1989: Nes then Amiga/Atari ST then Commodore 64/PC/Sega Master 1989/1990: Nes then Genesis/Turbografx 16 then Gameboy then Amiga/PC 1990/1991 :Genesis then Nes (almost split) then Gameboy then Amiga//Turbo Grafx 16/Neo Geo then PC 1991/1992: Genesis then Nes/Snes then PC/Gameboy then Amiga/Turbo Grafx 16 then Neo Geo 1992/1993: Genesis then Snes/PC then Amiga/Neo Geo then Nes 1993/1994: Genesis and Snes Split then PC/Gameboy then Nes 1994/1995: Super Nintendo then Genesis/PC then 3DO 1995/1996: Super Nintendo then PC/Playstation/Genesis then Sega Saturn 1996/1997: N64 and Super Nintendo split then PlayStation/PC then Sega Saturn then Genesis 1997/1998: Playstation then N64 (almost split) then PC then Gameboy Pocket/Sega Saturn 1998/1999: Playstation then N64 then Gameboy Pocket and Color/PC 1999/2000: Playstation and Dreamcast split then N64/Gameboy Color then PC
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Post by John Titor on Oct 21, 2021 2:02:10 GMT 10
100% Playstation was apple levels of cool in 1997. Yes Nintendo 64 had some cool games after 97 like Banjo Kazooie, Zelda Ocarina of time & Smash Bros but thats about it really lol. SONY DECIMATED Nintendo in the 5th gen console war, I mean DECIMATED. I’m not sure if those 1997-2000 PS1 games have aged well outside of final fantasy and a few titles despite being better than n64 at the time . Last time I tried to play tomb raider 1 and crash 2 it felt hard to enjoy. Im kind of sucker for the big box games with weird concepts from 1995-1996 like loaded and po’ed. Also Japanese imports from 1994-1995 like motor toon Grand Prix from 1994: In retrospect those ps1 games play like ass aside from Tekken and Crash, FF, but at the time we didn't mind lol
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Post by John Titor on Nov 1, 2021 4:06:30 GMT 10
I really liked the soft rebrand of Sonic in 97 lol, Sega just added green eyes when Dreamcast came out.
I remember seeing these designs when Saturn was out, it was used to sell Sonic R. 
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Post by astropoug on Apr 17, 2022 12:04:22 GMT 10
I was into the Pokemon cartoon shows. My mom got me a Pikachu stuffed animal in the late 1990s, 1998 or 1999. Seems kind of sad how Pokemon was the saving grace of Nintendo. I bet Playstation 1 was all the rage during the late 1990s.
1992 - Sega Genesis
1993 - Sega Genesis
1994 - Sega genesis until Fall 1994 then SNES smoked them with Donkey Kong Country ( everyone started getting DK mania)
1995 - SNES ( Saturn was a botched launch and no one was talking about ps1 at the end of the year)
1996 - Nintendo 64 ( everyone was hyped about Super Mario 64 and Star Wars...like EVERYONE and their dog)
1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now this is where it get's interesting, N64 was riding on this hype until about August 97 and PS1 smoked them so bad it's
not even funny, these 3 TV ads aired on TV every 6 min when there was an ad break ( and yes the commercials helped perception)
Let me just remind you again.. LOL these ads were airing aggressively every commercial break on every TV channel.
The tide shifted and PS became a house hold name after this, ask anyone that was around then that got a PS1 and they will tell you
Final Fantasy 7 made them buy the system. Nintendo had almost no commercials airing during this time. Maybe Goldeneye thats it.
They could not compete... it was a wrap for Nintendo for the rest of the 97-98 school year. Pokemon came out Fall 98 and did save
Nintendo, let me repeat the Pokemon franchise SAVED Nintendo lol
The Tomb Raider 2 ad still has that grungy shaky aesthetic of the mid 90s. I guess it wasn't completely gone in 1997, even though I find 1997 to be a very lighthearted and futuristic kind of year.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 17, 2022 12:43:01 GMT 10
It was, so like this is the timeline of what system was considered the best /cool at the time in the 90s until 97 via chatter in the class room
1992 - Sega Genesis
1993 - Sega Genesis
1994 - Sega genesis until Fall 1994 then SNES smoked them with Donkey Kong Country ( everyone started getting DK mania)
1995 - SNES ( Saturn was a botched launch and no one was talking about ps1 at the end of the year)
1996 - Nintendo 64 ( everyone was hyped about Super Mario 64 and Star Wars...like EVERYONE and their dog)
1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now this is where it get's interesting, N64 was riding on this hype until about August 97 and PS1 smoked them so bad it's
not even funny, these 3 TV ads aired on TV every 6 min when there was an ad break ( and yes the commercials helped perception)
Let me just remind you again.. LOL these ads were airing aggressively every commercial break on every TV channel.
The tide shifted and PS became a house hold name after this, ask anyone that was around then that got a PS1 and they will tell you
Final Fantasy 7 made them buy the system. Nintendo had almost no commercials airing during this time. Maybe Goldeneye thats it.
They could not compete... it was a wrap for Nintendo for the rest of the 97-98 school year. Pokemon came out Fall 98 and did save
Nintendo, let me repeat the Pokemon franchise SAVED Nintendo lol
The Tomb Raider 2 ad still has that grungy shaky aesthetic of the mid 90s. I guess it wasn't completely gone in 1997, even though I find 1997 to be a very lighthearted and futuristic kind of year. yeah some commercial typefaces didn't get the memo at the time but it was easy to overlook
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Post by astropoug on Apr 17, 2022 12:55:43 GMT 10
The Tomb Raider 2 ad still has that grungy shaky aesthetic of the mid 90s. I guess it wasn't completely gone in 1997, even though I find 1997 to be a very lighthearted and futuristic kind of year. yeah some commercial typefaces didn't get the memo at the time but it was easy to overlook Those sorts of aesthetics really didn't fit the vibe of the year at all. 1997 is up there as one of the most futuristic years of all time. So many sci-fi movies from that year: Event Horizon, Gattaca, Starship Troopers, Men In Black, The Fifth Element, Contact, Cube. If you're a weeb, you also know this year for the release of End of Evangelion. And aesthetics were changing to match this new vibe as well. Instead of the earth tones, long hair, and grungy, distorted fonts of the mid-90s, it was all about futuristic chrome aesthetics, robotic sounding voices, white backgrounds, colorful and blobby electronics, and objects flying around.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 17, 2022 12:57:30 GMT 10
yeah some commercial typefaces didn't get the memo at the time but it was easy to overlook Those sorts of aesthetics really didn't fit the vibe of the year at all. 1997 is up there as one of the most futuristic years of all time. So many sci-fi movies from that year: Event Horizon, Gattaca, Starship Troopers, Men In Black, The Fifth Element And aesthetics were changing to match this new vibe as well. Instead of the earth tones, long hair, and grungy, distorted fonts of the mid-90s, it was all about futuristic chrome aesthetics, robotic sounding voices, white backgrounds, colorful and blobby electronics, and objects flying around. The music video is a grunge gen X Vs 1997 early y2k wet dream lol, when it came out you could tell aesthetics was clashing
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Post by astropoug on Apr 17, 2022 12:59:21 GMT 10
Those sorts of aesthetics really didn't fit the vibe of the year at all. 1997 is up there as one of the most futuristic years of all time. So many sci-fi movies from that year: Event Horizon, Gattaca, Starship Troopers, Men In Black, The Fifth Element And aesthetics were changing to match this new vibe as well. Instead of the earth tones, long hair, and grungy, distorted fonts of the mid-90s, it was all about futuristic chrome aesthetics, robotic sounding voices, white backgrounds, colorful and blobby electronics, and objects flying around. The music video is a grunge gen X Vs 1997 early y2k wet dream lol, when it came out you could tell aesthetics was clashing Probably the last year long hair was cool before short hair took over. And it would remain that way until emo came in the mid 2000s. That's one major difference between the Gen X 90s and millennial 90s, the hair.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 17, 2022 13:04:46 GMT 10
The music video is a grunge gen X Vs 1997 early y2k wet dream lol, when it came out you could tell aesthetics was clashing Probably the last year long hair was cool before short hair took over. And it would remain that way until emo came in the mid 2000s. That's one major difference between the Gen X 90s and millennial 90s, the hair. In that video there are so many music video stylings that clash, from the early 90s gears to the blue and white scene where everything looks like a mid 90s warehouse to the late 90s flashy colors and bright huges and y2k sunglasses it's crazy lol But yeah 97 was def the last year long hair on a guy could get a pass, by 98 forget it
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Post by astropoug on Apr 17, 2022 13:08:18 GMT 10
Side note but speaking of the millennial 90s, I'd say Independence Day was really the movie that really set up the vibe for it. Sci-fi, alien, and disaster films became way more popular following the release of that film. Things were becoming more high-concept, futuristic, and experimental (culminating in 1999 with The Matrix).
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Post by astropoug on Apr 17, 2022 13:09:10 GMT 10
Probably the last year long hair was cool before short hair took over. And it would remain that way until emo came in the mid 2000s. That's one major difference between the Gen X 90s and millennial 90s, the hair. In that video there are so many music video stylings that clash, from the early 90s gears to the blue and white scene where everything looks like a mid 90s warehouse to the late 90s flashy colors and bright huges and y2k sunglasses it's crazy lol But yeah 97 was def the last year long hair on a guy could get a pass, by 98 forget it I think the best way to describe the music video is just to say that its 90s.
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