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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 28, 2017 8:53:21 GMT 10
I'm not sure if anyone else feels the same way, but considering that most of the '90s are well over 20 years old, it's surprising how modern and fresh a lot of '90s pop culture still feels. I wonder why this is the case? Disco would have seemed incredibly outdated in the '90s and I remember the '80s felt distinctively removed from the present time during the 2000s. I mean, I think it's incredible that songs such as "Dammit" by Blink-182 and "Bitter Sweet Symphony" by The Verve are twenty years old. They just don't sound that old.
What are your thoughts on this? Do the '90s still seem modern to you?
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Post by longaotian on Nov 29, 2017 6:10:20 GMT 10
Early 90s - Ancient
Mid 90s - Quite old
Late 90s - Somewhat modern
I would say 1994 and before is definitely old now - not modern at all.
Tbh I think some parts of 1996-1997/8 still have a somewhat modern feel, I mean yeah they're old becasue it was like 20 years ago but like you mentioned - I can't imagine the late 70s being somehwat modern during that time becasue there so vastly different.
1998/1999 however still look modern in a lot of aspects, I think it's because the general aesthetic of the time was quite different to the rest of the 90s simply for being part of the Y2K era also the music was very different to previous years
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 30, 2017 22:29:17 GMT 10
Early 90s - Ancient Mid 90s - Quite old Late 90s - Somewhat modern I would say 1994 and before is definitely old now - not modern at all. Tbh I think some parts of 1996-1997/8 still have a somewhat modern feel, I mean yeah they're old becasue it was like 20 years ago but like you mentioned - I can't imagine the late 70s being somehwat modern during that time becasue there so vastly different. 1998/1999 however still look modern in a lot of aspects, I think it's because the general aesthetic of the time was quite different to the rest of the 90s simply for being part of the Y2K era also the music was very different to previous years In the grand scheme of things, I personally wouldn't consider the Early '90s to be ancient, however I agree that they are definitely dated and have very little relevance today. I agree with your other points. 
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Post by Skitty on Nov 30, 2017 22:39:52 GMT 10
Early 90s - Ancient
Mid 90s - Very Old
Late 90s - Sprinkles of modernity
They are only a little bit modern after 1997
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 6:37:13 GMT 10
1990-1994: Retro
1995-1996: Almost retro
1997-1998: Has slight modern aspects, but still very old
1999: Definitely old and dated, but it still has some modern aspects, definitely more than the previous two years.
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Post by rainbow on Dec 27, 2017 13:08:01 GMT 10
I was actually watching a video from 1990 and it was like looking into another world. Everything about the video was dated. The fashion, the cars, the technology, even how people acted. Then I watched one from 1999 and 2000 and they were definitely dated, but nowhere on the same level as 1990. The fashion still feels kind of connected to today. Some of it still wouldn't be out of place if worn today. Can't really say the same thing with 1990. Hell, even some of the cars that I saw in the videos from 1999 and 2000 I still see on the road today.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 27, 2017 13:20:46 GMT 10
I was actually watching a video from 1990 and it was like looking into another world. Everything about the video was dated. The fashion, the cars, the technology, even how people acted. Then I watched one from 1999 and 2000 and they were definitely dated, but nowhere on the same level as 1990. The fashion still feels kind of connected to today. Some of it still wouldn't be out of place if worn today. Can't really say the same thing with 1990. Hell, even some of the cars that I saw in the videos from 1999 and 2000 I still see on the road today. I agree. 1990 really intrigues me, namely because of how relatively close it is too my birth year, yet it's so drastically different. It was still truly a pre-digital world, for the most part. When you compare 2017 with 2008, the latter doesn't feel like a completely different world. Smartphones may not have been widely available in 2008 and the music scene was quite different, but the year still feels connected to the present day in several other aspects. 1990 would have felt incredibly outdated, even in 1999! 
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Post by rainbow on Dec 27, 2017 13:28:24 GMT 10
I was actually watching a video from 1990 and it was like looking into another world. Everything about the video was dated. The fashion, the cars, the technology, even how people acted. Then I watched one from 1999 and 2000 and they were definitely dated, but nowhere on the same level as 1990. The fashion still feels kind of connected to today. Some of it still wouldn't be out of place if worn today. Can't really say the same thing with 1990. Hell, even some of the cars that I saw in the videos from 1999 and 2000 I still see on the road today. I agree. 1990 really intrigues me, namely because of how relatively close it is too my birth year, yet it's so drastically different. It was still truly a pre-digital world, for the most part. When you compare 2017 with 2008, the latter doesn't feel like a completely different world. Smartphones may not have been widely available in 2008 and the music scene was quite different, but the year still feels connected to the present day in several other aspects. 1990 would have felt incredibly outdated, even in 1999! :-S 1990 was like the 80's in everything but name alone. Even the fashion from 2000 would still fit in with 2009 and nobody would stare are you weirdly, but imagine seeing someone wearing fashion from 1990 in 1999, which was still heavily 80's. You would probably be seen as unhip.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 27, 2017 13:40:01 GMT 10
1990 was like the 80's in everything but name alone. Even the fashion from 2000 would still fit in with 2009 and nobody would stare are you weirdly, but imagine seeing someone wearing fashion from 1990 in 1999, which was still heavily 80's. You would probably be seen as unhip. Yep, I generally agree. The only true aspect of 1990 which you could argue is mostly disassociated with the 1980s, is the house music that was popular at the time. With the possible exception of 1989, there's no way songs such as "Ice Ice Baby", "U Can't Touch This" and "Sucker DJ" could have been released any earlier.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 27, 2017 22:03:08 GMT 10
1989/1990 is quite drastically different to 1999/2000. The former seems retro and like another world as Rainbow said, however 1999/2000 just looks very dated. (Although recently it's starting to be a bit different, for example I was looking at a video from 2000 and just judging on the cars alone it really could have been the 80s - with just a few modern ones aswell)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 4:04:19 GMT 10
The 1990s? So last century, my dears! 
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Post by Telso on Sept 22, 2018 9:39:01 GMT 10
I still find the 1990s very modern honestly. Maybe because I'm very into history in general and "ancient" to me means something very different to what people here apparently think. It would honestly feel weird to call a period where modern technology, mass media, mass consumption, tele-communication and social progress were already the norm "not modern" just because of some dated fashion, music, technology and aesthetics.
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Post by Telso on Sept 22, 2018 9:46:01 GMT 10
There's no way songs such as "Ice Ice Baby", "U Can't Touch This" and "Sucker DJ" could have been released any earlier. Huh, why? Sampling was already pretty common in the late 80s and their rapping style isn't really different to what was done before. I don't really see what makes those songs stylistically different to what Run-D.M.C. was doing in 1986 with "Tricky" for example. Not to mention "Ice, Ice Baby" and "U Can't Touch This" both sample the entire untouched production of songs from the early 80s.
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Post by al on Sept 22, 2018 10:27:48 GMT 10
I definitely agree about the early 90's seeming far more dated than the late 90's. I remember when I used to watch 90's sitcoms circa 2004, my favorites were Full House and Step by Step, I would obsessively figure out year what year each episode came out, and test myself by the clothing. Running from 1991 to 1998, Step by Step is really a great display of 90's fashion. What has essentially happened is that we have trends come and go, but the overall look changes much more subtly. This has been the most profitable strategy for the garment industry, as they can still rely on sales of hot items, but they don't have to drastically change their patterns every few years. I imagine it's similar for the auto industry, especially with such high r&d costs and stringent safety requirements. The mid 90's really do serve as an excellent buffer to see this transition unfold. Rather than an intermediate style between the 80's esque and Y2K looks, we saw more of a mixture of the two coexisting, before the latter eventually won over. Now the real question: What Earth-shattering event could have occured in 1994 to warrant such a shift?  
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 10:32:45 GMT 10
I definitely agree about the early 90's seeming far more dated than the late 90's. I remember when I used to watch 90's sitcoms circa 2004, my favorites were Full House and Step by Step, I would obsessively figure out year what year each episode came out, and test myself by the clothing. Running from 1991 to 1998, Step by Step is really a great display of 90's fashion. What has essentially happened is that we have trends come and go, but the overall look changes much more subtly. This has been the most profitable strategy for the garment industry, as they can still rely on sales of hot items, but they don't have to drastically change their patterns every few years. I imagine it's similar for the auto industry, especially with such high r&d costs and stringent safety requirements. The mid 90's really do serve as an excellent buffer to see this transition unfold. Rather than an intermediate style between the 80's esque and Y2K looks, we saw more of a mixture of the two coexisting, before the latter eventually won over. Now the real question: What Earth-shattering event could have occured in 1994 to warrant such a shift? Your birth?
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